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#542507 - 10/02/09 01:46 AM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: boater]
Starfish Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 02/19/04
Posts: 283
Loc: Richland, WA
Zealotry and extremism for any cause, however righteous, makes me wary. I prefer a more subtle approach myself. I'm extremely proud to be the secretary of our local CCA chapter and have emceed our last two very successful banquets. I encourage my friends to join CCA and occasionally talk about it on the boat. Those who join tend to get invited back more often than those who don't. If somebody has a specific issue or principle that prevents their joining that's okay, we can discuss things and agree to disagree. If they choose to support a different conservation group or fishery organization... that's totally okay. If however they're too lazy to join or claim to have too little time free... yet still have enough time and money to go fishing... that's another thing entirely. Their phone doesn't ring.

I am quite confident in saying that things are better this year in WA than they would have been without CCA. We would have lost our fish and wildlife commission almost certainly. We have much more visibility of salmon issues and sportfishing priorities in the legislature now than we ever did before. We have a seat at the table. I intend to use that newfound voice to improve the returns of fish to the Hanford Reach. I owe my kids that.

So, Francis- I completely applaud your enthusiasm. But I don't have a litmus test for letting folks aboard my boat. Life isn't black and white and I don't mind listening to opinions different than mine... sometimes I learn something.

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#542522 - 10/02/09 08:57 AM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: Todd]
grizz1 Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 01/17/07
Posts: 473
Perfect answer Todd.. You don't need to join another organization to prove that you care about the fish.

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#542535 - 10/02/09 10:24 AM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: grizz1]
BrianL Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 409
Loc: Bothell, WA
cost of a CCA membership = $25.
Realizing that you (or your organization) can't do it alone = Priceless!
smile

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#542539 - 10/02/09 10:57 AM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: BrianL]
gilly Offline
Hazmat

Registered: 04/27/04
Posts: 923
Loc: on the river
Doc, I almost had my "free pass" I guess.
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#542543 - 10/02/09 11:12 AM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: gilly]
Neal M Offline
The Enemy

Registered: 12/13/99
Posts: 2785
Loc: Bainbridge Island and Sappho, ...
JFC, this when a long ways in a short amount of time smile Doc is now the spokesperson for CCA. I like it.

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#542550 - 10/02/09 11:31 AM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: Neal M]
The Moderator Offline
The Chosen One

Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 14486
Loc: Tuleville
I'm going in for shoulder surgery on the 15th. 4 week of immobility after that and not being able to touch a fishing rod until at least the SRC.

Working all this and next week.

Doc wins. The fish wins. I paid my $25 to CCA.

GIMME THAT DAMN SEAT, DOC!!!!!!!

laugh
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#542568 - 10/02/09 12:03 PM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: Todd]
Misguided Offline
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Registered: 09/27/08
Posts: 340
Loc: SWWA
Originally Posted By: Todd
Francis, I wouldn't join if it cost $2...it's not the money, and you know damn well it's not.

Fish on...

Todd



I guess Todd won't be stayin @ Docs anymore!!!!
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#542609 - 10/02/09 01:36 PM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: Misguided]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 28170
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Originally Posted By: Misguided
Originally Posted By: Todd
Francis, I wouldn't join if it cost $2...it's not the money, and you know damn well it's not.

Fish on...

Todd



I guess Todd won't be stayin @ Docs anymore!!!!


You never know...but I am feeling a bit bummed about the lack of appreciation for my personal time and money that I spent going to Olympia with Francis to fight for Grays Harbor fish and our sportfisheries there...I hope he remembers that while I'm not fishing with him next week.

Managed to get there all on my own, write testimony, and deliver it fairly effectively...all without being a CCA member.

Strange, but true.

Fish on...

Todd
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#542639 - 10/02/09 03:09 PM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: Todd]
Winterun Offline
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Registered: 11/07/02
Posts: 992
Loc: Tac/Puy
Originally Posted By: Todd
Originally Posted By: Misguided
Originally Posted By: Todd
Francis, I wouldn't join if it cost $2...it's not the money, and you know damn well it's not.

Fish on...

Todd



I guess Todd won't be stayin @ Docs anymore!!!!


You never know...but I am feeling a bit bummed about the lack of appreciation for my personal time and money that I spent going to Olympia with Francis to fight for Grays Harbor fish and our sportfisheries there...I hope he remembers that while I'm not fishing with him next week.

Managed to get there all on my own, write testimony, and deliver it fairly effectively...all without being a CCA member.

Strange, but true.

Fish on...

Todd


Todd,

I'm not bummed, but I got that feeling also.

You know me I'm a quite kind of guy, and usually keep my thoughts to myself. But for me to start my own post in regards to this.

Well I guess I'm free on the 9th next week to go fish somewhere too!

Winterun

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#542641 - 10/02/09 03:16 PM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: Winterun]
The Moderator Offline
The Chosen One

Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 14486
Loc: Tuleville
Originally Posted By: Winterun
Well I guess I'm free on the 9th next week to go fish somewhere too!


Damn, Joe! frown Was looking forward to fishing with you on the 9th. I was even going to bring those Vision hooks you wanted. wink

Crap - *now* how am I gonna get my free Gami Hat and Jacket?????

laugh
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#542644 - 10/02/09 03:23 PM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: The Moderator]
STRIKE ZONE Offline
GOOD LUCK

Registered: 08/09/00
Posts: 12107
Loc: Hobart,Wa U.S.A
WOW.good luck,
STRIKE ZONE

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#542654 - 10/02/09 03:47 PM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: Todd]
Big_Daddy
Unregistered


Originally Posted By: Todd


You never know...but I am feeling a bit bummed about the lack of appreciation for my personal time and money that I spent going to Olympia with Francis to fight for Grays Harbor fish and our sportfisheries there...I hope he remembers that while I'm not fishing with him next week.

Managed to get there all on my own, write testimony, and deliver it fairly effectively...all without being a CCA member.

Strange, but true.

Fish on...

Todd


100% on the money Todd.

All of my testimony and communication dealing with fisheries issues whether in person and /or written word has all come without the assistance of any one organization.

I have no issue with people who want to be apart of CCA or any other group.

Just remember.....there were people fighting long and hard for these issues and laid alot of ground work long before CCA came along.

I hope organizations such as CCA, PSA, NSIA and WSC can take it to the next level. But please don't push aside opinions and feelings of people that have been involved long before CCA was ever mentioned in Washington State.

I just wish "Doc" would have used this "soapbox" to explain his reasoning instead of drawing a line in the sand. He knows that people will listen to his opinions.

I have ALOT of respect for Francis. He knows that VERY WELL.

However I do not agree with this approach.

Just my opinion.


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#542657 - 10/02/09 04:10 PM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: The Moderator]
Winterun Offline
Spawner

Registered: 11/07/02
Posts: 992
Loc: Tac/Puy
Originally Posted By: parker
Originally Posted By: Winterun
Well I guess I'm free on the 9th next week to go fish somewhere too!


Damn, Joe! frown Was looking forward to fishing with you on the 9th. I was even going to bring those Vision hooks you wanted. wink

Crap - *now* how am I gonna get my free Gami Hat and Jacket?????

laugh


Dang it Parker after reading through all these pages and come to find out you were going too!!! With all the hoopla and goings on crap.... looks like I'm going to miss fishing with you too. I started a thread of my own, can you believe that. Look for the CCA Vendor thread, just some of my ramblings.....

Last year I was a last minute substitution, and felt bad I didn't bring any swag with me. But.... it was a trip I'll will always remember! I've said it before and I'll say it again, Thanks Doc!!! I wish you tight lines!!!

Parker give those Visions to Boater, I don't think he'll hurt himself with them!!! Sorry Boater just a look, not a jab or anything.

Winterun

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#542666 - 10/02/09 04:38 PM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: Winterun]
FishNg1 Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 1609
Loc: Gig Harbor, WA , USA
Crap, Joe.....all that work I had to do to get you back on board!

Steve
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#542670 - 10/02/09 04:58 PM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: FishNg1]
Winterun Offline
Spawner

Registered: 11/07/02
Posts: 992
Loc: Tac/Puy
Originally Posted By: FishNg1
Crap, Joe.....all that work I had to do to get you back on board!

Steve

No Worries Steve!

Your establishment is still my Top 5 places to eat in Western Washington!!!

Winterun!

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#542695 - 10/02/09 05:38 PM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: ]
dcrzfitter Offline
Spawner

Registered: 04/10/99
Posts: 913
Loc: Tenino, wa U.S.A.
Originally Posted By: AuntyM
I don't agree. WDFW can't grow their salaries and staff in the current economic/legislative climate unless they get it from sportfishing. They know they won't be getting it from any other source.

The times are changing and it's about damned time. That's the way things happened in Florida and Texas too. Could be why the commercial apologists are trying to make such a ruckus.

laugh


WDFW won't need as much staff when sport fishing is all but gone. just a thought. That and when hunting is wiped out from reintroduction of predators that clean everything out like the other states.

Kris

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#542710 - 10/02/09 05:52 PM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: dcrzfitter]
EnglishPete Offline
The Duke of Death

Registered: 03/13/09
Posts: 251
Loc: Upyerarseland
I just want it stated for the record that I am not Boater.
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#542713 - 10/02/09 06:01 PM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: EnglishPete]
boater Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 07/01/09
Posts: 1760
Loc: common sense ave.
Originally Posted By: EnglishPete
I just want it stated for the record that I am not Boater.


could you hold the boater comments until i`m done listening to this ?, thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFd4vEbVB2Y&feature=related

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#542714 - 10/02/09 06:03 PM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: EnglishPete]
Illahee Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3781
Wow some folks sure have a mighty high opinion of themselves.
I financially support three fish advocacy groups, and have now for almost ten years.
One of the things I've learned is, if you want to get anything meaningful accomplished when politicians are concerned, you need a coalition and consensus of other like minded groups.

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#542717 - 10/02/09 06:07 PM Re: Team eyeFISH = Team CCA [Re: Illahee]
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MPD

Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 2565
Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
Originally Posted By: freespool

One of the things I've learned is, if you want to get anything meaningful accomplished when politicians are concerned, you need MONEY, LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY.


fixed. my opinion of our elected officials is very low, but if you can get bill gates involved, you'd be surprised how much he'd get accomplished all by himself.
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