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#692071 - 07/05/11 02:40 PM comparison 2 to 4 stroke
One Way Offline
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I am considering repowering my Boston Whaler. I am weighing the pros and cons. 4 stroke is cleaner burning, more dependable than what I have , but heavier and I understand higher maintenance. Plus i do beleive quite expensive. My existing 88 hp Evinrude is probably 30 years old, it slow starts, smokes at start up (significantly). Dies when at idle for any length of time and then some times extraordinarily hard to restart. I t does not have hydraulic tilt, mixing fuel is a pain, but it paid for so. So if you were me what would you do? If I were to repower 3 rivers the place to go? Thanks for ideas.

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#692081 - 07/05/11 03:43 PM Re: comparison 2 to 4 stroke [Re: One Way]
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Fours stroke and don't drive by Bayside Marine! Talk to Todd.


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#692082 - 07/05/11 03:58 PM Re: comparison 2 to 4 stroke [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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Sounds like anything would be better than what you have, I'd be scared to untie the boat.
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#692086 - 07/05/11 04:16 PM Re: comparison 2 to 4 stroke [Re: ]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Registered: 01/31/02
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No brainer. 4 stroke. You'll wonder why you waited so long.

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#692090 - 07/05/11 04:46 PM Re: comparison 2 to 4 stroke [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
Captain Q Offline
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Originally Posted By: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D
No brainer. 4 stroke. You'll wonder why you waited so long.


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#692103 - 07/05/11 06:12 PM Re: comparison 2 to 4 stroke [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Chuck S.
Etec ... best of both worlds grin

These have put Evinrude back on the map.
If you don't need to jump out of the hole, the 4 strokes are worth a look.
It's nice to be able to jump out of the hole, though smile
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#692107 - 07/05/11 06:21 PM Re: comparison 2 to 4 stroke [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: AuntyM
Nobody has mentioned the difference in sound. 4 stroke is quieter, is it not? When you have to listen to said motor all day, it matters! Especially if it's a dog gone sportjet.... hate the pitch and volume on that thing!

Aunty, it's a power thing.
Women just don't understand. grin

I hate the pitch and volume, but it's from a certain individual here, where I am. smile
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#692109 - 07/05/11 06:36 PM Re: comparison 2 to 4 stroke [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: AuntyM
grin Hey, I DO have a Mustang GT that I wish was a Cobra... doesn't that count?


That counts, Mustang Sally grin

Can you open it up on that little island with out hitting the water ?
Sorry, couldn't help myself smile
I'm thinkin' a friggin' Cobra would put you right in the drink grin
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#692115 - 07/05/11 07:22 PM Re: comparison 2 to 4 stroke [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: AuntyM

If hubby had the money, Etec for him too.

Give 'em the money, for cryin' out loud grin
Watch out for the woodie, though smile
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#692117 - 07/05/11 07:41 PM Re: comparison 2 to 4 stroke [Re: Direct-Drive]
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Women aren't the only ones who think the sound of a 2-stroke motor is one of the worst sounds that mankind has ever created, whether it be a jet ski or a boat motor.

Fish on...

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#692118 - 07/05/11 07:49 PM Re: comparison 2 to 4 stroke [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Women aren't the only ones who think the sound of a 2-stroke motor is one of the worst sounds that mankind has ever created, whether it be a jet ski or a boat motor.

Fish on...

Todd

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#692121 - 07/05/11 08:06 PM Re: comparison 2 to 4 stroke [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: AuntyM
Hubby can't afford it because he had to retire on disability this month. He did everything he could to keep working, but his 2 docs finally told him if he continued to work, he'd just get worse a lot faster.

I hope he can get healed up, AM.
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#692126 - 07/05/11 08:44 PM Re: comparison 2 to 4 stroke [Re: One Way]
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Just bought a new boat and powered it with a Suzuki 175 4stroke. Came with a 6 year warranty!! Yami was only 3 so I couldn't really pass the Suzuki up. I moved to SC a year ago with Boeing and bought my 21' Key West CC 211. Taken it out 60 miles one way a couple times to get into the Blue and white marlin, mahi and wahoo. I had a 150 merc saltwater before. Loved the hole shot of the 2 stroke, 4 strokes take a little bit to wind up but I like not having to worry about fuel mixture anymore.





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#692141 - 07/05/11 10:44 PM Re: comparison 2 to 4 stroke [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Yeah, and nothing can replace the black cloud or oil slick following a 2-stroke around all day, either...or the trail of gas station receipts.

Fish on...

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#692145 - 07/05/11 11:49 PM Re: comparison 2 to 4 stroke [Re: One Way]
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Loc: Somewhere on the planet,I hope
If your after performance at the HP your have now E-tec if your want performance as to acceleration and low maintenance cost. 4 stroke ( your choice not a lot of diff in the top brands ) of a quite motor but ain't no rocket.

You might want to sign in to the THT BB with this question. Lot more knowledge on power and hulls around there and more diverse.
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#692154 - 07/06/11 01:31 AM Re: comparison 2 to 4 stroke [Re: Rivrguy]
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Registered: 07/06/09
Posts: 1138
Loc: MA13
If I was gonna repower that boat I would find myself a remaining stock Yamaha 2 stroke 115 V4. Virtually no maintenance, pretty good fuel economy, and WAY cheaper than a new 4 stroke or Etec.

I bought one a couple years ago with less than 100 hours on it for $5k. Hung it myself and on my Olympic it burns about 8 gph at cruise. New Yami 115 four stroke roughly 10k, Etec 11k. How much gas and oil can you buy with that $5000 in savings?

Besides, nothing sounds better than a 2 stroke running on the ear muffs in the driveway!!


Edited by DBAppraiser (07/06/11 01:32 AM)

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#692183 - 07/06/11 11:39 AM Re: comparison 2 to 4 stroke [Re: DBAppraiser]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27840
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Originally Posted By: DBAppraiser
If I was gonna repower that boat I would find myself a remaining stock Yamaha 2 stroke 115 V4. Virtually no maintenance, pretty good fuel economy, and WAY cheaper than a new 4 stroke or Etec.

I bought one a couple years ago with less than 100 hours on it for $5k. Hung it myself and on my Olympic it burns about 8 gph at cruise. New Yami 115 four stroke roughly 10k, Etec 11k. How much gas and oil can you buy with that $5000 in savings?

Besides, nothing sounds better than a 2 stroke running on the ear muffs in the driveway!!


We just put one of those on Addicted's boat a few weeks ago...and it is a pretty nice motor, and a lot quieter than I expected, to boot.

Fish on...

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#692193 - 07/06/11 12:48 PM Re: comparison 2 to 4 stroke [Re: Todd]
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Registered: 01/22/06
Posts: 917
Loc: tacoma
I like my e-tec. It is not loud. It does not smell. It has clean emmissions. It gets great fuel economy. It trolls down to around 500 rpm and does not load up.

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#692345 - 07/07/11 02:40 AM Re: comparison 2 to 4 stroke [Re: ]
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Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
To answer the original question......depends what you want. If saving money is an issue, then 2 stroke....if impressing your friends is important, then 4 stroke is your go-to motor.
Forget the "save money on gas" argument if you buy a 4 stroke, because your outlay of cash in the purchase kills that dead, but the quiet aspect is not arguable.
If weight is an issue, 2 strokes are lighter.
As I recall, you left your boat so unattended a while back that the steering cable froze up, so if you are only going to use the boat infrequently, maybe a smaller investment in a motor purchase is prudent. I only have 2 strokes for main power, and some 4 stroke kickers. If you are a troller and plan on using the main motor as your trolling motor, only a four stroke will do that.
Good luck with trying to keep from throwing more money down that "fishing boat hole". smile
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#692540 - 07/08/11 07:25 AM Re: comparison 2 to 4 stroke [Re: ParaLeaks]
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Registered: 06/01/06
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Loc: San Rafael, Ca. & Whidbey Isla...
Thanks for the tips, I am going to look at pricing and slab I am that guy. My boat lives in a different state from me now. I am really looking for dependability and a quality long term investment.

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