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#667339 - 03/03/11 02:09 PM swivels on my spoons
spokey9 Offline
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Registered: 05/30/02
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Loc: Ravenden, AR
i'm changing hooks on my spoons and gonna add a barrel swivel between the hook and spoon. what size should i use? i dont wanna kill the action. i've got 1/3 2/5 3/4 oz spoons.
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#667346 - 03/03/11 02:36 PM Re: swivels on my spoons [Re: spokey9]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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I'd go as small as possible as long as the hardware isn't likely to be broken by a fish. You'll likely have to add a split ring on the spoon to get the barrel swivel on so that will add more length anyway.

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#667349 - 03/03/11 03:03 PM Re: swivels on my spoons [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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I think I used a size 8 or 10 the last time I bought them.
Don't skimp here....Make sure you use a quality american made swivel that's not named Vision.
I've recently lost a few fish to Vision swivels where they pulled apart on fish I would have loved to have had to hand. Instead, there's a few fish swimming around on the OP with a hook and half-swivel hanging out of their mouth!
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#667355 - 03/03/11 04:07 PM Re: swivels on my spoons [Re: Sky-Guy]
Mooch Offline
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Save yourself the .02c and aggravation. grin
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#667357 - 03/03/11 04:09 PM Re: swivels on my spoons [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Sky,

Bummer on the vision swivels breaking,I've actually have like'em the past year or so.Hooks,now that's a whole nother story.Good luck,
SZ

Size 7 rosco american made would be the one.

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#667360 - 03/03/11 04:16 PM Re: swivels on my spoons [Re: STRIKE ZONE]
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Originally Posted By: STRIKE ZONE
Sky,

Bummer on the vision swivels breaking,I've actually have like'em the past year or so.Hooks,now that's a whole nother story.Good luck,



+1

I like the vision swivels for the stuff I do- guess I don't tie into big enough fish to test out the strength of em.

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#667362 - 03/03/11 04:20 PM Re: swivels on my spoons [Re: supcoop]
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I have never had a problem with Vision swivels. As for hooks, Gami or Owner nothing else.
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#667396 - 03/03/11 06:49 PM Re: swivels on my spoons [Re: GodLovesUgly]
mutinyman Offline
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See the video on John Keizer's Salt Patrol web site. Click on video and scroll down to "modify coho killer"
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#667409 - 03/03/11 08:04 PM Re: swivels on my spoons [Re: STRIKE ZONE]
Todd Offline
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Originally Posted By: STRIKE ZONE

Size 7 rosco american made would be the one.


+1...that's what I use on mine.

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#667412 - 03/03/11 08:11 PM Re: swivels on my spoons [Re: Todd]
What Offline
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Packed, torched, gorfed and ashed...temple expander extreme.
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#667499 - 03/04/11 01:48 AM Re: swivels on my spoons [Re: STRIKE ZONE]
Direct-Drive Offline
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Registered: 11/10/09
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Loc: Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted By: STRIKE ZONE

Size 7 rosco american made would be the one.

Yep, those on the line end and just a split ring on the hook end for me.
Sometimes a McMahon or Crane depending on what's around.

I also like Rosco USA snap swivels in size 10 for spinners.....prolly use more of those than any other swivel.
If I lived further north I'm sure that I would have to use 7's grin

I do use crap, unrated swivels for non-critical stuff like weight .

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Edited by Direct-Drive (03/04/11 01:52 AM)
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#667551 - 03/04/11 12:42 PM Re: swivels on my spoons [Re: What]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Registered: 01/31/02
Posts: 4450
Loc: B'ham
Originally Posted By: rvrfshr
Packed, torched, gorfed and ashed...temple expander extreme.


Indeed.

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#667573 - 03/04/11 02:11 PM Re: swivels on my spoons [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
Driftfishnw Offline
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Registered: 02/10/09
Posts: 1952
Originally Posted By: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D
Originally Posted By: rvrfshr
Packed, torched, gorfed and ashed...temple expander extreme.


Indeed.


rofl

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#667582 - 03/04/11 03:11 PM Re: swivels on my spoons [Re: Driftfishnw]
STRIKE ZONE Offline
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Registered: 08/09/00
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Loc: Hobart,Wa U.S.A
Don't cough,ya might get off.Good luck,
SZ

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#667659 - 03/05/11 12:40 AM Re: swivels on my spoons [Re: spokey9]
Bigjim Offline
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Registered: 11/15/06
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Originally Posted By: spokey9
i'm changing hooks on my spoons and gonna add a barrel swivel between the hook and spoon. what size should i use? i dont wanna kill the action. i've got 1/3 2/5 3/4 oz spoons.


Wait you mean swivel between spoon and line right?

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#667688 - 03/05/11 09:18 AM Re: swivels on my spoons [Re: Bigjim]
spokey9 Offline
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Registered: 05/30/02
Posts: 204
Loc: Ravenden, AR
[quote=BigJim Wait you mean swivel between spoon and line right?[/quote]

nope a swivel off the back split ring with a siwash off the swivel. i've hooked a couple fish on spoons and they all threw the hook. i was thinking a swivel between the hook and spoon would give them less leverage to toss my gear.
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#667704 - 03/05/11 12:01 PM Re: swivels on my spoons [Re: spokey9]
feathers Offline
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Registered: 02/18/11
Posts: 4
all u want is a 2/0 hook off the split ring. anything extra is unessasasry

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#667713 - 03/05/11 02:08 PM Re: swivels on my spoons [Re: spokey9]
Bigjim Offline
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Registered: 11/15/06
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Originally Posted By: spokey9
[quote=BigJim Wait you mean swivel between spoon and line right?


nope a swivel off the back split ring with a siwash off the swivel. i've hooked a couple fish on spoons and they all threw the hook. i was thinking a swivel between the hook and spoon would give them less leverage to toss my gear. [/quote]

I can't say I have ever seen a steelhead or salmon throw a siwash except at our feet, all we use is 2/5 to 1/2 oz. spoons and size 3 and 4 spinners with split ring to the old rvrfshr hooks and the oems. Not sure if its the design or pure luck but both styles dig way in. Maybe, and don't get me wrong(I am no expert although my signature says different) but are you keeping alot of tension on the fish?

I am kind of curious on this now, as it seems every once in a while someone comes along and brings up hook to land ratios.

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#667715 - 03/05/11 02:38 PM Re: swivels on my spoons [Re: spokey9]
ColeyG Offline
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Loc: AK
Originally Posted By: spokey9
i've hooked a couple fish on spoons and they all threw the hook.


Thank you for not saying "spit the hook."
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#667717 - 03/05/11 02:57 PM Re: swivels on my spoons [Re: ColeyG]
spokey9 Offline
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Registered: 05/30/02
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Loc: Ravenden, AR
not sure if i'm keeping too much tension or not kinda new to steely fishing (bout a year and a half) and really new to tossin' spoons. i dont have problems losing fish with jigs or drift fishing.

i would've said "spit the hook" but the last one that got off was about 8 feet of my ankles and i saw him shake his head "NO" and my spoon drifting past him.
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