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#529095 - 08/16/09 04:30 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov *** [Re: Banned User]
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Thanks k k.

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#529096 - 08/16/09 04:33 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: blue water pro]
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You bet bwp.

There are also some resources available locally, where you can ask specific case related questions if you need to.
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#529110 - 08/16/09 06:22 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: Banned User]
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KK, I'm thinking you just can't afford insurance, or won't spend the money, and now want someone else to pick up as much of your bills as possible.
So you trot around singing the praises of a system that you want for your own selfish reasons, but present it as "a boon to mankind".
I get it that small business' has a helluva time providing health insurance for their employees.
And yes, I understand risk pools. I was never under any kind of impression that the "program" was free to all.....some, but not all. The "some" may be (likely ARE) many. Many free participants.....want to bet? Many free, broke, badly needing medical attention, participants. Risk pools are made up of normal, not needy, participants. Let me say that one more time.....Risk pools are made up of normal, NOT NEEDY, participants.

And just a tip....I am not your student, kid, or even friend, so don't bother with the "class" questions, you little creep. This also is not your site, or even your thread, so your words are just that.... your words.
If my questions and comments make you uncomfortable to the point that you cannot clearly respond, whose problem is that?

You're kinda like the dizzy dope with metal all over/in his/her face.....so much so, that you can't see the person through the mine. I've blown off the persona you've projected for some time, giving you a chance to "come around".......waste of time on my part. While you are without a doubt a good source for information that falls into the little world where you preside, beyond that....pathetic.

I ain't going away....you deserve me. smile rofl wink
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#529115 - 08/16/09 06:43 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: Slab Happy]
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Originally Posted By: Slab Happy
KK, I'm thinking you just can't afford insurance, or won't spend the money, and now want someone else to pick up as much of your bills as possible.
So you trot around singing the praises of a system that you want for your own selfish reasons, but present it as "a boon to mankind".


Just one more example of where you're just flat out dead wrong............... rofl

Outstanding average of 1.000 though.............. thumbs

Originally Posted By: slab
I'm thinking


Ya almost had me goin' for a sec there....................... grin
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#529125 - 08/16/09 06:53 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: Slab Happy]
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Originally Posted By: Slab Happy
Todd, perhaps you missed the part about financing the socialized version with the profits from the private version.......How is that competition?

A bit like you and I going fishing, but you only get as many hooks as I am willing to give you.


The way it will be "financing the socialized version with the profits from the private version" is just this: The reason it will be financed with the private version's profit is because those paying the ridiculously exorbiant prices the private version charges won't be paying it anymore...

It's the most pure definition of "competition"...you're going to pay for it, and you pay who gives you the best deal...if the private version doesn't give you a good deal, then you don't give them your money...and they lose profits.

It's called "adapt or die"...which might be the most apt three word definition for the mythical "free market" than any other...

Fish on...

Todd

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#529135 - 08/16/09 07:17 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: Big Stick]
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What I'd like to know is if the dems are so aggresive to get this whole health care bill passed, are they then going to make the government give up there silver lined health care to go with the plan they say is best for all americans?

Maybe they are in a class far beyond the civilians who are schediled to pay for it.
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#529137 - 08/16/09 07:24 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: kevin lund]
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Registered: 06/18/09
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Loc: Paradise,AK.
Anyone who fancies themself as being "aggresive" and chastising those who are "schediled",is in dire straits on more than one level...despite the repugnance of the government giving up "there" benefits.

Which is why Lion's still eat their young(and rightfully so).
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#529278 - 08/16/09 10:02 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: Todd]
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Todd, it boils down to this. You think it's going to be a good deal. I don't. I'm convinced that I and most average working stiffs who pay for medical/dental insurance presently will be paying more, not less for the same coverage. I don't see how it can be otherwise. if the "new plan" picks up the indigents.

Have you thought about how long you will wait for an appointment with the sudden influx of new patients? Could truly be an "adapt or die" situation.

Before KK jumps on the moral highground to play King of the Hill, I'm not rejecting the idea of caring for the poor (never have...despite the KK version), but I have huge doubts that this "goodie" is going to be anything at all like it's being pumped up to be.

As far as thinking goes, KK.....you really should give it go sometime. I don't recall an original thought from you......just parroting what you read is not thinking.....do you suppose I read or heard somewhere the idea of taking profits from the private side to pay for services on the public side? I have no idea whether or not that is the plan, but it seems to me that it might be, based on Odudes statements. If you had gleened that from his gab, I didn't hear you mention it. Why? It wasn't printed somewhere? Or you were just waiting for the right moment? Timing is everything, right? rolleyes
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#529290 - 08/16/09 10:19 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: Slab Happy]
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KK is THE epitome of a plagiarizing brainless lapdog.

Pretty damned funny.
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#529620 - 08/17/09 06:26 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: Big Stick]
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Originally Posted By: Big Stick
KK is THE epitome of a plagiarizing brainless lapdog.

Pretty damned funny.


This must have been the straw that broke the Sticks back.....

I bet if BS was a heavy contributor (other than his brutal honesty) to this board he'd still be here .

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#529622 - 08/17/09 06:33 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: Magicfly]
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big stick talks kinda funny....but he makes me laugh

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#529629 - 08/17/09 06:43 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: dewbie]
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Originally Posted By: dewbie
big stick talks kinda funny....but he makes me laugh


So do you...... wink
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#529633 - 08/17/09 06:55 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: RowVsWade]
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smile if he talks like he writes, I bet he hears a whole lot of, "Huh??" Colorful doesn't even scratch the surface of his ability with words. Like him or not, his prowess is stunning, IMO.
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#529684 - 08/17/09 08:59 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: Vic]
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http://blog.mlive.com/cns/2008/03/medicaid_fraud_victimizes_publ.html

http://www.khou.com/news/local/stories/k...t.90ca0b38.html

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-57614529.html

About 100 more articles

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...mp;oq=&aqi=


I didnt find the recent news item regarding a high school dropout, who scammed the system for more than 1 million dollars, setting a new record in fraud. They apparently have a tendency to pay without verifying the information.

This is unlike Cash for clunkers, who are way behind in making payments to dealers. Some dealers are considering dumping the program.

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#529685 - 08/17/09 09:00 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: Fast and Furious]
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Any accuracy to the statement that medicare is going to be broke in about eight years?

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#529686 - 08/17/09 09:03 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: Fast and Furious]
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Registered: 10/09/07
Posts: 749
Loc: oly
when I'm 64

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#529690 - 08/17/09 09:13 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: chasbo]
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Is that a Beatles song?

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#529714 - 08/17/09 10:15 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: blue water pro]
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Yep.

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#529761 - 08/18/09 08:13 AM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: Salmo g.]
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Registered: 10/09/07
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Loc: oly
Well the flag the fishy stuff site is gone now . can't wait for the next one

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