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#663797 - 02/17/11 12:39 PM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: stonefish]
STRIKE ZONE Offline
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Mid second rounder,he will do fine like said above,if he has a good mentor and a couple years to get there.Good luck,
SZ

He needs to get out of this state for awhile,so no on the "HAWK'S" going after him.

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#663798 - 02/17/11 12:40 PM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: fshwithnoeyes]
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Some GM or coach will probably fall in love with him and he'll go mid first round. Sort of like Tebow last year.

Career wise I think he'll be a .500 backup which is just about the best way to earn a living there is smile I'd be very surprised if he where ever a Pro Bowler.

As a GM though I would NOT draft him. I've just seen him unconcious on the turff too many times. I got a feeling that the NFL is a little bit more concerned about them then UW was.

Heard the other day that the Angels expect Jake to show up for work if there's a lockout. Could be interesting if there is a long NFL lockout. One things for sure there is a ton of more money in baseball!
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#663857 - 02/17/11 04:00 PM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: BroodBuster]
Sol Duc Offline
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His fastball has some hair on it....dayum.

The Shutdown 40: #24 - Jake Locker, QB, Washington
By Doug Farrar
With the 2010 NFL season in the books, it's time to turn our eyes to the NFL draft, and the pre-draft evaluation process. Before the 2011 scouting combine begins on February 24, we'll be taking a closer look at the 40 draft-eligible players who may be the biggest difference-makers when all is said and done.

We continue our series with Washington quarterback Jake Locker. Thought to be a potential top-three pick had he come out for the draft after his junior season of 2009, Locker stayed with the Huskies for his senior to make two goals come true - engineer a winning season, and be part of a team that won a bowl game. Just two year after the Huskies put up an 0-12 season under Tyrone Willingham, there was a 7-6 turnaround with Steve Sarkisian and a victory over heavily favored Nebraska in the Holiday Bowl.

In Year 2 of Sarkisian's pro-style offense, Locker learned in college what he would have learned in a much tougher fashion had he come out after the 2009 season - doing more than one-read-and-run at any level is a tough go when you don't have a fully-developed array of skills. In his 39-game Washington career, Locker completed 619 passes in 1148 attempts for 7,639 yards, 53 touchdowns, and 35 interceptions. He also ran for 1,939 yards and 29 touchdowns on 441 attempts.

Pros: From the snap to the throw, Locker's mechanics are as well-developed as those of any quarterback in this draft class. Drops back quickly and smoothly in three- five- and seven-step drops and transitions well to get the right leverage for the throw. Has an array of playfakes, and uses play action well, Compact delivery gives him the timing advantage. Absolutely has the arm to make any throw - Locker was drafted twice by the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim as a pitcher whose fastball has been clocked at 95 mph, and signed a deal in 2009 that let him continue to play football.

Supremely gifted as a runner in a Steve Young sense - not only can he get outside to make the sprint option throw; he's also a legitimate threat to break tackles downfield and make considerable gains. Far more accurate and comfortable on the run as a passer. High-character player who is very coachable, though the results don't always reflect it.

Cons: Wildly inconsistent as a passer, Locker can go from truly magnificent to hide-your-eyes awful and back again in the same game - sometimes, in the same series. Was asked to carry the load as a pseudo-spread quarterback under Tyrone Willingham, showed promise under Steve Sarkisian in their first year together, but regressed in a lot of areas in 2010, which could indicate that he still has major gaps in the understanding of more complex offenses.

Locker telegraphs his reads far too often and will lock on to his first read far too easily. While he has decent functional mobility in the pocket, he's still learning the finer points of being a pocket passer - he tends to get jumpy when he can't bail out and his decision-making reflects that, as does his accuracy. Showed the same kinds of inconsistencies at the Senior Bowl that he did throughout his Washington career.

Conclusion: The McNabb comparison is a point of reference for estimated NFL completion percentage (McNabb's was 49.1% in 1999), but Locker is as tough to place with a current NFL player as any in this draft. The chasm between his raw physical tools and inconsistency as a passer leaves him as a project quarterback well worth the risk, but with mechanical danger signs all over the place. Not a guy you're going to want to see as an NFL starter right away, Locker will have to sit and learn at the NFL level - and that process may be lengthened if he's drafted by a team with a precision passing offense. He might be better off with an offensive coordinator who prefers a vertical attack.


Edited by Sol Duc (02/17/11 04:02 PM)
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#663906 - 02/17/11 07:15 PM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: Sol Duc]
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Translating play in college to success in the NFL is a tricky deal. A lot of the best NFL quarterbacks are guys you never heard anything about while they were in college, and it seems like a lot of the top picks become busts.

I agree with those who think he will be a good NFL QB if he becomes a more accurate passer (seems like a safe statement to apply to any QB prospect). I would take that a step further and say that he could be one of the best ever if he became a more accurate passer. Somebody should take a chance on him. If it pays off, it will be the gamble of the century. If not, it will just be one more QB prospect proving to be a bust.

He sure looked good the last few games of last season. Maybe he was starting to turn the corner?

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#664073 - 02/18/11 11:41 AM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: FleaFlickr02]
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Jake Locker = Matt Jones - cocaine

Jake will probably play slot receiver or special teams in the NFL. Could play as a safety. Could play QB in the CFL which wouldn't be all bad because it sure helped Warren Moon who eventually ended up in the NFL.
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#664085 - 02/18/11 12:36 PM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: Steelheadman]
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I believe his career will be like Tuioposopo(sp?), a backup QB who will get some playing time but won't produce enough to get him a starting job. Although, I believe he is more of a QB than Tui.
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#664164 - 02/18/11 08:36 PM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: bota2]
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Wide receiver? Safety? Special Teams? laugh

I don't think Jake is any more of a "project" than Tebow is/was, or Cam Newton for that matter. I'm not sure I saw Cam drop back from under center one time this year...all of his pass plays were from the shotgun. Right now he is even less ready for the NFL than Jake, IMO.

Summerrun, Todd, and a couple others pretty much echo my thoughts on his potential. He will shine at the combine and wind up being a middle to late first round or second round pick. Given the proper time and coaching, I think he has the potential to be an average to good NFL QB.

General consensus was that he was probably the #1 pick last year, right? So he comes back for his senior year, leads UW to their first winning season and bowl victory in a coon's age...and gets downgraded for it? His play was neither better nor worse than that of his Junior season.....I just don't get it.

The only really knock I see on Jake is his accuracy. But crap, how in the world can you expect him to be accurate when he was constantly running for his life during his four years at UW?

Ike

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#666458 - 02/27/11 01:18 PM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: Ikissmykiss]
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4.52 second 40 yard dash, not too bad.
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#666460 - 02/27/11 01:59 PM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: Steelheadman]
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Not bad for a longstrided runner. Here is a little tidbit:

Overall, I thought Washington QB Jake Locker threw the best of any quarterback in group one. He showcased good touch down the field, had a strong arm and spinned the football cleanly on all levels of the field. The only time he was a bit inconsistent with his accuracy was on the dig route where he not only had to take his five step drop from under center, but also get the ball out on time. Again, it seems like anytime Locker is asked to process any info into a route his accuracy runs cold.
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#666502 - 02/27/11 08:07 PM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: Sol Duc]
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Congrats to Jake for coming through in the combines.

Now go & represent the PAC 10 proudly.

Mf
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#666655 - 02/28/11 12:58 PM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: ]
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Wow...no problems with accuracy either.

From the Bleacher Report:

"Jake Locker needed to have a great workout at the combine, and he came through. Locker ran a 4.59 40-yard-dash, had a 35-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot broad jump. Locker also led all quarterbacks in the three-cone drill with a time of 6.77.

While he impressed with the drills, the area he had to do the best in was throwing the ball. There have been questions surrounding Locker, and he put them rest with a great throwing session this past weekend.

Locker made all the throws and showcased his accuracy, which was of concern to some. Locker quieted his doubters this weekend, and if he shows this wasn't a fluke and wows scouts on his pro day, he could move back into the first round on draft boards.

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#666661 - 02/28/11 01:05 PM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: Ikissmykiss]
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Is it just me, or is it starting to look more likely that Jake could end up in a Seahawk uniform?

Fish on...

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#666684 - 02/28/11 02:48 PM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Is it just me, or is it starting to look more likely that Jake could end up in a Seahawk uniform?

Fish on...

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I hope not.

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#666705 - 02/28/11 03:45 PM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: ]
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Tom Brady could not play behind our line. Makes little difference until something changes up front.

I have mixed feelings on Jake becoming our future. He seems to know how to choke though he does play with passion. Tough call.
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#666739 - 02/28/11 07:21 PM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: ]
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Interesting stats for sure! I thought his 40 yd dash times while at UW was in the high 4.3's?? For pete's sake I ran that exact 40 time as a senior in high school. I also had the same verticle jump....just sayin

Dave

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#666749 - 02/28/11 08:46 PM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: ]
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You must have misread my post. Where did I say I ran a 4.3? I did however run a 4.59. Your right Chuck 4.3 is stellar. Unfortunately I ran my 4.59 time 20+ yrs ago.

That being said I'm a huge Locker fan. I'm just really surprised at his time. If I'm not mistaken, Jake was running 40 times at UW in the 4.3 range. Just seems funny he's gotten slower instead of faster??

BTW Chuck... you still want the backer rod?

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#666754 - 02/28/11 09:09 PM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: fishmaster]
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He ran 4.3's at UW because UW coaches were keeping the time.

smile

The NFL de-liars lots of claimed 40 times. But 4.59 is still pretty speedy for a QB.
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#666770 - 02/28/11 10:55 PM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: ]
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I still believe he should play baseball.
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#666785 - 02/28/11 11:57 PM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: eddie]
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Originally Posted By: eddie
I still believe he should play baseball.

Why? Just because you could make as much or more money, play 15+ years instead of 7 or 8, and keep your skull intact? Where's the fun or adventure in that?

Couple more combine tidbits that I found interesting...For QB's Locker's 40 time was identical to Cam's. Ty Taylor from VT was the fastest at 4.51, followed by Kaepernick (my sleeper QB) at 4.53.

The speed of the big DL's blows me away...Moch had a 4.44! Fastest LB was Martez Wilson at 4.49....Mason Foster had a 4.75.

Fastest 40 so far I think has been Da'rel Scott, a barnburner WR, at 4.34...so like Dan S. said I doubt Jake has ever run a true 4.3, maybe in Husky stadiuim with a 30 mph tailwind.

Funniest thing? This dufus OL (Moffitt) from Wisconsin got caught on tape picking his nose AND eating it. Does that lower your draft stock?

Ike

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#666791 - 03/01/11 12:16 AM Re: Predictions on Locker? [Re: Ikissmykiss]
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