I read Bill Herzog's spoon fishing book and I'm pretty sure he explains the reasoning for the different shaped spoons on the market today. Unfortunately it was a library copy and it has been a while. I don't have it to readily reference anymore so could somebody quickly summarize the general differences, pros and cons of the three mainstream spoon blanks; steelee (teardrop), Dare Devil, & Little Cleo.

Thanks,

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It is all in Bill's book. They are still for sale. Cost is less than 7 spoons.

Yeah I know they are still for sale, but you are assuming I have both the time to run down to the store, and money to buy a new book. I have diapers to buy and lost spoons to replace. With all due respect, I'm sure the answers to many of the questions on this board are available in some publication somewhere.

I guess I'll just get on the waiting list for the book at the library.
Not knowing in making my brain itch.

$12.78 won't even get you to the library and back, yet alone pay for all those books you forgot to return

http://www.amazon.com/Spoon-Fishing-Steelhead-Bill-Herzog/dp/1878175300

Yeah, I didn't figure out the shipping

Yeah, I have more then that in late fees. $12.78 is at least 40 diapers. I guess broke people shouldn't fish or ask questions.

Stee-Lee-Good in medium to fast water, 4-8 feet deep. Good for tailouts, riffle breaks and low water. Reason being they don't drop as fast...
DareDevils- Good in deep water/or very fast water.
And finally your Classic style spoon and the most effective.
Little Cleos/Rvrfshr/B.C. Steels, etc. Water 5-12 feet deep, moderate to fast water and good in mid drift pools, flats and even tailouts...

Diapers aren't as important as spoons, so get on it...

hanks for the clarification, I had recalled something similar. The reason I'm asking is a lot of guys have been getting fish on the lower section of my local river using 1/2oz steelees. There are no tailouts in this water, so this kind of flies on the face of conventional wisdom. Instead of just rushing out to the tackle store and buying some teardrop spoons I want to understand the intricacies amongst the different shapes as I have some rvrfshr's and daredevil styles spoons already. I guess it is a confidence thing.

How deep/What kind of water is it? Classic style spoons like Rvrfshrs are a good all around spoon choice. I use those 98.8 percent of the time. I really only bust out the Stee-Lees a few times a year for tailouts and low water situations.

Teardrops are king, in the right situation. Good on Rossiman for throwing a bone.

The wider the spoon the more water it deflects thus rising to the surface in current.

If your buds are catching them on steelie's I guess they are casting and retrieving in frog water. Any current and they would pop to the surface pretty quickly hence the "tailout" references above.

Still worth buying the book though. If for no other reason then the pictures of Toads page after page after page!

another way of looking at buying the zogbook is the amount of gas one spends to go fishing. even local fishing which i consider to be a hour or less. gas alone will run more in a round trip than the book.

Thanks for the info. The book is on my Christmas list, plus I'll write a letter to Santa Claus.

I found out that the guys were catching fish in shallow water and were casting, drifting from 11-1, then slowly retrieving. The water I'm fishing is a bar on a compound corner. There is fast water across and slow water near, and frog water directly below.

I went out last night with my daughter and tossed all three styles. The water seemed too slow for the daredevil style. The 1/2oz steelee has really good thumb and I was hitting bottom the last 1/3 of the drift. The rvrfshr 2/5oz might have been baby bear's porridge. I didn't spend as much time as I wanted with it, my little girl decided to go after some leaves in the river, got wet, so I took her home before she got cold.

Stickfisher, if you can access the spot, try standing on the cut bank or corner side, casting into the softer water on the bar side, then allow the spoon to swing into the deeper faster water

I just ordered that book and 4 others, so if you don't get it let me know.

I will have read by then.

Can't remember what Zog said, but.......Someone else mentioned that the wider the spoon, the faster they rise. This is true, but due to the same physics, the wider the spoon, the less pull from the current they need to wobble. Thus, a teardrop spoon will work a lot better when cast slightly upstream and allowed to drift down along side you with minimal tension on the line. It's a lot like drift fishing. I took my biggest summer steelhead this way in a run we had pounded for an hour with other lures. A Little Cleo will be dead in this situation. The longer-shaped spoons are better for swinging in faster, deeper water.

The run you describe above sounds like a great Stee-Lee run.......

Thanks guys. I'll try a few things out tonight. I'm lucky enough to live 5 minutes from the river and about 9 minutes from the spot I like to fish.

Switch over to cloth diapers and have the ole lady wash them by hand while your out tossin spoons and putting food on the table like a good father would for his family.Good luck,
SZ

That's funny. We actually do use cloth diapers. Talk about an upfront investment. Them things ain't cheap!

WTF gave you an idea like that?

Fish on...

Todd

How about the Gibbs Koho? What style would this be?