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#530689 - 08/21/09 12:34 AM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: ]
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Maybe, just maybe President Obama and Co. haven't done a very good job of laying out the program. Maybe they need to actually explain what it is that they are looking to do instead of always talking in general terms and instead get down to the "nuts and bolts" of the program. Maybe they should explain how they intend to pay for all of this instead of just saying its "deficit neutral". Its a little tough to swallow that type of pitch when the CBO says it isn't gonna be deficit neutral. If the MSNBC crowd isn't buying whole heartedly then there is a problem with the message.

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#530692 - 08/21/09 12:41 AM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: ]
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And all that had to do with what? Was any of those subjects even mentioned or alluded to in the past how many posts?

That sounded like a robotic, aimless answer. It attended nothing.

Reminds me of an ancient Mesopotamian city........Babylon (phonetically speaking).
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#530706 - 08/21/09 12:57 AM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: ]
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#530791 - 08/21/09 01:34 PM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: ]
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Eugene Robinson says the left isn't very passionate about health care either. smile

Eugene Robinson Column

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#530908 - 08/21/09 09:07 PM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: ]
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I actually thinks this speaks highly of some of the Dems.....somebody's thinking, and that's good.
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#530912 - 08/21/09 09:15 PM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: ParaLeaks]
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What happens when everybody wants to start buyin' that $350 policy in Alabama though Hank? How long do ya figure it's gonna stay $350?

Medicare and Social Security both started out much differently than they are today. Just because a public option might not be included in this bill doesn't mean that it's never gonna happen.
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#530924 - 08/21/09 10:19 PM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: ]
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As a supposed 'free market capitalist'... you must surely know the basic principles of free market capitalism.

When DEMAND goes up... so do prices.

Name me one instance where a company said "ya know... business is boomin' so let's lower our prices." doh
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#530927 - 08/21/09 10:32 PM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: 4Salt]
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How come you get that when it comes to the private plan, but none of you guys can figure that out regarding the public option?

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#530929 - 08/21/09 10:34 PM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: Vic]
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Because a public plan would be NON-PROFIT Vic.
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#530932 - 08/21/09 10:42 PM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: 4Salt]
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Yeah forgot,, liberal mind here. More people going to the same amount of doctors.... More demand same amount of supply. Oh yeah that is right we are gonna tell doctors what they can make and hope that the best and brightest amongst us are kind souls who want to help people more than they want to be successful and prosperous.

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#530934 - 08/21/09 10:50 PM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: Vic]
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WHY would more people suddenly be going to the doctors Vic? huh

The same amount of people will still be gettin' sick at the same rate that they do now. The only difference will be that they won't have to burden an already overcrowded emergency room or worry about goin' bankrupt if they do get sick.

The 'rationing' argument is about as low-brow as the Death Panels or coverage for illegal immigrants. No wonder it works so well on 'conservatives'. cowboy
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#530943 - 08/22/09 12:02 AM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: 4Salt]
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Originally Posted By: 4Salt
Because a public plan would be NON-PROFIT Vic.


rofl

if that isn't the understatement of the year...

rofl

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#531227 - 08/24/09 08:54 AM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: ]
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If I had a company that was just geting by and I was forced to pay for the public option I would adjust my employees wages to pay for it.
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#531354 - 08/24/09 07:54 PM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: ]
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Gas wars Hank?

Yer kiddin'... right? huh


When the DEMAND for gasoline goes up... like they say it does every Summer... the prices ALWAYS go UP. Retailers compete with each other a little bit as to how much it goes up... but the increase is inevitable.

So tell me again how increased demand on a finite supply (affordable insurance policies) is gonna lower prices? doh
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#531469 - 08/25/09 08:36 AM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Kanektok Kid
rofl

But that isn't going to happen now, is it Jerry ?

rofl



What "isn't going to happen"?
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#531485 - 08/25/09 11:06 AM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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#531892 - 08/26/09 01:04 PM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Kanektok Kid
Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
If I had a company that was just geting by and I was forced to pay for the public option I would adjust my employees wages to pay for it.


That isn't going to happen Jerry............................... grin .....................you're not starting a business, are you ?

I mean, of all the hypotheticals you have engaged in during this 'debate' (and they have been legion, have they not ? ), that one strains credulity more than the others, and that is saying something.


I love all the hypotheticals here, especially ones regarding running a business, from someone who doesn't.




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I limted the other day on nice fat Coho, did ya see that............................. thumbs






Most every program talked about has a hypothetical timeline and cost so it would appear that I'm not the only one talking about "hypotheticals".
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#532589 - 08/28/09 08:22 PM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Kanektok Kid
"It has been suggested that the government could use voter registration to determine a person's political affiliation, prompting fears that GOP voters might be discriminated against for medical treatment in a Democrat-imposed health care rationing system. Does this possibility concern you?"


Actual question from GOP 'Health Care Survey' and fundraiser letter sent out. Straight from the RNC, signed by Michael Steele himself.

Should put to bed any notions that one may harbor regarding two things.
The intelligence of the average GOP 'donor', and the nature of the GOP when it comes to Health Care.

As an institution, the GOP has no decency and no shame.
None.



Jeebus H. Kee-rist...the only thing more shameful than Steele saying something like that is that there are folks out there...and right here on this BB...who would actually believe it.

Shameless, indeed.

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#532642 - 08/28/09 09:57 PM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: ]
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Just can't let it die, can you KK? Chiming in almost two days after the last post. rolleyes

Were you an only child? Or just the youngest?
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#532643 - 08/28/09 10:08 PM Re: Co-ops Maybe we have something here [Re: ParaLeaks]
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I suspect that as long as people like Palin and Steele keep talking about the death panels and anti-Republican healthcare discrimination, then there will always be fertile ground for this thread to continue to grow...

Fish on...

Todd
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