Fixed it for ya. I'm curious if Slabby has a better suggestion for who should be our President? Certainly can't be one of the Republican front runners, since about all they do is fu.ck themselves.
That's irrelevant since Christy and Obama will never run against each other in a presidential election. So back to my question....who's going to do a better job than what our current POTUS is doing (and actually get elected)? As far as I can tell, there is nobody. Not currently anyways.
To the first part......Just about anybody could do a better job than our present POT57US. To the second part.....it remains to been seen who will be elected. You word your question in such a way that you are supposing you know what the present President is going to do...........do you really think you do know? He hasn't done much that he said he was going to do up to this point that has benefited me. Has he benefited you? And just what has he proposed to do, that will make us better off? Decrease the debt?....or increase it? Has he lived up to the Nobel Peace Prize that he accepted? or is he deploying troops even now? He has chastised both Supreme Court, and China in public. He steps on his dick every time he speaks without a telepromptor.....(which should lead to some very interesting debates, depending on how controlled it is).
OTOH, the R side of the ticket is bleak, IMO. But that doesn't mean that you won't end up with a Republican next go-round. For me, my vote will be a decision I'll make at a later time. And the question that I'll be asking myself and answering with my vote will be, "Which candidate will do the least damage to the country?" I am not even remotely considering that any of the present candidates will make us better off. One thing I won't be doing is blindly following a Party letter.
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#718281 - 11/15/1110:45 AMRe: No, Toddler.....this guy's a genius
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Todd
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Nice post, Slab...but I'll bet you $20 right now that whoever gets the Republican nomination will get your vote, no matter which one of those idiots it is...you're just waiting for them to tell you who to vote for.
Nice post, Slab...but I'll bet you $20 right now that whoever gets the Republican nomination will get your vote, no matter which one of those idiots it is...you're just waiting for them to tell you who to vote for.
Fish on...
Todd
Gee, Todd.....you must be psychotic .....er....psychedelic ......er......
And you know what?......You've got a bet!....(I'll even show you my ballot on the day of reckoning.) You just did what your candidate has been unable to do......gave me a reason to vote for him. And it only took $20. Congrats! It's been a pleasure doing business with you!
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I know it's confusing, but you got the mixed up with Check with the girls, you'll see.
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The fact you'll sell your vote for $20 says a lot about you. (Here is a hint: It isn't that you are a good business man.)
I'm also always surprised by people that say Obama is nothing without a teleprompter. Are you kidding me? You can say a lot of bad things about the man but it is hard to argue with is speaking abilities, teleprompter or not.
Between you, Perry, and Cain, you three couldn't READ off the teleprompter as well as Obama could speak without one.
Now that you mentioned it, not once has Obama spoken and made me wonder, WTF did he just say? I'm very fluent in nonsensical gibberish, having just endured 8 long years of listening to the President of the United States butcher the English language, every time he opened his mouth.
#718411 - 11/15/1108:07 PMRe: No, Toddler.....this guy's a genius
[Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
RowVsWade
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Originally Posted By: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D
I'm also always surprised by people that say Obama is nothing without a teleprompter. Are you kidding me? You can say a lot of bad things about the man but it is hard to argue with is speaking abilities, teleprompter or not.
You're right....Obama's a POS with or without his teleprompter.
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I'm also always surprised by people that say Obama is nothing without a teleprompter. Are you kidding me?
No.
Hank, Bush set the idiot standard so high, I seriously doubt it will ever be challenged again in our lifetime, unless of course one of the Republican candidates becomes President.
#718434 - 11/15/1109:20 PMRe: No, Toddler.....this guy's a genius
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Dave Vedder
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It cracks me up when RWWJs disparage Obama’s lack of impromptu speaking ability. Their darling, George Bush, was, by far, the worst unscripted speaker we have had for president in my lifetime. JFK and Reagan were good. LBJ, Ford, GHWB and Carter were poor. Obama is fair and GWB was simply a pathetic embarrassment.
The only possible reason the RWWjs could have for such silly conclusions it that the idea has been repeatedly force fed to them by the conservative media. Clearly independent thinking escapes many who simply parrot what the talking heads tell them.
Their darling, George Bush, was, by far, the worst unscripted speaker we have had for president in my lifetime.
The sad truth is that gwb actually had notes on 3X5 cards during his speeches, and he still screwed them up. Every president since LBJ has used teleprompters, as has every gop candidate. Except Cain.... and that speaks for itself.
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Maybe someone here could explain his/her support of the "beer summit"......or have you forgotten? Right out of the box, Mr. "Oh, man!", jumps into a cop/friend fray as negotiator with a beer. How very Mr. President of him. Of course we shall forget the Chicago stumping as an Olympic site as well, shall we? That fell way short of the mark, I believe. I seem to recall a "present" for the Queen that was quite Presidential, as well.
What is ridiculous is the apparent undying dedication exhibited by the noisiest on the Left that not only can't stomach hearing anything negative about Mr. Not-so Presidential, they likewise can't mouth the truth when it's put right in front of them.
What I posted on the opening of this thread was received by me in an e-mail. Einstein is one of my favorite historical figures. The "quote" was not generated by me, but I thought the concept was hilarious. Some saw the humor.....others tried to make a huge issue out of the "sacrilege" of making fun of the President, so the Third grade name-calling began.......and now here we are.
Aren't we the proud examples of acceptance, tolerance, and diversity? I think it would be a good thing to just lighten up a little.....especially since what you and I say and do here has about as much chance of making a difference as stealing a bucket of sand from the beach.
what's that bumper sticker say......"Wag more, Bark less"..... we don't have to be enemies.
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"what's that bumper sticker say."....."Wag more, Bark less".....
I saw one yesterday that said, "Vote Republican, it's much easier than thinking".
That IS interesting......because if you do think about it, it says exactly the same thing about Democrats. aka, it's saying vote straight Dem....how much "thinking" is involved with that?
Edited by Slab Happy (11/15/1110:59 PM)
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#718456 - 11/15/1111:08 PMRe: No, Toddler.....this guy's a genius
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RowVsWade
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Originally Posted By: freespool
I saw one yesterday that said, "Vote Republican, it's much easier than thinking".
Agreed!
So called "free-thinkers" elected the current POS. Those that "think" they're enlightened...those that "think" they're socially conscious....those that "think" killing an unborn baby is ok....those that "think" phvcking someone of the same sex is deserving of special rights....those that "think" their war is better than the other guys' war......on and on ad nauseum.
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I saw one yesterday that said, "Vote Republican, it's much easier than thinking".
Agreed!
So called "free-thinkers" elected the current POS. Those that "think" they're enlightened...those that "think" they're socially conscious....those that "think" killing an unborn baby is ok....those that "think" phvcking someone of the same sex is deserving of special rights....those that "think" their war is better than the other guys' war......on and on ad nauseum.
#718472 - 11/15/1111:54 PMRe: No, Toddler.....this guy's a genius
[Re: Jerry Garcia]
Dave Vedder
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
I really don't hear much talk about what a good job Obama is doing. All I hear is that Bush was worse.
I certainly do not think Obama is doing a good job. But yes, Bush was much worse. This seems particularly relevant when Rs criticize Obama’s speaking ability after giving us the worst public speaker in modern times.
#718478 - 11/16/1112:03 AMRe: No, Toddler.....this guy's a genius
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Dan S.
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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RvW "thinks" he isn't a dumbass.
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For those with no recollection of just how stupid our last President really was, here's a quick recap.
50. "I promise you I will listen to what has been said here, even though I wasn't here." -at the President's Economic Forum in Waco, Texas, Aug. 13, 2002
49. "We spent a lot of time talking about Africa, as we should. Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease." -Gothenburg, Sweden, June 14, 2001
48. "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.'' -Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001
47. "We both use Colgate toothpaste." -after a reporter asked what he had in common with British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Camp David, Md., Feb. 23, 2001
46. "Tribal sovereignty means that; it's sovereign. I mean, you're a - you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And therefore the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities." -Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004
45. "I glance at the headlines just to kind of get a flavor for what's moving. I rarely read the stories, and get briefed by people who are probably read the news themselves." -Washington, D.C., Sept. 21, 2003
44. "I'm the commander - see, I don't need to explain - I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being president." -as quoted in Bob Woodward's Bush at War
43. "I am here to make an announcement that this Thursday, ticket counters and airplanes will fly out of Ronald Reagan Airport." -Washington, D.C., Oct. 3, 2001
42. "The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize himself." -Grand Rapids, Mich., Jan. 29, 2003
41. "I saw a poll that said the right track/wrong track in Iraq was better than here in America. It's pretty darn strong. I mean, the people see a better future." -Washington, D.C., Sept. 23, 2004
40. "Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties." -discussing the Iraq war with Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson, as quoted by Robertson
39. "I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." -presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004
38. "Haven't we already given money to rich people? Why are we going to do it again?" -to economic advisers discussing a second round of tax cuts, as quoted by former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neil, Washington, D.C., Nov. 26, 2002
37. "We need an energy bill that encourages consumption." -Trenton, N.J., Sept. 23, 2002
36. "After standing on the stage, after the debates, I made it very plain, we will not have an all-volunteer army. And yet, this week - we will have an all-volunteer army!" -Daytona Beach, Fla., Oct. 16, 2004
35. "Do you have blacks, too?" -to Brazilian President Fernando Cardoso, Washington, D.C., Nov. 8, 2001
34. "This foreign policy stuff is a little frustrating." -as quoted by the New York Daily News, April 23, 2002
33. "I got to know Ken Lay when he was head of the - what they call the Governor's Business Council in Texas. He was a supporter of Ann Richards in my run in 1994. And she had named him the head of the Governor's Business Council. And I decided to leave him in place, just for the sake of continuity. And that's when I first got to know Ken and worked with Ken." -attempting to distance himself from his biggest political patron, Enron Chairman Ken Lay, whom he nicknamed "Kenny Boy," Washington, D.C., Jan. 10, 2002
32. "It is white." -after being asked by a child in Britain what the White House was like, July 19, 2001
31. "I couldn't imagine somebody like Osama bin Laden understanding the joy of Hanukkah." -at a White House menorah lighting ceremony, Washington, D.C., Dec. 10, 2001
30. "For every fatal shooting, there were roughly three non-fatal shootings. And, folks, this is unacceptable in America. It's just unacceptable. And we're going to do something about it." -Philadelphia, Penn., May 14, 2001
39. "I don't know why you're talking about Sweden. They're the neutral one. They don't have an army." -during a Dec. 2002 Oval Office meeting with Rep. Tom Lantos, as reported by the New York Times
28. "You forgot Poland." -to Sen. John Kerry during the first presidential debate, after Kerry failed to mention Poland's contributions to the Iraq war coalition, Miami, Fla., Sept. 30, 2004
27. "I'm the master of low expectations." -aboard Air Force One, June 4, 2003
26. "I'm also not very analytical. You know I don't spend a lot of time thinking about myself, about why I do things." -aboard Air Force One, June 4, 2003
25. "I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe - I believe what I believe is right." -Rome, Italy, July 22, 2001
24. "We need to counter the shockwave of the evildoer by having individual rate cuts accelerated and by thinking about tax rebates." -Washington, D.C. Oct. 4, 2001
23. "People say, how can I help on this war against terror? How can I fight evil? You can do so by mentoring a child; by going into a shut-in's house and say I love you." -Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2002
22. "I wish you'd have given me this written question ahead of time so I could plan for it. I'm sure something will pop into my head here in the midst of this press conference, with all the pressure of trying to come up with answer, but it hadn't yet. I don't want to sound like I have made no mistakes. I'm confident I have. I just haven't - you just put me under the spot here, and maybe I'm not as quick on my feet as I should be in coming up with one." -President George W. Bush, after being asked to name the biggest mistake he had made, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2004
21. "The really rich people figure out how to dodge taxes anyway." -explaining why high taxes on the rich are a failed strategy, Annandale, Va., Aug. 9, 2004
20. "My plan reduces the national debt, and fast. So fast, in fact, that economists worry that we're going to run out of debt to retire." -radio address, Feb. 24, 2001
19. "You know, when I was one time campaigning in Chicago, a reporter said, 'Would you ever have a deficit?' I said, 'I can't imagine it, but there would be one if we had a war, or a national emergency, or a recession.' Never did I dream we'd get the trifecta." -Houston, Texas, June 14, 2002
18. "See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction." -Milwaukee, Wis., Oct. 3, 2003
17. "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." -State of the Union Address, Jan. 28, 2003, making a claim that administration officials knew at the time to be false
16. "In Iraq, no doubt about it, it's tough. It's hard work. It's incredibly hard." -repeating the phrases "hard work," "working hard," "hard choices," and other "hard"-based verbiage 22 times in his first debate with Sen. John Kerry
15. "The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." -Washington, D.C., Sept. 13, 2001
14. "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." -Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002
13. "But all in all, it's been a fabulous year for Laura and me." -summing up his first year in office, three months after the 9/11 attacks, Washington, D.C., Dec. 20, 2001
12. "I try to go for longer runs, but it's tough around here at the White House on the outdoor track. It's sad that I can't run longer. It's one of the saddest things about the presidency." -interview with "Runners World," Aug. 2002
11. "Can we win? I don't think you can win it." -after being asked whether the war on terror was winnable, "Today" show interview, Aug. 30, 2004
10. "I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace." -Washington, D.C. June 18, 2002
9. "I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job." -to a group of Amish he met with privately, July 9, 2004
8. "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." -speaking underneath a "Mission Accomplished" banner aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, May 1, 2003
7. "We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories And we'll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." -Washington, D.C., May 30, 2003
6. "Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere!" -President George W. Bush, as he narrated a comic slideshow during the Radio & TV Correspondents' Association dinner, Washington, D.C., March 24, 2004
5. "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." -Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000
4. "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again." -Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
3. "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." -Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004
2. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." -Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
1. "My answer is bring them on." -on Iraqi insurgents attacking U.S. forces, Washington, D.C., July 3, 2003
#718510 - 11/16/1108:23 AMRe: No, Toddler.....this guy's a genius
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During his press conference in Hawaii, President Obama referenced being "here in Asia." As Americans know, Hawaii is the 50th state, admitted to the Union on Aug. 21, 1959. Mr. Obama also lists Hawaii as his birthplace, which makes his reference even more curious. So, is Hawaii part of Asia?
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Hilarious how people still cry and whine over the last president ... guess it proves that the current hasn't done anything to give them a chance to cheer over?
laughable at best.
No its horrific that we first put the guy in charge of the largest corporation on the planet (The United State of America) that had a string of 7 bankruptcy's. The only business Bush was involved in that did not go bankrupt was the Texas Rangers and he was only let in because of his daddy and was a minor investor at best. We put a chronic loser in charge and will deal with his losing legacy for years.
What would be hilarious, were not so tragic is that the people who put Bush in office fail to recognize just how disastrous he was.
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