#503152 - 04/17/09 02:20 PM
Re: Fly rod and Centerpin????
[Re: schoenweiss]
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The Chosen One
Registered: 02/09/00
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No clue, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that part of the reason for the really long rod is on how the action of the rod helps with the cast. Those centerpinners use a really funky cast that seems to me is more rod-oriented-assited then anything else.
That's my guess today, and I'm sticking too it!
Ok, I'm sure one of the real experts will chime in on how stupid of a guess that is and tell you why a shorter fly rod will or won't work.
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#503215 - 04/17/09 04:44 PM
Re: Fly rod and Centerpin????
[Re: dewbie]
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River Nutrients
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I'd just hang a spinning reel on that fly rod.........over the years, 40+, I've caught everything from trout, to silver/king jacks, a few summer run steelhead and a few silvers........fun, fun, fun..........
I agree with Parker, long rods "help" with the casting...when using a "centerpin"......my fishing pardner has a centerpin and a 2 piece 13" Loomis rod......works good for him....
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#503226 - 04/17/09 05:08 PM
Re: Fly rod and Centerpin????
[Re: steeliefreak]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/07/99
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Loc: Yelmish
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anyone who fishes the kalama a lot knows there's an old timer who fishes with a keen kaster(flat mounted center pin reel) on a rod between 8 and 9 feet long. he drift fishes as well as using bobbers with it, seems to do alright.
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#503228 - 04/17/09 05:15 PM
Re: Fly rod and Centerpin????
[Re: Chum Man]
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
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Loc: West Duvall
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The rod length will not hurt you all that much but the handle configuration will. As steelie freak pointed out centre pin rods have quite long butt sections .The long butt is a plus when palming the reel while fighting a fish. Those who fish the Canadian style centre pin also use that long butt to apply extra force when casting.
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#503297 - 04/17/09 08:48 PM
Re: Fly rod and Centerpin????
[Re: Dave Vedder]
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Alevin
Registered: 12/26/08
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They will work allright. Not the ideal handle config. but in a pinch it will do. I like the long fore grip and about a six inch rear cork. Casting is not an issue at all for small water I have and 1143 tied up for my pin.
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#503312 - 04/17/09 09:25 PM
Re: Fly rod and Centerpin????
[Re: schoenweiss]
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Parr
Registered: 11/30/08
Posts: 49
Loc: The rez.
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Have a question, maybe dumb, but....
Has anyone ever used a pinner, no? Any thoughts or experiences from you pinners would be appreciated. its jonas, about time.. pinners ? always good, no matter how you roll them
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#503372 - 04/18/09 01:11 AM
Re: Fly rod and Centerpin????
[Re: schoenweiss]
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Spawner
Registered: 03/02/08
Posts: 777
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Thanks for the input fellas. Sounds like I should just get a centerpin rod to centerpin fish, makes sense. Good choice for all the reasons mentioned above. The longer rod will help mend the line better on the long drifts.
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#503382 - 04/18/09 04:29 AM
Re: Fly rod and Centerpin????
[Re: SRoffe]
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Ranger Danger
Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 3076
Loc: AK
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The up sides of the centre pin system are two fold. One, the drag free drift ability of the reel. And two, the line management capability of the long rod. Even with those two factors working at their maximum capability, the centre pin system, in my opinion, is still putting the user at a bit of a disadvantage over other options for casting, retrieving, and line/gear management. Take one of those away, such as rod length, and you are even farther into the hole.
That having been said, style is usually a factor and catching a fish in spite of odds stacked in the opposite direction, can be very rewarding and certainly bears merit for those in search of such an experience.
You can fish a fly on a spinning rig, you can fish drift gear on a fly rig, and you can certainly use a centre pin reel on any number of rods. However, on a macro level, matching your gear to your method based on generally accepted norms and in some cases refined data, is usually the best and most efficient way to go. On a finer level, there are those that could make strong arguments on many finer points within a given discipline, and such a proposition, to them, would seem a bit ludicrous. Oil and water so to speak.
Personally, the path is but part of the reward, the end result another. Lots of other variables along the way.
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#503619 - 04/20/09 10:37 AM
Re: Fly rod and Centerpin????
[Re: ColeyG]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 05/31/02
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up here we use shorter rods with center pins while fishing the smaller creeks. Lots of guys use 9' 8wt and 10' 9wt fly rod blanks to make these rods. Custom done handles and guides that are not chrome plated snakes are used. If your fly rods are factory built with an extension butt, you should change the guides has the chrome snakes get line grooves very quickly when used a few days.
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