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#696420 - 07/28/11 12:26 PM Boeing
MartyMoose Offline
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Personally I am quite neutral regarding this issue. Just wonder what others think.
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#696426 - 07/28/11 12:52 PM Re: Boeing [Re: MartyMoose]
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I was listening to Dave Ross one morning and the former union rep was on talking about the strike at that time. Been a bit but the heart of it as I recall was with Airbus competition, China in the future, the cost of doing business in general, that the strike was way past stupid. That it was going to result in no new model production in PS as Boeing had many options. Strike went on, Gov showed up and pranced around, then strike was over but I will be damned if the former union rep's warning is not coming true.

Dodged the bullet with the tanker thing but that is not a new line like the Dreamer. Seems to go that way with large corporations as they get get bad management and the unions over reach and wella crap flies as the blame game begins.


Little edit:" Sure, Boeing wants a cheap, malleable non-union workforce (you get what you pay for: I sure want to fly in those airplanes)."

I am a union member with a pension and medical, that said why on earth do some union supporters like the guy that wrote the article think that non union workers are idiots or worse incapable of being a functional human being? I sure appreciated my union but hell it was a challenge to compete with non union shops and in the end we got down sized big time.


Edited by Rivrguy (07/28/11 01:05 PM)
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#696429 - 07/28/11 12:56 PM Re: Boeing [Re: MartyMoose]
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First off, Boeing's move to Chicago was done to please former speaker Dennis Hastert, a move companies were required to do during the Bush years when the US Government was being auctioned off to whomever sucked the most GOP cock. It's now known as the Abramoff Scandal.

Secondly, Boeing has been trying to bust the unions for 60+ years. It's all they care about. That way they can pay workers minimum wage and treat them like Third World Serfs while the Execs get private jets and mansions in St. Barts.

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#696509 - 07/28/11 07:26 PM Re: Boeing [Re: Irie]
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Wow! Capitalism and fascism at their best.

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#696521 - 07/28/11 09:23 PM Re: Boeing [Re: Salmo g.]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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It's not a labor market out there.

Corporations are paying less and demanding more because they can. They have 100 people lined up to take your job any day you want to walk out the door.

I don't see it changing any time soon, either.

Union leadership should really figure it out.
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