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#533177 - 08/31/09 04:57 PM firearms refresher
larryb Offline
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FIREARMS REFRESHER COURSE














1. "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."


~Thomas Jeffer son









2. Those who trade liberty for security have neither. ~John Adams









3. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.



4. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.







5. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.





6. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.







7. You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.



8. Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.







9. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.



10. Assault is a behavior, not a device.



11. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.







12. The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights Reserved.





13. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.



14. What part of 'shall not be infringed' do you NOT understand?





15. Guns have only two enemies; rust and politicians.









16. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.





17. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.











IF YOU AGREE, PASS THIS 'REFRESHER' ON TO TEN FREE CITIZENS.


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#533178 - 08/31/09 04:59 PM Re: firearms refresher [Re: larryb]
The Moderator Offline
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Huh. I thought this was a thread about Seastuck. That was disappointing. laugh
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#533306 - 09/01/09 02:28 AM Re: firearms refresher [Re: larryb]
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Simplistic slogans. Some of them made sense back in the time of Jefferson and Adams when a muzzle loader was high tech and a citizen could have equal arms as military personnel. Does anyone think arms legal for a citizen to posses today would stand up against modern military weaponry? I'm not in favor of more gun laws, but to imply that owning legal arms, semi-autos with unlimited clips, in this day and age is somehow going to protect us from tyranny is delusional.

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#533307 - 09/01/09 02:39 AM Re: firearms refresher [Re: Keta]
Irie Offline
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Originally Posted By: Keta
Simplistic slogans. Some of them made sense back in the time of Jefferson and Adams when a muzzle loader was high tech and a citizen could have equal arms as military personnel. Does anyone think arms legal for a citizen to posses today would stand up against modern military weaponry? I'm not in favor of more gun laws, but to imply that owning legal arms, semi-autos with unlimited clips, in this day and age is somehow going to protect us from tyranny is delusional.


rofl Whaddya mean? When the U.N. Commies parachute into their local football field, RvW & Hankster are going to load up thei pickup with .30-06 deer rifles, Spam, Leah Thompson & Jennifer Grey and head up into the hills to single handedly fight off the Reds with a rifle and good 'ole fashioned Red Neck tenacity. Then they'll get online afterward and tell us all how the country oughtta be ran.

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#533350 - 09/01/09 10:32 AM Re: firearms refresher [Re: Irie]
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Somehow I see Irie swallowing a beeper to lead them to our position. He was put up to it by his father the mayor....... grin
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#533361 - 09/01/09 11:15 AM Re: firearms refresher [Re: docspud]
stlhead Offline
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I don't think the enemy will need help finding your position....they know it will be on the far right.
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#533430 - 09/01/09 01:35 PM Re: firearms refresher [Re: Keta]
Marz Offline
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So, basically resistance is futile so why even try? Wow... rolling over like that will result in a sunburned belly.

Militia seems to do a pretty good job in other parts of the world, if it wasn't, we wouldn't still be fighting a war, we would have it all laced up, right?

Tyrants are far more cautious when the possibilities of being met with an AR-15 are at hand. Without guns they just would just be herding sheep.

Not that I am building a bunker but I would rather have guns and not need them then to need them and not have them...

just sayin'....


Edited by Marz (09/01/09 01:36 PM)

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#533437 - 09/01/09 01:51 PM Re: firearms refresher [Re: Marz]
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Well we they could certainly rule out anywhere left of you......not possible......O'wait, that right, your an independent. rofl
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#533442 - 09/01/09 02:13 PM Re: firearms refresher [Re: docspud]
stlhead Offline
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"Militia seems to do a pretty good job in other parts of the world"

Who's the militia in Mexico?

"Well we they could certainly rule out anywhere left of you......not possible......O'wait, that right, your an independent."

Yeah I tend to think for myself and came to the conclusion a long time ago that the Republican party has never practiced what it preaches and it's steadfast followers are members of a cult.
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#533445 - 09/01/09 02:21 PM Re: firearms refresher [Re: stlhead]
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Originally Posted By: stlhead
"Militia seems to do a pretty good job in other parts of the world"

Who's the militia in Mexico?


All them drug dealers that had the whole country afraid to travel there a few months ago.

Seems to work better than Berkeley-esque protesting.

Is it being implied that I am a republican because I am pro-gun?

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#533447 - 09/01/09 02:37 PM Re: firearms refresher [Re: Marz]
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Both parties are jokes in this country. Each are to attached to their base. The wackos. But what is even more of a joke is listening to people like you claim to be in the main stream. You and O'rielly should get together, you two free thinking independents. One from each side. grin
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#533459 - 09/01/09 03:09 PM Re: firearms refresher [Re: docspud]
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I must be in the mainstream right now as the majority voted the way I did and polls show the majority thinking like I do. I highly doubt Bill O could say the same.

Marz, so is the solution to arm the citizens even more than the heavily armed drug cartels or maintain the status quo?
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#533514 - 09/01/09 05:13 PM Re: firearms refresher [Re: stlhead]
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"All them drug dealers that had the whole country afraid to travel there a few months ago."

I'm not sure if you really know everybody in the 'whole country' that were afraid to travel but the people I know in Mexico weren't afraid to travel.
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#533516 - 09/01/09 05:18 PM Re: firearms refresher [Re: stlhead]
Marz Offline
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Bearing arms is not a solution as much as it is exercising your rights and retaining a certain amount of unpredictability. Why not understand how to use a firearm and champion those that are responsible gun owners?

Why is it when anyone starts up with pro-gun talk it is automatically assumed they are a RWWJ? That is pretty strange considering that sweeping judgments are so often frowned upon on other topics.

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#533519 - 09/01/09 05:21 PM Re: firearms refresher [Re: Chuck E]
Marz Offline
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Originally Posted By: Chuck E
"All them drug dealers that had the whole country afraid to travel there a few months ago."

I'm not sure if you really know everybody in the 'whole country' that were afraid to travel but the people I know in Mexico weren't afraid to travel.


I know people that vacationed there at that time, point missed. I guess I took too many liberties with that statement....

Guerrilla warfare in 3rd world nations is not easily exterminated under the current world conditions as one may assume is possible with modern warfare.

Is that better?


Edited by Marz (09/01/09 05:21 PM)

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#533526 - 09/01/09 05:37 PM Re: firearms refresher [Re: Marz]
Jerry Garcia Offline



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Originally Posted By: Marz
Originally Posted By: stlhead
"Militia seems to do a pretty good job in other parts of the world"

Who's the militia in Mexico?


All them drug dealers that had the whole country afraid to travel there a few months ago.

Seems to work better than Berkeley-esque protesting.

Is it being implied that I am a republican because I am pro-gun?



I think it was the dreaded swine flu that keep people from going to Mexico.
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#533534 - 09/01/09 05:47 PM Re: firearms refresher [Re: Jerry Garcia]
Marz Offline
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
Originally Posted By: Marz
Originally Posted By: stlhead
"Militia seems to do a pretty good job in other parts of the world"

Who's the militia in Mexico?


All them drug dealers that had the whole country afraid to travel there a few months ago.

Seems to work better than Berkeley-esque protesting.

Is it being implied that I am a republican because I am pro-gun?



I think it was the dreaded swine flu that keep people from going to Mexico.


http://boston.com/bigpicture/2009/03/mexicos_drug_war.html

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#533541 - 09/01/09 05:54 PM Re: firearms refresher [Re: Marz]
stlhead Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6830
Originally Posted By: Marz
Bearing arms is not a solution as much as it is exercising your rights and retaining a certain amount of unpredictability. Why not understand how to use a firearm and champion those that are responsible gun owners?

Why is it when anyone starts up with pro-gun talk it is automatically assumed they are a RWWJ? That is pretty strange considering that sweeping judgments are so often frowned upon on other topics.




Where did I assume you were republican or post anything anti gun? It's something I repeatedly point out. It's those whom I label the gun nuts who post something pro firearms, get questioned and instantly assume the questioner is a filthy rotten anti gun liberal. To gun nuts any questioning of their arguments means you are "one of them". There are sane gun owners and then there are gun nuts.
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#533543 - 09/01/09 06:01 PM Re: firearms refresher [Re: Marz]
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Originally Posted By: Marz
Why not understand how to use a firearm and champion those that are responsible gun owners?
And that's where we as a nation miserably fail, IMHO.
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#533572 - 09/01/09 06:28 PM Re: firearms refresher [Re: stlhead]
Marz Offline
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Loc: Edmonds, WA
Originally Posted By: stlhead
Originally Posted By: Marz
Bearing arms is not a solution as much as it is exercising your rights and retaining a certain amount of unpredictability. Why not understand how to use a firearm and champion those that are responsible gun owners?

Why is it when anyone starts up with pro-gun talk it is automatically assumed they are a RWWJ? That is pretty strange considering that sweeping judgments are so often frowned upon on other topics.




Where did I assume you were republican or post anything anti gun? It's something I repeatedly point out. It's those whom I label the gun nuts who post something pro firearms, get questioned and instantly assume the questioner is a filthy rotten anti gun liberal. To gun nuts any questioning of their arguments means you are "one of them". There are sane gun owners and then there are gun nuts.


I was not referring to you in that part but I was referring more to other posts in this thread. I was making an open statement after addressing you but it gets kinda confusing since there is the "RE:" up there.

I agree with you on the gun nuts thing.

I feel someone has to stand up for the sane, liberal, gun owners. Not all non koolaide drinking liberals sing kumbya, some have "This machine destroys facists" etched into the stock of their wepon.


Edited by Marz (09/01/09 06:37 PM)

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