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#713692 - 10/28/11 02:54 PM Re: poacher! [Re: chasbo]
docspud Offline
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Coley-

I have never "pressed charges" on anyone for anything as I have never found the situation where it could not be dealt with in some other way be it busting knucks or talking/yelling it out. So go ahead and you can give me an example as I am not following where you are trying to go with this.

Chasbo-

Not trying ot put words in your mouth but that is how it struck me when I read the story. If wrong.....my bad.
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#713693 - 10/28/11 03:01 PM Re: poacher! [Re: docspud]
ColeyG Offline
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I am not trying to be facetious. I hear that term quite a bit and in a number of different contexts and so I am simply trying to better understand what is commonly intended when folks use it.

Another unfortunate example of how I think television, among other factors, has caused confusion about how our legal/penal system works.
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#713697 - 10/28/11 03:17 PM Re: poacher! [Re: ColeyG]
chasbo Offline
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the only times I have pressed a charge were when muzzle loading or hittin the honey bucket while the boat was waiting.

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#713706 - 10/28/11 03:58 PM Re: poacher! [Re: chasbo]
ColeyG Offline
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I'll try and share my understanding. Someone more knowledgeable on the subject please feel to chime in.

Regarding criminal matters, e.g. a law was broken, law enforcement personnel are the only folks who can 1) issue citations, 2) make arrests, the two components that make up what I think most refer to as "pressing charges." Citations can take a few different forms, either a collateral citation (pay a fine), or mandatory appearance, which is requiring someone to show up and talk to a judge for their penalty. Being arrested is fairly straightforward. A person is taken into custody and formally charged, by the arresting agency, with having committed a crime.

As a private citizen, our only dealings with criminal issues would be notifying LE, and/or providing accounts, testimony, etc. Although LE folks sometimes take our preference and opinions into account in making their decisions on appropriate courses of action, but they are certainly not required to do so, and often times don't. In other words, we have no real say as to whether or not "charges are pressed."

We, the private citizens of the US, have the civil system to help us seek remedy for alleged wrong doings that harm us. These wrong doings may be criminal in nature, but don't necessarily have to be. Instead of "pressing charges" what we would be doing is seeking a civil remedy for the alleged wrong doings. In other words, trying to demonstrate in court that damages were suffered, and certain actions (or lack thereof) were the cause of said damages, and then of course request that a suitable remedy be made, financial or other.
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#713715 - 10/28/11 04:23 PM Re: poacher! [Re: Irie]
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Originally Posted By: Irie
Originally Posted By: redhook
ummm, i think RvW knows more about guns, and laws, than both of us combined... pretty harsh statement there.


Go fvck yourself, queer. I could outgun that faggoty little churchboy any day of the week.

Near or far.


A little liquid courage and you almost sound like a big girl.

I could outshoot, outfight and outphvck you...anytime, near or far. shoot
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#713720 - 10/28/11 04:47 PM Re: poacher! [Re: RowVsWade]
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Pics or it didn't happen!!!!
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#713729 - 10/28/11 05:12 PM Re: poacher! [Re: j 7]
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hunting forum is where the action is! smile
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#713731 - 10/28/11 05:16 PM Re: poacher! [Re: OPfisher]
ColeyG Offline
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who da thunkit?
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#713738 - 10/28/11 06:11 PM Re: poacher! [Re: j 7]
big moby Offline
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rofl

The outfvck part threw me off...... not sure where that is going.
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#713739 - 10/28/11 06:16 PM Re: poacher! [Re: ColeyG]
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I was under the impression that in certain cases a citizen can make a 'Citizen's Arrest'. Now this could also be tied back to too much TV as a kid watching cop shows, but it has always stuck in my head.
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#713742 - 10/28/11 06:20 PM Re: poacher! [Re: RowVsWade]
Drew Offline
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I could outshoot, outfight and outphvck you...anytime, near or far. shoot [/quote]

Sounds like one hell of a triathalon! When is this competition?

rofl
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#713743 - 10/28/11 06:33 PM Re: poacher! [Re: MartyMoose]
Coho Offline
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Originally Posted By: MartyMoose
Now this could also be tied back to too much TV as a kid watching cop shows, but it has always stuck in my head.



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#713749 - 10/28/11 07:07 PM Re: poacher! [Re: MartyMoose]
ColeyG Offline
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Originally Posted By: MartyMoose
I was under the impression that in certain cases a citizen can make a 'Citizen's Arrest'.


Varies state by state. Some states have a provision for a citizens arrest or detainment of a criminal for certain offenses, most do not.

Attempting such a thing would likely result in both civil and criminal action against the person attempting to make a citizens arrest. In other words, not recommended.
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#713806 - 10/28/11 09:30 PM Re: poacher! [Re: RowVsWade]
Big_Daddy
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Originally Posted By: RowVsWade
Originally Posted By: Irie
Originally Posted By: redhook
ummm, i think RvW knows more about guns, and laws, than both of us combined... pretty harsh statement there.


Go fvck yourself, queer. I could outgun that faggoty little churchboy any day of the week.

Near or far.


A little liquid courage and you almost sound like a big girl.

I could outshoot, outfight and outphvck you...anytime, near or far. shoot


You 3 guys should all get together and meet each other...

I'd pay to see that one........ grin

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#713814 - 10/28/11 09:41 PM Re: poacher! [Re: ]
RowVsWade Offline
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Originally Posted By: Big_Daddy
You guys should all get together and meet each other...


Maybe after I get done with Church we could....
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#713815 - 10/28/11 09:43 PM Re: poacher! [Re: RowVsWade]
redhook
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ill bring the smoked salmon!!

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#713818 - 10/28/11 09:45 PM Re: poacher! [Re: RowVsWade]
Big_Daddy
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Originally Posted By: RowVsWade
Originally Posted By: Big_Daddy
You guys should all get together and meet each other...


Maybe after I get done with Church we could....


rofl rofl


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#713831 - 10/28/11 10:10 PM Re: poacher! [Re: ColeyG]
chasbo Offline
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Loc: oly
Sounds like one hell of a triathalon! When is this competition?


That didn't come from no chitweed city boys, must be in Lynnwood

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#713834 - 10/28/11 10:14 PM Re: poacher! [Re: chasbo]
chasbo Offline
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Registered: 10/09/07
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Loc: oly
I just talked with lady whose property they used to access the meat. The male deputy told her that he hunts on his 5 acres. "I put corn out for them, and last year I got a nice buck shooting from my bedroom window."

That pretty much says it all.

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#713915 - 10/29/11 04:12 AM Re: poacher! [Re: RowVsWade]
Irie Offline
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Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4358
Loc: South Sound
Originally Posted By: RowVsWade
Originally Posted By: Big_Daddy
You guys should all get together and meet each other...


Maybe after I get done with Church we could....


Iron sights or optics, bitch. Either way you're hanging pig.

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