#654237 - 01/14/11 11:58 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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I would submit that a large percentage of you who are against drug testing are also current or rather recent drug users yourselves, so you are biased, if not baked on the issue. I would submit that you're a simple-minded fool.
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#654246 - 01/15/11 12:21 AM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Registered: 10/19/09
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BWP The bill does not reduce or take away unemployment benefits, it's to make sure the unemployed are employable. Most all companys require a UA for pre-employment screening. This is going to be an interesting fight. Small Buisness owners against the unemployed who don't want to take a UA, better get a bag of popcorn for this one.
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#654261 - 01/15/11 12:46 AM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4166
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
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BWP The bill does not reduce or take away unemployment benefits, it's to make sure the unemployed are employable. Most all companys require a UA for pre-employment screening. This is going to be an interesting fight. Small Buisness owners against the unemployed who don't want to take a UA, better get a bag of popcorn for this one. Wrong.
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#654322 - 01/15/11 10:09 AM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Registered: 10/09/09
Posts: 182
Loc: Coast Range OR.
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Answer me this, Say a person is a life long drug addict (my sister From late teenage year's to her death at age 50 something)She never could beat the drug's.For the most part unemployable the last 25 year's due to drug's. Do you cut this person off and just let them die in the street or steal to survive. Don't see how our gov. could possibly manage something like this, Where does the intrusion into daily lives stop.
Yeah kick all those lazy SOB's off welfare and such sound's good but in the real world our government would just screw it up and the people that do actually need it would get screwed.
Our government is too Big, Unmanageable,and fricken completely out of control,
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#654331 - 01/15/11 11:33 AM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Village Idiot
Registered: 12/06/09
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Requiring employees to be drug free does not infringe on their rights under the 4th amendment. No one is forcing you to apply for employment there or to continue working there.
And nobody is forcing anyone to go on welfare or seek unemployment. Thank you for proving my point. Stay off the dope so you're employable and have some money, and go get a damn job. Most of America can do it, why can't everybody else? It's really not that hard, there are ALWAYS jobs out there for those who really want to work.
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#654336 - 01/15/11 12:05 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
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Loc: West Duvall
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" . . . and go get a damn job. Most of America can do it, why can't everybody else? It's really not that hard, there are ALWAYS jobs out there for those who really want to work."
BD For a guy who spews a constant stream of dumb remarks that may top the list. So I guess there was no great depression, just a bunch of guys who all decided to quit working at the same time? If they had wanted jobs there were jobs for everybody. Do you EVER think before typing?
Right now there are about 14.5 million unemployed in America. I guess there are jobs for all of them if they really wanted to work. They just prefer to lose their houses, their life savings, and everything else they worked for. Yeah, that's it.
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#654340 - 01/15/11 12:32 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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He just doesn't want to lose his stranglehold on 1st place.
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#654347 - 01/15/11 12:50 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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April Fool
Registered: 06/18/01
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He just doesn't want to lose his stranglehold on 1st place. KOTY. Kook Of The Year, by a landslide.
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#654350 - 01/15/11 12:58 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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I'm not sure how he managed it, but I think he's managed to annoy every single person here, from every possible ethnic, religious, or political background...we all piss off a good portion of them, but to piss off all of them at once? That takes some doin'...
Fish on...
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#654351 - 01/15/11 01:00 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Village Idiot
Registered: 12/06/09
Posts: 597
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My neighbor was laid off, he drives school bus and sells firewood to make a living. He sold his toys, boat, motorhome etc, but he's keeping his house. His wife was a stay at home mom but now she works at a grocery store. Hell, a kid knocked on my door a month ago asked if I had any odd jobs. I hired him to plant ten trees @$10 a pop, 6' pine trees. Sure, a hundred bucks won't make the house payment, but he has a whole month to do jobs like that for people. He wants to work, and worked hard, if I had an opening at my shop I'd hire him. Stop making excuses for dead beats.
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#654352 - 01/15/11 01:00 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4317
Loc: South Sound
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...go get a damn job. Most of America can do it, why can't everybody else? It's really not that hard, there are ALWAYS jobs out there for those who really want to work. That has to be the #1 all-timer for PP. Stay tuned for this public service announcement:
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#654355 - 01/15/11 01:18 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Stam has the best business plan ever...hang out with a bunch of dimwits like us, and he's always got a good customer base Fish on... Todd
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#654359 - 01/15/11 01:24 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
[Re: Todd]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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There is iron in the words of stam. bait dumpster speaks with forked tongue.
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#654459 - 01/15/11 07:27 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Registered: 01/11/03
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Loc: Olypen
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I'm not sure how he managed it, but I think he's managed to annoy every single person here, from every possible ethnic, religious, or political background...we all piss off a good portion of them, but to piss off all of them at once? That takes some doin'...
Fish on...
Todd The stoopid..............it's how bait donkey gits 'er done.......... pot....meet kettle
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#654507 - 01/15/11 09:00 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Carcass
Registered: 09/26/06
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bait dumpster speaks with forked tongue. And a mushy head. .
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#654508 - 01/15/11 09:02 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Carcass
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Stam has the best business plan ever...hang out with a bunch of dimwits like us, and he's always got a good customer base Fish on... Todd Somebody should start a poll .. . . who here has had Stam work on their vehicle ?? ? ? I have.
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#654526 - 01/15/11 09:35 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
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Loc: West Duvall
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Do boats count?
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#654649 - 01/16/11 01:05 AM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/26/06
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Loc: South Sound
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Stam has the best business plan ever...hang out with a bunch of dimwits like us, and he's always got a good customer base Fish on... Todd It's not like he deals in rare literature and antiquities. Fucksake, I don't even hit this place up for book recommendations.
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