#652819 - 01/11/11 01:29 AM
Re: Raft vs DB vs Pontoon
[Re: Rotten Chum]
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Registered: 06/24/99
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Loc: Ellensburg, WA
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Currently building a 16 foot pontoon boat...it will be a tank and am looking forward to some floatin fun...pics soon Haven't you been building that for like a year now? I own a pontoon and a raft and have rowed many fiberglass drift boats. As mentioned, no one boat can do it all. Inflatables are more forgiving for both storing, launching, and rocky, low water situations. They lend themselves to fly fishing pretty well and side drifting OK, but a hard boat is pretty tough to beat for pulling plugs, something I don't do and therefore don't own one. The fisher doesn't catch a fish while pulling plugs, the rower does. I suppose the same could be said for the side drifter in a jet sled but that wasn't part of this topic.
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#652905 - 01/11/11 01:30 PM
Re: Raft vs DB vs Pontoon
[Re: SlipperyFoot]
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Spawner
Registered: 08/30/10
Posts: 658
Loc: Grays Harbor
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If you just want to run the plug in front of you down the river while you float then it will work great. If you want to sit and plug plunk, not a good idea. Way too hard to anchor properly in the hole correctly and retrieve the anchor when you are done. A 12-14 foot one might be better for this but I have not tried one that size yet.
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#652914 - 01/11/11 02:16 PM
Re: Raft vs DB vs Pontoon
[Re: fish_4_all]
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 11/01/06
Posts: 1563
Loc: Silverdale Wa
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I have a 13ft Aire super and a 17 ft Willie. I love the Willie for brat fishing and the comfort. Just to nice to bring all the crap along when got three guys in the OP brat fishery. That being said I could probably row circles around the drift boat with the raft.
Tough choice to choose just once.......probably the raft due to being able to do everything the drift boat can and more. Maybe not as comfortable but still can be done.
All that said, I never pull plugs.
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#652940 - 01/11/11 03:46 PM
Re: Raft vs DB vs Pontoon
[Re: rawhide]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 02/25/09
Posts: 190
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I have been looking at the 13 ft aire, nrs and saturns. They all seem to sell with nrs frame packages. The saturns are the cheapest and seem to get good reviews for the price. I would like to be able to take 3 people at a time including the rower and still keep the boat smaller in size. Any recomendations on brand and size? I wouldnt go with a 13ft saturn, a 14ft or 14.5ft is a better option IMHO if you intend to fish 3 guys all the time, especially in low water conditions. I own a 14ft Saturn and 3 guys works great when you get the weight balanced correctly, but with 3rd guy back, if unbalaned the raft can sit ass heavy making it more difficult to track/row and will hang up on rocks more in shallow riffles. Also with my 14ft and 3 guys with small amounts of gear the boat is pretty much full. Cant imagine trying to comfortably fish 3 guys/gear in a shorter/narrower boat. my 2 cents. I cant speak for the other brands of rafts as I have not rowed them before. But I would say that rowing a fully loaded drift boat all day is much easier than a fully loaded raft.
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#653375 - 01/12/11 05:35 PM
Re: Raft vs DB vs Pontoon
[Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 12/24/01
Posts: 1972
Loc: Kingston, WA
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You can't anchor a raft in the same spots as a db (at least not with the same amount of weight).
The drag of the water on the raft is WAY more than the drag of the water on a driftboat.
So, you'll likely need more weight to keep a raft anchored in the same water.
+1 what AP said. There is also the issue of optimum anchor weight range, which varies as much with boat design as with boat type. However, this range will be definitely be greater with a DB than with a raft. Simply adding more weight to hold against drag may not be an effective solution, as it will also increase drag, change weight distribution and also make the anchor more difficult and slower to raise. Not to mention, over anchoring can get you into some serious trouble. I've seen more river boats (of all types) taken by anchors than by sweepers. Lost a few anchors myself in a DB and I can't imagine trying to break one free in a raft.
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#653388 - 01/12/11 06:26 PM
Re: Raft vs DB vs Pontoon
[Re: Driftfishnw]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 08/24/10
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This is a great thread. I am thinking about getting a pontoon for next year.
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#653579 - 01/13/11 10:05 AM
Re: Raft vs DB vs Pontoon
[Re: thaxor]
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Alevin
Registered: 02/21/07
Posts: 13
Loc: Port Angeles, Wa
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I have a 12 foot cataraft and will be upgrading to a 14 foot in two weeks I've drifted most of the west end river on the OP many times. I'd rather have a DB for fall, winter and spring steelhead/salmon fishing and the cataraft for late spring and summer trout drifting. I can drift the OP winters for summer trout/steelhead in very low waters. I used to think I could handle any water on the OP until a couple of weeks ago. I introduced myself to the bottom of the river via current and a rock. Other than hardware, the cataraft floated me down the river upside down until I could get out. Bottom line is confidence. DB require more skill and catarafts/pontoons are more forgiving. (Except in my case a couple of weeks ago!).
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#653581 - 01/13/11 10:14 AM
Re: Raft vs DB vs Pontoon
[Re: wildbill]
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Alevin
Registered: 02/21/07
Posts: 13
Loc: Port Angeles, Wa
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Also, knowing catarafts (pontoons) is like trying to learn a new language. There is welded tubes over heat glue and so on. Steel frames over aluminum and so on. Costs over quality. Steelheader (Skukum Bill Day, RIP) makes a good product along with Badcat. Their tubes are imported by Maxonn in Kent and are glued, but have a shelf life of 10-12yrs +. They are really beefy. American made tubes (NRS, Aire, e.t.c) are heat welded and they feel their product is better. However, reviews have shown that the shelf life is about the same, and the costs of the Maxoon tubes are substantially lower. But the costs of the Steelheader and Badcat cats are high. An idea is to purchase the tubes through Maxoon, then purchase a Badcat frame via craigslist in Seattle. It's posted right now if you do a search--he's been on their off and on for quite a while. Having said all that, I spent four days on the mighty Rogue last October in an aluminum drift boat and it handled great. My guide handled his DF expertly and his skill showed that DB can be used in places that you would think only catarafts could go. Good luck!
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