I was reading that the state is trying to develop triploid Dolly Varden hoping that it would be predatory in lakes that have been over run by fish that are predators of trout....anyone else heard similar rumblings??? I fear another problem would just be created by this, but it is intriguing. Any thoughts??

Where did you read this?

Personally I haven't heard anything about triploid Dolly Varden, however, we are using tiger trout for that purpose in some of our high lakes. Tiger trout are a cross between eastern brook and brown trout. We are evaluating them as a replacement for the brown trout program. These trout are pretty intense as far as trout predators goes.

I will post back if I hear anything on the Dolly Varden issue.

stace
WDFW
Region 5
Vancouver, WA

Stacie, is there a listing on where these tiger Trout are located?

umm how big do these trout get?
and if it's a mixbetween a trout and a char why is it a trout?

why not a Tiger Char?

If I said I knew of a lake where there's reputed to be tiger trout, what might I be "plied" with to get me to pass on that knowledge.

I haven't fished the lake either. Just know that there's supposed to be tiger trout in it.

Also, the stocking reports, fry or regular sized trout, don't reveal this data.

Oh wise Zen Chronie, A ? for only you may have the answer oh wise one. With all this cross breeding and such, should we be worried? As isnt this how the Bass fisherman came to exist?

I don't think bass fishermen came to be because of cross-breeding... hmmmm... why do I think the Trout Master is setting me up with this one.

I think bass fishermen came to be because they haven't evolved far enough to become trout fishermen.

One starts with catfish, then progresses to bluegills and bass, and then on to trout. Eventually they also learn the limber rod is the proper way to angle for trout.

Thank you oh wise one. I now have been blessed with more of your wise wisdom.
Now can you explain Micro Brew??????????????????????????????????????

I don't know why they would want such a fish. When I fished in Eastern Wash a few years ago. My buddy caught a 18" dolly and when he cleaned it it had a 6" rainbow in it's stomach. Back in the good old days it was legal to keep them. If all they do is eat, then they will eat everything in the lake including Trout.

We have tigers in our Forlorn Lakes in SW Washington. They are used a lot of the time to prey on stunted fish species. In some lakes they can get up to 30 lbs. I got that info from a hatchery in California that uses them to control stunted fish populations. They seem to do a pretty darn good job at it!

stace

To understand Micro Brew, you have to achieve a higher level of enlightenment, perhaps with a nice porter or IPA. He will be venturing into the desert for a little meditation. Hopefully he will find his destination before dark - those scorpions can be exciting.... No snakes at night though.

The thought of a 30 pound predator in a lake is an interesting thought. It presents a whole lot of new possibilities.

Maybe they can also be used to control perch, bullheads, sunfish and other scrap fish??

Micro brew ever see the movie Deliverance?
Be careful walking alone in the desert.
If you hear Banjo music,walk in a fast pace in the opposite direction

Micro,

Congratulations on achieving "returning adult" status. You have left your humble smolt beginnings behind.

So, if I read your message correctly, are you going fishing this weekend? Lenice and Nunnaly???

I got bit up by something this weekend that I'm still itching about. It didn't seem to be mosquitos as I had too much other area available to where they didn't have to bite thru my socks.

Ron said he got blood poisoning from one of his trips from the bites. I'm thinking the same thing bit me all over my ankles.

Oh.. ticks are bad over there right now. I had a fisherman pull 3 of them out of his hair in front of me one afternoon. Gave me a bad case of the heebie-jeebies.. and I was scratching and checking all over.

Email me and let me know what your weekend plans are. I tried to send you email and private email and you aren't set up for it.

No problem on running from the banjo music, although ZL's post already has me scratching and doing tick checks. BTW, don't forget the belly button, had a friend find one there while he was in a sauna....

Trout Master - Zen Leecher
Get out of hear
I'm keeping my eye on you two.
The Bass is a worthy Fish.
Whats the first fish anyone catches.
Ummm Trout Do you wonder why
I'm Glad I Fish with A stiff rod.
I hate a limp rod Ha! Ha!

Zen,Zen,Zen...

When will you ever experience real fishing??!!??
If you think that a 30 pound fish in a lake is big...you dont know what big is!
Where I live...we have had 40+ pound Rainbows caught and Sturgeon to 1800 pounds.
Close by there has been 70 pound lake trout caught.

I read about Triploid Dolly Varden in an article about Triploid trout last weekend in a fishing "insert" that I picked up in Manson. I wish I had kept the article and brought it home.

Zen. They could be fly bites. Deer flies get real big. I got bit by one up off the S/fork of the Snoqualmie about a week ago It swelled up to about the size of a .50 piece and itched alot. It bit me thru my pants.

Mr "Not Found",

When Gerrards and Sturgeon learn to bite flies I'll be interested.

I'm not all that fond of trolling plugs to catch trout.

Sturgeon would be a different story as I'm not against plunking for them. Actually we're gonna try for them sometime next month as it turns out they're in the same exact spot as I duck hunt.

Bill, will you ever do some real fishing?
I guess I'm gonna put all my fly rods away as we dont have any real"fishing" here!

What is this world coming to when the Zen leecher is being quoted??????? :p

Maybe he thought what I said was profound. I slip every once in a while and say something worthwhile... but don't think I hit my quota of "profound" yet this week.

No one quotes Trout Master. Must be because he's in denial about calling indicators and floats as "bobbers". Shoot..just call them "bobbers".. let it go.. and you'll notice you're attracting a following too.

I watched a special on the Hare Krishna's last night and think I may wear sapphron colored robes. A true Zen Leecher should wear the appropriate clothing. Just a thought.. but do you think the Hare Krishna's created the Gold Ribbed HARE's Ear nymph???

I saw parts of the same show, and I swore I saw a young Zen leecher with no hair and eating bug's with his fellow hari's. Wait no hair? Micro brew ,you are a follower after all

The old Zen Leecher is working towards no hair... fishing with bugs.. and mumbling with his fishing friends...

Micro Brew's still too materialistic to be a member of anyone's following.

Speaking of materialistic, did I tell you I'm buying a new clear intermediate line this Friday and will test it out in BC. Just got rid of my old SCA green intermediate to a fishing friend.

ommmmm.... ommmmmm.... ommmmmm

Also it's hard to sit crosslegged with a pot belly.

I have been using the stillwater clear line for about 3 years now. I like it on my 4wt.
on my 2 wt I have to add a little bit of lead
putty to get it down though. Both cast real well.

Zen ,I have also noticed that Micro brew has lost his sence of humor lately. He is way to serious. I think if he would just relax and do a cuople mintues of Ohmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Ohmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Ohmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. He will feel much better and understand zen.

I noticed your footer. Randy Quaid had an interesting quote on women in the movie Independence Day.

And what was that ?

MB seems to be taking a lot of abuse lately - but don't worry, he can handle it. Especially since he will be spending three days fishing this weekend at various places. Too bad TM won't be doing the same. BTW - I do drink my coffee out of a brown bottle - Red Hook has a double black stout made with Starbucks! Rogue has a mocha porter that isn't too bad. Neither is for the faint of heart that are used to Lite beer.
Gotta try out the STH reel I got last week, sure looks pretty.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM......

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"If you aren't living on the edge, you're taking up too much space." Jim Whittaker

Trout master will be fishing this weekend, only one day as He has domestic problems at home and the woman is moving out.

I can help find a replacement woman more suitable for a fishing type man who needs to join a cult.

She will dance around when you spread the word of fishing. This cult will be called the Hairi Ears.

She will also cook, clean and be obedient to T M.