#684619 - 05/23/11 03:42 PM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot
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I'm always surprised reading the comments. Too many people have their heads in the sand. Too many people make excuses for the criminals.
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#684620 - 05/23/11 03:50 PM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot
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ExtenZe Field Tester
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That's good. They threatened, he protected himself and provided aid. Hopefully that will hold up and the homeowner won't be indicted. I would shoot a thief in the back if I could get away with it. Well, maybe I'd make him dance a little
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#684628 - 05/23/11 04:45 PM
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#684635 - 05/23/11 09:01 PM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot
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I'm always surprised reading the comments. Too many people have their heads in the sand. Too many people make excuses for the criminals. Trolls. Progressive liberals.
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#684649 - 05/23/11 09:58 PM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot
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Poodle Smolt
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Good shoots, both of them.
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#684677 - 05/24/11 12:15 AM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot
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Although as a pacifist I personally would let somebody rob me rather than kill them. I don't own anything somebody can steal worth killing over. But, as a citizen and valued member of the community, I won't question the judgement of the homeowner. Ya, right...:)
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#684678 - 05/24/11 12:17 AM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot
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River Nutrients
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While I feel bad for the homeowner having to deal with this, I feel like one of his shots was a bit off the mark. He could have fired a third shot and not felt like he needed to provide any aid. Anyway, a near perfect ending to a night of home burglary. But it was a detached garage. So, it's not really their actual property that I'm bugrlarizering.
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#684693 - 05/24/11 01:05 AM
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I'm guessing that the homeowner will be OK on this.....since there is only one of the perps that can testify. Two against one could have been sticky.
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#684698 - 05/24/11 01:25 AM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot
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Carcass
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I agree, both are good shoots. . . . .
I feel bad for the dogs, it is really not their fault, it is the owners. . . ..
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#684741 - 05/24/11 11:29 AM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot
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From a dog's perspective, one is either dominant or submissive. After a number of different breeds, I now have a rescued female pit and we savvy the concept. There is no doubt in her mind that this family is dominant over her. She's cool with that and has demonstrated so many times. She runs, off lead, behind my mountain bike and doesn't focus on anything else except following me, passing horses, people, dogs, et al without losing that singular focus. She's been attacked by other dogs a couple of times (I didn't see them first and the owners were not nearby), and she has returned to me to remedy the matter to our satisfaction-- sometimes with a dog firmly attached to her. The choice to walk in the world with a stalwart companion, whether a Pomeranian or a pit, comes with the requisite responsibilities.
That being said, a gun in the capable hands of someone makes them dominant over anyone/anything with bad intent. When choices are made to unwittingly question same, they oft write about such events in the local newspaper...
... with many unwittingly choosing to question same in the attendant comments section of the newspaper article....
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#684780 - 05/24/11 03:01 PM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot
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River Nutrients
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From a dog's perspective, one is either dominant or submissive. After a number of different breeds, I now have a rescued female pit and we savvy the concept. There is no doubt in her mind that this family is dominant over her. She's cool with that and has demonstrated so many times. She runs, off lead, behind my mountain bike and doesn't focus on anything else except following me, passing horses, people, dogs, et al without losing that singular focus. She's been attacked by other dogs a couple of times (I didn't see them first and the owners were not nearby), and she has returned to me to remedy the matter to our satisfaction-- sometimes with a dog firmly attached to her. The choice to walk in the world with a stalwart companion, whether a Pomeranian or a pit, comes with the requisite responsibilities.
That being said, a gun in the capable hands of someone makes them dominant over anyone/anything with bad intent. When choices are made to unwittingly question same, they oft write about such events in the local newspaper...
... with many unwittingly choosing to question same in the attendant comments section of the newspaper article.... Big Stick..?
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#684830 - 05/24/11 07:25 PM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot
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River Nutrients
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I agree, too bad he did not get both of them. Bet he doesn't have any trouble there for some time......
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#684860 - 05/24/11 10:31 PM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot
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Autopsy results are out on the dead thief. Shot in the back - there could be issues - and rightfully so.
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#684861 - 05/24/11 10:35 PM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot
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ExtenZe Field Tester
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Autopsy results are out on the dead thief. Shot in the back - there could be issues - and rightfully so. Uh oh.
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#684862 - 05/24/11 10:40 PM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot
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Autopsy results are out on the dead thief. Shot in the back - there could be issues - and rightfully so. Uh oh. UGH!
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#684864 - 05/24/11 10:45 PM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot
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River Nutrients
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Shot him in the front, the back, the side, wherever. It doesn't change that the burglar was in the shooter's garage where he sure as heck doesn't belong at 4:30 AM or any other time of the day without an invitation. The homeowner shot and killed a burglar, improving society by one less burglar. How can this be anything but a positive influence in society?
Burglars who aren't killed are rewarded by our justice system with its revolving door system, putting them back on the streets, often in less than 24 hours. Most burglaries are committed by repeat offenders. They repeat because even when caught, there is no disincentive to stop burglarizing. The only action I'm aware of that stops burglars from burglarizing is the infrequent action of the victim killing the burglar. Being an open-minded person, if there is any alternative action that actually stops burglars from continuing to burglarize, and being an ongoing plague on society, I'll listen. Meanwhile I'm delighted when I learn there is one less burglar in our midst.
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#684888 - 05/25/11 01:09 AM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot
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I would gladly solve any issue here at Palacio Garra Grande by shooting an intruder in the face with a 230gr Speer Gold Dot. Pretty much ends it right there. Dump the mag and go for a reload. Classy move by rendering first aid. Shooter gets points for that.
Still a good shoot. All he needs to say is "I was in immediate fear for my life. I gave them commands to "stay right there and not to move (mother f'er's)". I thought they were making a move towards me and meant to do me grevious bodily injury. I need to talk wih my lawyer now."
Shoot them in the face, back, foot, leg, dick, ear or chest. Doesn't matter, as long as you make it out alive. Somebody on your property late at night, in your residence (detached garage counts towards "dwelling" as it is a part of your home. Attachment/detachment is not an issue since it is on the same property). Fvck 'em.
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#684889 - 05/25/11 01:15 AM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot
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BTW,
Call before you come over late at night. My 12 year old has the gate zeroed in.
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#684893 - 05/25/11 02:28 AM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot
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One hundred percent behind the home owner. Also like the "dick shot".  But I sure as Hell don't trust our legal system.
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#684900 - 05/25/11 08:10 AM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot
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Hopefully the home owner will come out alright.
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#684901 - 05/25/11 09:25 AM
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There was a case last year (Kitsap County, I think) where the homeowner chased after a burglar that was fleeing and shot him in the back. The homeowner was charged and as I recall, convicted. This will be an interesting case as it unfolds. Burglary is not a capital offense, however, when a burglar is a threat to someone's life, the game changes.
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#684916 - 05/25/11 10:43 AM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot
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The tweaker should not have been where he didn't belong, trying to steal something that wasn't his. Homeowner will be fine.
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#685338 - 05/27/11 06:43 PM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot - Update
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Poodle Smolt
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http://www.thenewstribune.com/2011/05/27/1682228/man-pleads-not-guilty-for-tacoma.html#ixzz1NZst5JgG Man shot in garage in Tacoma pleads not guilty to burglary Pierce County prosecutors on Thursday filed a residential burglary charge against a man who was shot after he allegedly broke into a garage in Tacoma’s South End................
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#685681 - 05/30/11 11:11 AM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot - Update
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River Nutrients
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The home owner should have rolled him over and shot him in the front this time and put a hammer in his hand! Game over, thanks for playing.
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#685689 - 05/30/11 01:10 PM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot - Update
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River Nutrients
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No charges have been filed against the homeowner, who provided medical aid to Cavender, who got out of prison last month, until police arrived.
Not much lernin' going on there in prison.
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#685694 - 05/30/11 01:47 PM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot - Update
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Reverend Tarpones
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He got out of prison till police arrived???
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#685696 - 05/30/11 01:53 PM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot - Update
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No charges have been filed against the homeowner, who provided medical aid to Cavender, who got out of prison last month, until police arrived.
Not much lernin' going on there in prison. Seriously!
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#685711 - 05/30/11 04:29 PM
Re: Early Report/Burglars Shot - Update
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River Nutrients
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Sorry, it's learnded.
Edited by wntrrn (05/30/11 04:33 PM)
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