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#67984 - 08/14/02 05:22 PM 15 pound cutthroat??
Zen Leecher aka Bill W Offline
Spawner

Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 978
Loc: Moses Lake
Isn't a 15 pound cutthroat a state record... and what the heck would a cut
that size be doing in Lake WA. Normally cutts in Lake WA are sea-runs that
choose to stay in the lake, and I wouldn't expect them to be any bigger
than standard sized sea-runs.

I checked the tail on this fish and it's rounded... so guess it's not a salmon.

State's not playing with triploid cutts....

comments??
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#67985 - 08/14/02 06:37 PM Re: 15 pound cutthroat??
glennski Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 08/13/02
Posts: 111
Loc: Redmond, Wa.
man would sure like to know more about this fish and how it was caught .

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#67986 - 08/14/02 11:24 PM Re: 15 pound cutthroat??
Mike C Offline


Registered: 04/05/01
Posts: 1424
Loc: Redmond
The report is on the lake Washington section. I don't remember the details off hand, seems like they were trolling deep. I tried to enlarge the picture to get a better look but it got grainy fast. Sure does look like a trout. Can't see the red slash markings. A pretty amazing fish. I should check in with Kurt at Special Moments guide service and see what he thinks.
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#67987 - 08/15/02 12:05 AM Re: 15 pound cutthroat??
Cigar Offline
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Registered: 09/01/01
Posts: 369
Loc: Shoreline, Wa.
Mike C,

I will send you a better pix. Yes, it is 100%
Cutthroat. Spot pattern, maxillary extended behind
the eye, orange slash under jaw, and most importently, hyoid teeth behind tongue.

Cigar
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#67988 - 08/15/02 12:36 AM Re: 15 pound cutthroat??
Easy Limits Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/06/01
Posts: 2991
Loc: Nisqually
Lake WA is a very big hole. There has to be more big fish like that in there. What an eating machine. I have caught cutts in the three to four pound range so why not 15 pounds.
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#67989 - 08/15/02 11:17 AM Re: 15 pound cutthroat??
Zen Leecher aka Bill W Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 978
Loc: Moses Lake
Carl,

Why not??? Because most, if not all, Lake WA cutts are decended from sea-run stock. Sea-run stock doesn't get much larger than 6 pounds.

That 15 pounder is the equivalent of growing a quarter horse from a pair of Shetlands... not saying it doesn't happen, but it's rare.

Now, maybe the state or the UW fisheries was playing with beardslee's... and plunked some in Lake WA. I think beardslee's are the Crescent Lake cutts.. those are the ones I'm thinking of. Last I checked the Crescent Lake cutts would run in the mid and upper teens. Then again someone could have put some Lahontans in, but this one didn't have the coloration of one.

Whichever strain it is, it's still a herking sized cutt.
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#67990 - 08/15/02 01:20 PM Re: 15 pound cutthroat??
Easy Limits Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/06/01
Posts: 2991
Loc: Nisqually
Any fish will get giganto if it sits around and eats all of the time. Just imagine being a cutthroat and having the buffet of smolt and other smaller fish that Lake WA provides. I bet there are even bigger cutts than that swimming around in there.
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#67991 - 08/15/02 01:37 PM Re: 15 pound cutthroat??
KurtF Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 01/14/02
Posts: 162
Loc: Olympia, WA
It wouldn't be one of those Donaldson trout, would it? I don't know enough about them...

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#67992 - 08/15/02 01:49 PM Re: 15 pound cutthroat??
Zen Leecher aka Bill W Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 978
Loc: Moses Lake
Donaldson's are lake rainbow trout of steelhead strain.

BC played with them in the mid 80's and planted some of their hard to reach lakes with them. They do get up in the teens. I heard of them to 14 pounds and they probably get bigger. Fishboy was going to be near a lake that had them in it, but his trip got cancelled.

EL, for a fish to get really big it has to have length also... not trying to argue here... so don't take my words as such. A strain of fish will only get so long... and only so round... but with more food it may grow bigger.. but as I see it, only grow bigger in girth. More food doesn't quite equate to longer length.

It would be like giving me more food. I won't grow any taller, but you can bet for sure I'd be buying my clothes down at Bob's Big Boys store.

This is why Cresent Lake is the only lake in WA that grows big cutthroat trout. It has to do with genetics. I'm not counting Lahontans as they have other things going for them that allows them to grow big.

Besides this is an western WA lake where the waters are supposed to be nutrient poor.

Dang. This is a real eye-opener from Lake WA!
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#67993 - 08/15/02 01:57 PM Re: 15 pound cutthroat??
JacobF Offline
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Registered: 01/03/01
Posts: 801
Loc: Post Falls, ID
At our club meeting last night, we were talking about this trout and a couple of guys in our club know biologists who say they've caught quite a few cutthroat up to 32" during gill net test fisheries.

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#67994 - 08/15/02 02:28 PM Re: 15 pound cutthroat??
Busy Offline
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Registered: 07/18/02
Posts: 275
Loc: Bellevue
Someone please correct me if I am wrong here, but isn't Lake Washington one of the most underrated and underfished Lakes of its kind? I would think that this lake offers more surprises ahead as it gets some more serious pressure.
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#67995 - 08/15/02 04:04 PM Re: 15 pound cutthroat??
Easy Limits Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/06/01
Posts: 2991
Loc: Nisqually
Zen, maybe we can equate this fish to a blackmouth (resident king salmon). Blackmouth do not migrate to rivers in the fall. They grow up in salt water and stay in salt water. There energy is spent on feeding. When you catch a blackmouth they are usually shaped like a football, narrow at the head and tail and full of girth in the middle. They are also shorter in length than migratory fish. A migratory king will be longer from head to tail with out a gut. More symetrical I guess.

This is just a theory.
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#67996 - 08/15/02 11:27 PM Re: 15 pound cutthroat??
Easy Limits Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/06/01
Posts: 2991
Loc: Nisqually
Once salmon is done for this year I am going to give the big lake more pressure. I caught nice trout in the middle of January last year. :p
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#67997 - 08/16/02 03:07 PM Re: 15 pound cutthroat??
Busy Offline
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Registered: 07/18/02
Posts: 275
Loc: Bellevue
I'll be right ther with you Carl. Maybe we can hook up in my boat. It will take the rougher water better since it is bigger.
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#67998 - 08/16/02 06:39 PM Re: 15 pound cutthroat??
Coho Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/09/99
Posts: 2682
Loc: Muk
test

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#67999 - 08/20/02 02:06 PM Re: 15 pound cutthroat??
JacobF Offline
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Registered: 01/03/01
Posts: 801
Loc: Post Falls, ID

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#68000 - 08/20/02 02:25 PM Re: 15 pound cutthroat??
Old Man Offline
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Registered: 05/02/01
Posts: 763
Loc: Silver Star,Mt
How did it taste. laugh
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#68001 - 08/20/02 02:26 PM Re: 15 pound cutthroat??
Easy Limits Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/06/01
Posts: 2991
Loc: Nisqually
That is definately a resident trout. Look at all of those spots. eek
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#68002 - 08/20/02 05:52 PM Re: 15 pound cutthroat??
KurtF Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 01/14/02
Posts: 162
Loc: Olympia, WA
I think trolling Rapalas will be part of my game plan from now on! Oh gee...did I give out anyone's zipper lure? laugh

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#68003 - 08/21/02 12:58 AM Re: 15 pound cutthroat??
Cigar Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 09/01/01
Posts: 369
Loc: Shoreline, Wa.
Sorry Kurt,

No Rapalas in this man's boat!!! laugh laugh
This big fella liked spoons....BIG SPOONS. laugh

Jacob,

Thanks a bunch for posting updated picture. laugh laugh

Cigar
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