#713770 - 10/28/11 08:14 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: The Closer]
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redhook
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i have my GF come with me, she stays in the car, or when its sunny out, sits on the bank and does her nursing homework for college... shes met many people this year, and seen many fish caught, and actually enjoys it... if she could stop casting into the trees every single cast, she could fish as well lol....
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#713771 - 10/28/11 08:16 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 08/12/08
Posts: 169
Loc: Puyallup, WA
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i have my GF come with me, she stays in the car, or when its sunny out, sits on the bank and does her nursing homework for college... shes met many people this year, and seen many fish caught, and actually enjoys it... if she could stop casting into the trees every single cast, she could fish as well lol.... Assume she will not go with you. Especially this time of year!! Cold hands, hungry, bored... I've heard them all!
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#713772 - 10/28/11 08:18 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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River Nutrients
Registered: 01/13/03
Posts: 2562
Loc: Edmonds
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It has to start BEFORE the relationship evolves into being serious. Either you'll understand that or you won't.
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#713775 - 10/28/11 08:23 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: wntrrn]
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redhook
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well, first off, you have to chose wisely...my last GF was a complete bitch, i didnt get to do much of anything let alone fish, did i still fish? of course, but i had to deal with it... then i got sick of it... the one im with now, just so happens to have a cabin in Campbell River BC, and was born into fishing and being on the water... her Grandfather was good friends with Rodderick Haig-Brown, and other serious BC anglers and just grew up in it... lucky? possibly, but regardless, if you take something from me that i enjoy, expect the same to happen to you... usually when thats brought up, they think twice about what they are doing... if they cant deal with it, theres a chick out there that will... but, i have no kids, so its a little different, first and foremost, MAKE HER HAPPY, then she has no reason to bitch, if you do, and she still does, make her some crazy good recipe with fish, and that should change...i dont get that option tho, my GF is a veg-head...
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#713777 - 10/28/11 08:25 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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Returning Adult
Registered: 11/17/04
Posts: 349
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Been married for 30+ happy years and fish plenty. The key to all good relationships (from the guy's perspective) - SET LOW EXPECTATIONS at the beginning. If they don't tolerate you fishing at the beginning, there's no hope later.
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#713779 - 10/28/11 08:29 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: SeaDNA]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 03/19/07
Posts: 1323
Loc: sequim, Wa
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Been married for 30+ happy years and fish plenty. The key to all good relationships (from the guy's perspective) - SET LOW EXPECTATIONS at the beginning. If they don't tolerate you fishing at the beginning, there's no hope later. +1 and I married a girl from forks, was nothing new to her...
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#713784 - 10/28/11 08:38 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: hybridcx]
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Ranger Danger
Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 3076
Loc: AK
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Quit being so damn nice for one. If she doesn't enjoy having you around, it will be a lot easier to leave! Only half serious there.
I have it pretty good in that my wife understands how much having my own time and adventures outside of "us" means to me, and she fully supports that. As others have said, expectation management is key. Her expectations for our time together have been low from the start in knowing that I am gone for 2-4 week chunks of time throughout the year both for work and fun. That is a part of me, who I am, and who I will always be. She chose to accept that. Making sure she gets her opportunities to do what she wants and generally feels fulfilled goes a long way as well.
In your case, she obviously has a preferred way for you to spend your time other than doing what you would most like to be doing. What is that? Hanging with her? Honey-do-list? Working? What is she not getting that she wants? It is always a give and take game. Ideally you are both giving and taking about the same, but most of us wouldn't probably say there is some imbalance in our given relationships...true or not.
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#713785 - 10/28/11 08:39 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: hybridcx]
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Spawner
Registered: 08/30/03
Posts: 846
Loc: Port Angeles, WA
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+1 and I married a girl from forks, was nothing new to her...
Hey I did the same!
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#713787 - 10/28/11 08:44 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: Brad_tgl]
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Ranger Danger
Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 3076
Loc: AK
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Is her name Mark? 
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#713792 - 10/28/11 08:48 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: ColeyG]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 08/12/08
Posts: 169
Loc: Puyallup, WA
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Quit being so damn nice for one. If she doesn't enjoy having you around, it will be a lot easier to leave! Only half serious there. Lol. Complete opposite. Thanks for all the helpful advice.
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#713793 - 10/28/11 08:51 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: Sol Duc]
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Parr
Registered: 10/08/11
Posts: 41
Loc: SW Washington
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Celebrating 13 years next Friday. Wife fishes (and hunts). When she goes with me, especially this time of year, I take her to places with fishing shacks and we plunk. To get out on my own, I make sure I have done enough "Honey Do's" so there's no reason for her to say no. I also try to schedule my trips around her work schedule (if she's at work I might as well be fishin'). Probably the most important, when I say I'm goin' fishin', I GO fishin' (not to a bar or buddy's house). And try to be home when you say you will (unless the fish are biting and they she understands). Good luck.
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#713794 - 10/28/11 08:53 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: RM1 Doc]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 08/12/08
Posts: 169
Loc: Puyallup, WA
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Celebrating 13 years next Friday. Wife fishes (and hunts). When she goes with me, especially this time of year, I take her to places with fishing shacks and we plunk. To get out on my own, I make sure I have done enough "Honey Do's" so there's no reason for her to say no. I also try to schedule my trips around her work schedule (if she's at work I might as well be fishin'). Probably the most important, when I say I'm goin' fishin', I GO fishin' (not to a bar or buddy's house). And try to be home when you say you will (unless the fish are biting and they she understands). Good luck. Thats why I switched my schedule to 4 10's. Wednesdays off  Those damn "Honey dos". Just gotta suck it up!
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#713801 - 10/28/11 09:19 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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WINNER
Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
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You are doomed, Closer.  Someone changed the rules.....or perceived rules. But one thing is for sure....you didn't let her know of your love for fishing in a way that she understood, or you didn't know how much you enjoyed it until after you two got together, but either way, yer screwed. You will likely spend a lot of time trying to prove me wrong......and I hope you do......but.......it ain't looking good.
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#713809 - 10/28/11 09:34 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: The Closer]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 01/20/04
Posts: 149
Loc: Mtn. west
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Guess I got lucky, 35+ years and she understands. She never complains when I want to go hunting or fishing, sometimes she goes along, other times she encourages me to go without her.
Sorry, I just can't identify with your situation.
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#713817 - 10/28/11 09:44 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: ParaLeaks]
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Registered: 02/02/04
Posts: 2237
Loc: N of Seattle
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There is a huge list of people on this board that are not qualified to give you any good advise with this and I am one of them. I believe there was no way to save mine without tossing my balls in the garbage and being unhappy. The thought of me having a good time doing what I loved without her or with her while she wasn't enjoying it just pissed her off. I couldn't give it up and she just didn't get it. Game Over
Good luck. Hope she is worth the sacrifice or she figures it out. If your happyness doesn't mean anything to her gtfo.
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#713819 - 10/28/11 09:45 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
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You gotta keep your pimp hand strong. This. Truth: Over the last 4 years I pretty much gave up my life working on our property and building our house. I have continued to be busy working side jobs for money (with skills I picked up in the last 4 years) so money isn't an issue, time is. I have a stack of kitchen passes so tall, it has a flashing red light on top to warn the planes flying by. I make sure I set time to spend with the wife, first and foremost. The boys (our sons) are our first priority, but I make sure she feels confident in our relationship everyday. I make sure she has her time to spend with friends, and I encourage her to do so. She does roller derby, so she gets lots of "her" time. Need a black eye? Talk back to my wife, the probation officer. No, really, that is what she does. Whenever you return from a fishing trip, thank them for "letting" you go (mind fuk 'em), and make sure you are in a good mood. They will realize that "letting" you go fishing works out for them as well. In truth, it is all about creating an honest relationship and reasonable expectations. You need to fish & hunt, as that is what makes you "you". A relationship will require some moderation at times.
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#713820 - 10/28/11 09:46 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: Achewter]
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redhook
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tell her, if you cant fish, you better start working your jaw muscles out... bet that attitude changes rather quickly...
PS, thank me later, you could have a potential gold mine on your hands...
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#713826 - 10/28/11 10:04 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: Achewter]
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Hahahaha haha ha
Registered: 04/07/07
Posts: 1870
Loc: Silverdale WA
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im lucky my hubby likes to fish...but we did split up and i dated other guys that fished, just they didnt fish enough or i should say they didnt want to spend every day they had off fishing...to me and you may call me needy, i need to have a partner that fishes...not just fishes but wants to fish as much as i do...god forbid when we get old enough to not be able to fish as much..i just hope by then we will have life in common... ill be frank when i say this but the other key to a good realitionship in my eyes and i may be a minority here but as long as she is getting enough in the bedroom that should keep her happy...cause if your getting enough you stop bitching...or at least i do sex and fishing...thats the ticket  give her enough and she will be silly slapped and want a break 
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#713828 - 10/28/11 10:07 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6216
Loc: zipper
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It has to start BEFORE the relationship evolves into being serious. Either you'll understand that or you won't. Yeah that, gave my gf of 12 years a pair of waders the first Christmas together. Told her that fishing is what I do and she can either come with or see ya when I get home. Never in 12 years had any problems fishing as much as I want, and sometimes it's a lot. when they want to spend every second of your free time with you, then it gets tough! Start having to plan fishing weeks in advance. Maybe I should take the ring back She wants to spend every second of free time with you but not go fishing? Ring?? thinking with the wrong head if you want to go fishing. 13 years ago I left my ex who threw a fit if I wanted to fish, "this is what I get after five years?" Sayonara!
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#713832 - 10/28/11 10:13 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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Returning Adult
Registered: 09/20/01
Posts: 380
Loc: Seattle
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As someone else said the key is to set expectations early.
My best advice to new husbands is if you don't plan on going all out for things like birthdays, anniversaries, valetines days etc. for the rest of your life don't do it the first year. Once you start you're stuck, because if you ever stop they'll take it as an insult. (I'm not saying be a total slacker, but I see guys going way overboard the first year and I'm like man you are setting youself up for a world of hurt a couple years down the line)
Same concept goes for fishing, if you want to go fishing every weekend in the fall you should have been doing while you were still dating. That way she can't come back with "remember when you used to spend every weekend with me" when you ask to go fishing.
Going of 14 years, have two kids and I still fish at least once a week from June though April.
Wife gets her girl nights out and girls weekends and I get my fishing trips. If you want to last you both need you separate activities and equal oppurtunity to do them without bitching from either side.
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#713839 - 10/28/11 10:22 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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Hahahaha haha ha
Registered: 04/07/07
Posts: 1870
Loc: Silverdale WA
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hahahha...if i got it every day i would never bitch...but my hubby controls the c@ck and he keeps it that way...hahahah
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#713840 - 10/28/11 10:23 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: lovetofish365]
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redhook
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sounds like hes screwing up... best way to shut em up, its to fill em up, every single day... dont go taking that to the bank tho, some of you old farts might break a hip!! 
Edited by redhook (10/28/11 10:24 PM)
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#713867 - 10/28/11 11:12 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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Returning Adult
Registered: 12/14/09
Posts: 300
Loc: WA
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Relationships like this will eat your soul. She needs a hobby of her own and some friends. Sign her up for a book club or something.
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#713889 - 10/29/11 01:04 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: The Closer]
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Parr
Registered: 10/08/11
Posts: 41
Loc: SW Washington
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Celebrating 13 years next Friday. Wife fishes (and hunts). When she goes with me, especially this time of year, I take her to places with fishing shacks and we plunk. To get out on my own, I make sure I have done enough "Honey Do's" so there's no reason for her to say no. I also try to schedule my trips around her work schedule (if she's at work I might as well be fishin'). Probably the most important, when I say I'm goin' fishin', I GO fishin' (not to a bar or buddy's house). And try to be home when you say you will (unless the fish are biting and they she understands). Good luck. Thats why I switched my schedule to 4 10's. Wednesdays off  Those damn "Honey dos". Just gotta suck it up! I work 4/10's too! Friday is my "free" day (fishin' every chance I can). Weekends is for us. Either riding the bike (unless it's 40 below and raining), fishin' together or sometimes, doing what she wants.
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#713890 - 10/29/11 01:11 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: RM1 Doc]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 03/06/01
Posts: 1200
Loc: Gig Harbor, WA
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this whole thread should be deleted,
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#713891 - 10/29/11 01:13 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: RM1 Doc]
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Spawner
Registered: 08/30/10
Posts: 656
Loc: Grays Harbor
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If she doesn't like to go fishing and doesn't like you to go fishing staying with her means you will not have a moment of peace regardless. You feel like your tied down because you can't fish if oyu don't or she will make your life miserable if you do fish.
Best said by a friends uncle's plaque: We interupt this wedding for fishing season.
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#713897 - 10/29/11 01:56 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: fish_4_all]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 08/04/99
Posts: 1432
Loc: Olympia, WA
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If she complains about your fishing, go hunting. If she complains about your hunting, take up golf. If she complains about that, go drinking with your friends. Keep moving, and sleep with one eye open. She will never get your balls! Married 47 years and still learning...
to keep my mouth shut and do what I'm told. hahahah
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#713905 - 10/29/11 02:35 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: ColeyG]
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Ornamental Rice Bowl
Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12621
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Is her name Mark? You owe me a shot of Lagavulin, Coley! Damn.... still trying to lick it off the monitor!
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#713906 - 10/29/11 02:36 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: eyeFISH]
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Ornamental Rice Bowl
Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12621
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As for the Closer...
Dude, you're screwed!
Take it from someone who knows.
Cut yer losses while yer ahead.
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#713907 - 10/29/11 02:43 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: eyeFISH]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4167
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
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Just tell her you're going fishing and if she complains tell her she's lucky you don't hunt. If that doesn't work give her your credit card and tell her to go shopping.
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#713908 - 10/29/11 02:59 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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Spawner
Registered: 10/18/04
Posts: 502
Loc: Whatcom
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Some guys get away with murder, while others are hen pecked to death. Not sure why that is. I do like Redhooks approach about her jaw muscle excercises  If fishing is you passion, then she needs to respect that. Chances are that it will NOT get better with time. If your not happy, TELL HER. If she's not willing to change then........ thats a decision only you can make Either way good luck!!!
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#713912 - 10/29/11 03:30 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: fishhog]
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Ranger Danger
Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 3076
Loc: AK
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I am surprised at all of the"cut your losses" advise and negativity. Who is to say this isn't an easily corrected issue and that a little work can't result in a better relationship in the end?
No freaking wonder we are at an all time low in marriage success rate. When the going gets tough...bail?
Work on it dude. If you both truly care about the relationship and each other, you'll find a compromise. If you don't, you'll reach an impasse and either hate each other for the rest of your lives or call it quits...like 60 odd percent of folks that say "I do" these days.
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#713916 - 10/29/11 06:44 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: ColeyG]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 12/24/07
Posts: 383
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You gotta choose the right woman. The reason why most marriages end in divorce is because a bunch of bed wetting pussies let woman have too many rights. In fact more rights than a man. Back in the 50's you could smack the hell out of your woman and no one would say a thing, (I'm not saying it was right) but now if you even yell at your old lady and the cops come 9 out of 10 times your going to jail. Do what you want but I would seriously reconsider your relationship with this gal. Marriage these days isn't meant to benefit the man and besides It's not like her pussy is lined with velvet. Woman are fungible go find a new one.
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#713937 - 10/29/11 10:59 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: Twitch]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 12/14/01
Posts: 1191
Loc: Everett WA
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I just take her with me Dude. atleast get her a real rod (before someone else does  ) Going on 27 years and 2 kids in college and we have an agreement, I do what I want, she does what she wants and if there is something that one of us thinks is important we do it together, no questions asked. We have both learned to make sure the important things are really important to us and will be important to the other person.
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#713941 - 10/29/11 11:15 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: GBL]
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6216
Loc: zipper
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1st scenario, balls in a vise. Oh honey, I love you so much, here's a $10,000 ring to prove it, now what kind of wine do I get for the bunco party? I'm losing weight but this gluten free thing might be ok, as long as you still like it, lover. Even though it quit raining yesterday and the river's green, that fishing thing can wait I really don't want to miss Sex and the City.
2nd scenario, mutual respect. Honey, I'm going fishing tomorrow. And there's good tides so next three days I'll be home after dark, have fun at bunco. Wife, have fun, call if you're going to be real late. remember, we have plans for Thanksgiving.
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#713953 - 10/29/11 11:58 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: Drifterman1]
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WINNER
Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
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A person can spend WAY too much of their life "working on it".....example.......how many couples do you know who have had a temporary separation to "work on it" and then reconciled? I know of only a couple of instances......and their relationships today are only "so-so". Young folks deserve a chance to find out for themselves.....(no sh!t, Sherlock.....like they would listen, anyway  ) Feel free to piss away as much of your life as you wish.......after all, it's your life. Good Luck.....seriously
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#713962 - 10/29/11 12:36 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: Achewter]
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The Chosen One
Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13951
Loc: Mitulaville
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There is a huge list of people on this board that are not qualified to give you any good advise with this and I am one of them. Ok, that made me laugh. Some of the fishing trips do resemble a group therapy meeting.... 
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#713989 - 10/29/11 01:49 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: The Moderator]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
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Whenever you return from a fishing trip, thank them for "letting" you go (mind fuk 'em),  You kill me, Andy.
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#714005 - 10/29/11 03:46 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 06/30/04
Posts: 1078
Loc: Silverdale, WA
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Well I dont really have the problem when it comes to fishing. My wife likes to fish/camp as much as I do and is usually jealous that I get to fish more than her (she works every other weekend). So when I plan fishing trips with the boys I try to do so on the weekends she works. If she is off and I plan on fishing it is just a given she is going unless she says she is not. Hell the new Intruder we got in June was her idea. We argue sometimes about differences in our schedules or difference in our plans/priorities. Sometimes I give in (if I feel it is important and I was just being an ass) but sometimes we argue over stupid [censored]. I tell her life is to short to argue over stupid [censored] and that I didnt marry her because I was unhappy being single and then I go do what I had planned. When I return she may still be alittle upset but usually had enough time to realize that the situation was stupid and then we move on.
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#714042 - 10/29/11 08:22 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: RognSue]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 11/29/04
Posts: 1340
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I'd never hook up with a woman that restricted my freedom. It just makes my skin crawl to hear of wives that won't "let" their husbands hunt, fish or hang mounts on the walls.
Sure some family functions are necessary to keep the peace, but the control put forth by some of these high maintenance bitches is way more than I can handle.
My wife grew up in a hunting & fishing family and understands my illness.
Run for your life.
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#714044 - 10/29/11 08:26 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: RognSue]
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WINNER
Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
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I just put on the kevlar vest and run for the door... Or...I just "let" Sue out fish me every weekend or at least catch more fish than me...and she paid for 1/2 the Db... You better run......I see where she's aiming........and it ain't to kill..... 
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#714047 - 10/29/11 08:34 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: Salmonella]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 07/06/09
Posts: 1138
Loc: MA13
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Its like going to the horse track. Some guys go and pick winners, others go and constantly pick the old nag who costs them money. The key to success is research and knowledge.  And every once in a while you just get lucky. Chuck texted me last Friday about hitting the Cowlitz on Sunday and of course I said yes. Later that evening I told the wife that Chuck had asked me to go fishing and she said "You should go". I said " Already said yes". End of discussion. If it isn't that easy, then you picked wrong.
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#714062 - 10/29/11 09:38 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: DBAppraiser]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
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Word to DBA. You seem more intelligent than the average Cooger. 
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#714068 - 10/29/11 10:03 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: GBL]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 11/17/04
Posts: 349
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Been married 35 years. The first year she said you can't go fishing, we got in a fight and I dispersed to the OP for a week, no one could find me. When I got home she was pissed so I re-packed and said I will be back in a few days. She started the whole "you don't love me" thing, hell we were young. That is when I told her that I got married to Fvck not fight and if all she wants to do is fight then I am going fishing. 34 years later she asks where I am fishing and do I need anything before I go! We never fight at all so that only leaves one thing to do, even after 35 years! And the best thing---She helped me buy the lodge in Alaska and helps with marketing and I go up 4 times a summer...without her. Can't beat that after 35 years. I read this to my wife. She wants to know what your wife is doing those 4 times of the year during the summer when you are gone  .
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#714132 - 10/30/11 01:12 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 1832
Loc: Kitsap Peninsula
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I've been married for 39 years. I told my wife on our second date that I fished, hunted, sailed and spent time hanging out with some old friends partying. That she would always be invited but regardless, I'm going to do what I'm going to do. She doesn't like to camp, fish in cold weather, gets seasick and has always given me maximum slackage to do what I want because she accepted that as a condition of our relationship. So, it comes down to whether you want to just cut bait on your relationship or give it one more shot by you both talking to a 3rd party. Whattever you do, do it before kids are part of the picture 'cause it ain't gonna get better until you hit it head on. Every couple has adjustment problems. Staying married to the same person is not easy for a lot of reasons. A basic question to answer - are you better with her or without her? Good luck.
Edited by Chuck E (10/30/11 01:18 PM)
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#714193 - 10/30/11 06:15 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: Chuck E]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 02/03/09
Posts: 231
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I have only been married 3 1/2 years, but I will add the following:
1. If you are going to go fishing, just tell her that you are going fishing. Whatever you do, DO NOT ASK HER IF YOU CAN GO FISHING!
2. If she objects to you going fishing (remember, you didn't ask, you just told her that you are going) without an honest to God important reason, then just go. No one likes a push over.
2. Do not talk about fishing or your fishing trips when you are spending time with her. That is your time together, and she will want you to be focused having fun with her, not on fishing. An exception to this would be if she, for example, inquires about your most recent fishing trip. In this case, she actually wants to talk about fishing.
4. Know when to go and when to not go fishing. As I am a sure that you have already guessed, this means important holidays and events. Sometimes its best to just attend some of those events even though you would rather not. Especially if your attendance at such an event really means something to her.
5. If you would rather do what you want, when you want, and where you want, then stay single. All you need is just a handful of women who are comfortable with their non-commital relationship with you.
Edited by SkykomishSunrise (10/30/11 06:43 PM)
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#714323 - 10/31/11 01:38 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: eyeFISH]
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Registered: 02/02/04
Posts: 2237
Loc: N of Seattle
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As for the Closer...
Dude, you're screwed!
Take it from someone who knows.
Cut yer losses while yer ahead and get a court date. Fixed it for ya
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#714385 - 10/31/11 01:04 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
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Be a man. Learn to control your biotch.
My wife started the whining after marriage and I responded I've been fishing my entire life, it's my way of life and you knew that so don't ask me to choose. She knows I won't give it up so the choice is hers...leave or deal with it. Anyone who tries to make you give up what you like is dead weight. If you can make it that far old age mellows them out a bit.
Most women really dig eating seafood. So learn to cook it to perfection and they'll be begging for more. If she still whines then slap her a bit and see if that works. I haven't tried that so let me know.
Mostly the guys I see on their way to divorce are the ones who stay out fishing all day or are constantly gone on trips. Myself I can be on the river or sound at day light and be home before she wakes up.
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#714392 - 10/31/11 01:25 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: seastrike]
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 1819
Loc: Wenatchee, WA
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My favorite line from the ex wife... "There is always another [censored] opening day! Why don't they have duck/pheasant/fish/deer/elk/springers/steelhead open on the same day! Some man thought of this goddamn schedule!" Slam door. We must of been married to the same one! I heard that line multiple times. I just wore her down eventually, even though she hunted and fished with me for 17yrs. She was one of the better partners I ever had, but she was ready for somebody she could control.
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#714394 - 10/31/11 01:26 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: seastrike]
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The Tide changed
Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7084
Loc: Everett
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My favorite line from the ex wife... "There is always another [censored] opening day! Why don't they have duck/pheasant/fish/deer/elk/springers/steelhead open on the same day! Some man thought of this goddamn schedule!" Slam door.
Good one Dave, I've heard the same thing from my lady in different words... How to get enough fishing time in? ....It isnt as easy as saying, "bitch, I'm going fishing" when you have kids, a sexy wife, a house, Parents that need help...& tons of stuff that needs doing all the time. If you insist on going fishing when all those responsibilities are unattended and still on the table, ask your divorced fishing buddies here how well that works out. I stole a term from Brian and build up my "domestic credit" bank ....then cash in when needed. Take care of your sh!t, and let her know your are taking care of your sh!t....then go fishing.
Edited by Sky-Guy (10/31/11 01:34 PM)
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#714404 - 10/31/11 01:40 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: Sky-Guy]
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 1819
Loc: Wenatchee, WA
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Well said SkyGuy! I call it "deposits in the emotional bank account". I've changed some with wife #2.
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#714410 - 10/31/11 01:55 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: snit]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 12/15/02
Posts: 4000
Loc: Ahhhhh, damn dog!
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I told my wife BEFORE we got married, " I could give up fishing and hunting but that means I would have to take up drinking and chasing woman again". I have never heard a word from her about it except for catch some fish or good luck hunting!
Fishy
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#714415 - 10/31/11 02:07 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: snit]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 02/14/06
Posts: 2533
Loc: Elma
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We are missing a key component of this story. How hot is your fiancee? Hotness always tips the scales in her favor.
Sky Guy has it. Before you have kids it is easy to stay ahead of the domestic duties. Once they arrive, holy Sh!t! It is a ton of effort. My advice is to do the work when you are off the river. If you do your part and still get the business when you are home then you may be in an irreparable situation.
I am in my office this Monday morning, completely burnt out from the weekend. I started my work day Friday morning at 6, wound up on the river later in the morning+, back in the office in the afternoon, took my wife out Friday night* then to the football game*, coached soccer on sat morning*, helped dress the kids in their costumes*, made dip and took whole family to a halloween party Sat night*, fished Sunday morning+, came home and painted shutters*, helped with laundry*, made lunches*, cleaned kitchen*, finally at 10 pm processed all the fish from the week, cured eggs and at 11pm parts of my wife's cowgirl costume showed back up $ HOLLA!
Count the *stars in the above paragraph, in my mind I try to have 2x more * than + so that I still get $. Find the balance with your girlfriend, and if it is too hard on you, bounce.
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#714419 - 10/31/11 02:18 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: Sky-Guy]
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
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I stole a term from Brian and build up my "domestic credit" bank ....then cash in when needed.
Domestic credit bank = kitchen pass.
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#714446 - 10/31/11 03:17 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: Dan S.]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
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Set the bar too high and you'll regret it in the long run.
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#714463 - 10/31/11 04:20 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: ClearCreek]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27840
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Didn't read all the responses, so sorry if this is a repeat of others' experiences, but here's mine... I don't take my g/f fishing. I don't ask for permission, I give notice. I don't have to explain myself, because I explained it all at the beginning, and showed exactly what I explained by demonstration soon afterwards, and often since. I make plans to do stuff with her on some weekends, and when I make plans, I keep them...I do not blow her off, or go fishing instead of doing what I said I'd do, which is hang out with her. I told her right from the get go how important it is, and she's got no excuse to question me about it now. She's also smart and wonderful and knows that a happy Todd is better to be with half the time than an unhappy Todd would be all of the time. It helps that she loves eating fish, and loves that I love to cook it for her  The fact of the matter is, there is no "begging" or "reasoning" that can get you out of this mess once you are in it...you either go fishing, or you don't...and it's not up to her, it's up to you. I've gotten in and out of relationships for a wide variety of reasons...but my fishing time has NEVER been one of them. Fish on... Todd
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#714583 - 10/31/11 11:53 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: The Closer]
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clown flocker
Registered: 10/19/09
Posts: 3731
Loc: Water
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I don't think she would have to hard a time finding a replacement for you if you decide the boat/fishing is more important.
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#714601 - 11/01/11 01:50 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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The Tide changed
Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7084
Loc: Everett
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Alrighty Closer, she IS worth fighting for. Let your PP brethren help you out with this dilemma. First, have you used any of our lines or techniques on her yet? Have they worked? If not, tell her we need some feedback so you can post it online and get some more advice. Then she might think, "hey, I don't want him talking about our personal shi.t with a bunch of greasy fishermen online. Maybe I'll just keep my mouth shut from now on!" If that doesnt work, Then lets go with plan B. Which is ...plan time with her, a date, something fun, etc. then as soon as the glow wears off a little, but not all the way, spring some fishing dates on her...that way, she wont feel second to fishing, she'll feel first. Got it? ok, you go boy! report back with more pics, too  Of her 
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#714604 - 11/01/11 02:01 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: hybridcx]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4317
Loc: South Sound
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Been married for 30+ happy years and fish plenty. The key to all good relationships (from the guy's perspective) - SET LOW EXPECTATIONS at the beginning. If they don't tolerate you fishing at the beginning, there's no hope later. +1 and I married a girl from forks, was nothing new to her... Yep. Best thing to do if they don't fish is to try to get them into it. Do all the grunt work to make it fun for them. My wife went fishing with me on her due date. At 11pm.
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#714606 - 11/01/11 02:05 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: Irie]
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 1819
Loc: Wenatchee, WA
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Looks like Chelan? With the BMW hat and the backdrop you need a bigger boat and a second home on the lake. Cute GF. Good luck....you have to live with your decisions. Good advice here..just got to sort through through the chaff
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#714617 - 11/01/11 04:14 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: snit]
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WINNER
Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
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Hmmm......nice looking gal, for sure.......doesn't have the "outdoors" look, tho. White shirt? Nail job?.....you got your work cut out for you, bud.
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#714638 - 11/01/11 10:45 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: snit]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 08/12/08
Posts: 169
Loc: Puyallup, WA
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Looks like Chelan? With the BMW hat and the backdrop you need a bigger boat and a second home on the lake. Cute GF. Good luck....you have to live with your decisions. Good advice here..just got to sort through through the chaff You are correct. My family has a cabin on the water near manson. Pretty nice during the summer. The only problem is, I do not have a boat, yet! Maybe this year I'll make a few more friends who have a boat and are looking to slay some mackinaw and smallmouth. Trade off, stay at my cabin on the water! Win win! The problem we have is we live about an hour away from eachother (hopefully change here in the next year) which makes it tough to see eachother during the week. Long story, but she has to come south to see me during the week. I usually go north on the weekends. And when I want to go fishing, whatever the reason... new rain, invited on a boat last minute, etc. its hard to jump on the opportunity when its not planned a week in advance. I told her from now until January 31, 2012, plan on me fishing every sunday. So she can't say I didn't tell her  My way of overcoming her objection. All in all, we've made it 3 years and are continuing to get better. Just takes a lot of communication and understanding the others needs. Being in a relationship does take sacrifice, however there are also a lot of benefits. For me, the benefits of this relationship outweigh the sacrifices. PS This topic seems to hit home for a lot of you! Hence the 5 star rating!
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#714650 - 11/01/11 11:54 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: Todd]
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6216
Loc: zipper
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I don't have to explain myself, because I explained it all at the beginning, and showed exactly what I explained by demonstration soon afterwards, and often since.
I make plans to do stuff with her on some weekends, and when I make plans, I keep them...I do not blow her off, or go fishing instead of doing what I said I'd do, which is hang out with her.
you either go fishing, or you don't...and it's not up to her, it's up to you.
Todd
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#714677 - 11/01/11 01:10 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: fish4brains]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 02/14/06
Posts: 2533
Loc: Elma
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Thanks The Closer. This thread makes much more sense now.
You should quit fishing.
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#714679 - 11/01/11 01:23 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: Rocket Red]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 08/12/08
Posts: 169
Loc: Puyallup, WA
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Thanks The Closer. This thread makes much more sense now.
You should quit fishing. Never!
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#714749 - 11/01/11 05:17 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: ClearCreek]
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Alevin
Registered: 04/07/11
Posts: 10
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I just never got the "I have to ask her/him before i____."
I would approach this issue by explaining the importance of the activity to you. In my mind, marriage doesn't entitle anyone to be mom/dad, jailer, ball and chain, nag, the ol man/lady. It is an equal partnership, not a jail sentence in which one has to ask "Permission". Now obviously, some things are not negotiable in my mind, and deal breakers, but crap... working 60+ hours a week, dealing with all the stress we all have to bear these days, we all need some sort of relief valve.
Second marriage for me. I thought about the things that made me happy, then luckily found a SO that enjoys the same things. Very fortunate, maybe, but i wasnt' looking for a golfer, soccer player etc. i dont like those things and dont do them. Hookin up with some one who does would have been gravely inconsiderate on my part. Married 20 years, and having a blast.
by the looks of the picture, she not only can run a boat, but appears to enjoy it... I think you are closer than you think to a resolution. Maybe its just that if you are hopping a ride, obviously she cant go along all the time, and probably doesnt want to but she feels left out. ask her, perfectly understandable. Get yourselves a boat for a wedding present... and take her fishin...after of course you have a serious talk.. iron it out before.. because it won't get easier after...
good luck.
Edited by ibfishin2 (11/01/11 05:22 PM)
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#714750 - 11/01/11 05:27 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: ibfishin2]
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Spawner
Registered: 01/22/07
Posts: 746
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#714771 - 11/01/11 06:20 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: ibfishin2]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 08/12/08
Posts: 169
Loc: Puyallup, WA
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I just never got the "I have to ask her/him before i____."
I would approach this issue by explaining the importance of the activity to you. In my mind, marriage doesn't entitle anyone to be mom/dad, jailer, ball and chain, nag, the ol man/lady. It is an equal partnership, not a jail sentence in which one has to ask "Permission". Now obviously, some things are not negotiable in my mind, and deal breakers, but crap... working 60+ hours a week, dealing with all the stress we all have to bear these days, we all need some sort of relief valve.
Second marriage for me. I thought about the things that made me happy, then luckily found a SO that enjoys the same things. Very fortunate, maybe, but i wasnt' looking for a golfer, soccer player etc. i dont like those things and dont do them. Hookin up with some one who does would have been gravely inconsiderate on my part. Married 20 years, and having a blast.
by the looks of the picture, she not only can run a boat, but appears to enjoy it... I think you are closer than you think to a resolution. Maybe its just that if you are hopping a ride, obviously she cant go along all the time, and probably doesnt want to but she feels left out. ask her, perfectly understandable. Get yourselves a boat for a wedding present... and take her fishin...after of course you have a serious talk.. iron it out before.. because it won't get easier after...
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#714783 - 11/01/11 06:45 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 10/20/10
Posts: 1263
Loc: Seattle
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The key is to bang them at every opportunity . Your answer to every thought or question they might have is to screw them. If they walk too slow around the house you will catch them and screw them. Do this and you will never have problems with a woman. End of lesson.
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#714785 - 11/01/11 06:49 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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Hippie
Registered: 01/31/02
Posts: 4450
Loc: B'ham
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I didn't bother reading through all the replies but I know this is a concern to many hardcore fishermen. My basic rules: 1. Be yourself. You probably were before so just keep doing that. 2. Be honest with her about what you want and what you need. Neither of you has to get all of what you want but you both have to get what you need. Maybe fishing a certain amount is one of your "needs". It is one of mine. 3. Get her involved but do it in a smart way. Don't take her fishing in crappy weather or when the fishing is likely to be tremendously slow. Make sure she realizes it is about MORE than the fishing. It is about getting outside, seeing some rivers, eagles, and maybe taking some nice photos. 4. Kind of related to #3 is buy her GOOD gear. Down, Gortex, gloves, hats, and those little hand warmers can go along way. 5. Learn to read the signs. Relationships are kind of like driving and you must adapt to road conditions. Good luck... to all of us.  -AP
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#714792 - 11/01/11 06:56 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: Us and Them]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 08/12/08
Posts: 169
Loc: Puyallup, WA
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The key is to bang them at every opportunity . Your answer to every thought or question they might have is to screw them. If they walk too slow around the house you will catch them and screw them. Do this and you will never have problems with a woman. End of lesson. I think there is a lot of wisdom here!!
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#715211 - 11/03/11 12:39 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
[Re: The Closer]
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Registered: 02/02/04
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The key is to bang them at every opportunity . Your answer to every thought or question they might have is to screw them. If they walk too slow around the house you will catch them and screw them. Do this and you will never have problems with a woman. End of lesson. I think there is a lot of wisdom here!! Yea but it doesn't leave a lot of time for fishin
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#715468 - 11/03/11 09:54 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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Registered: 01/01/03
Posts: 2190
Loc: Post Falls Idaho
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Closer, if you can't get out of the house for one day to fish and fishing is more important to you than the future wife, well, the handwriting is kind of on the wall isn't it? That is not to say it is right or wrong, but entering a marriage with the hope of changing her mind is mighty risky. Don't ask me how I know.
There is no answer to your question. You can't dictate to her nor can she dictate to you. Marriage is a partnership where the two of you need to work on a compromise, hopefully before saying I do. With that in mind, your fishing days and other joys of bachelor hood will change regardless.
Good luck my friend.
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#717965 - 11/14/11 12:42 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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Spawner
Registered: 03/25/08
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Well dont give in ....women are all different and you are in relationships for different/same reasons. I went through this with my wife for a bit and eventually I wore her down. She realized she cant win. Don't get upset when explaining your reasoning and continue on your way. foolproof. Stick to your guns. Lets go fishin.
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#736540 - 01/28/12 07:46 PM
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
Registered: 08/23/06
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A friend from work just got dragged to IKEA for the third time sine Christmas, he says he hates it, I say "why do you go then?" Reminded me of this thread.
Edited by fish4brains (01/28/12 07:47 PM) Edit Reason: I was looking for balls in a vise but settled for the violin
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#736569 - 01/28/12 11:21 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
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A friend from work just got dragged to IKEA for the third time sine Christmas, he says he hates it, I say "why do you go then?" Reminded me of this thread. Got the ring misplaced?
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#736639 - 01/29/12 05:59 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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Spawner
Registered: 10/26/02
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Loc: Idaho
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Been married for 30+ happy years and fish plenty. The key to all good relationships (from the guy's perspective) - SET LOW EXPECTATIONS at the beginning. If they don't tolerate you fishing at the beginning, there's no hope later. +1000
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#736645 - 01/29/12 07:10 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
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If you are seriously looking for relationship advice on a fishing board, well . . .
Edited by Dave Vedder (01/29/12 07:10 PM)
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#736737 - 01/30/12 12:17 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
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Listen to your elders and practice catch and release.
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#736855 - 01/30/12 10:17 PM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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WINNER
Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
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Way to klingy for me,I'd move on or take up basket weaving.Good luck, SZ How about making up some large yarn "balls"? just an idea...... 
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#736912 - 01/31/12 01:13 AM
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I love me
Registered: 08/22/06
Posts: 1821
Loc: Around the way
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There you go rocket red! The one I'm fighting for!! Ok here are my observations of your high maitenance ultra demanding chick. 1. The hat. Better make a lot of dough,and plan on spending it.On her. 2. The nails. She has to put in a lot of spa time to keep those puppies looking like that. More $$. 3. Too fkn skinny.  Anyway she looks high maintenance. I would suggest to her to stick this in her mouth and shut up. Women are sandbags. Never get married. LOCK IT DOWN!
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#736913 - 01/31/12 01:13 AM
Re: Question for anyone in a relationship...
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I love me
Registered: 08/22/06
Posts: 1821
Loc: Around the way
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BTW I live in California and 90% of the chicks here are plastic money grubbing whores.
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#737165 - 02/01/12 02:56 AM
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I love me
Registered: 08/22/06
Posts: 1821
Loc: Around the way
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BTW I live in California and 90% of the chicks here are plastic money grubbing whores. After getting a look at you, 90% of the chicks in California wouldn't be interested in grubbing you whether you had money or not. I dont doubt that,but with the female population being what it is here,that leaves a WHOLE lot of trashy sluts who will
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#737171 - 02/01/12 04:51 AM
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Registered: 01/27/12
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After getting a look at you, 90% of the chicks in California wouldn't be interested in grubbing you whether you had money or not. good one
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