#740077 - 02/11/12 01:27 PM
Situk trip advice.
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With all the vacation talk on the board I thought now would be a good time to ask for some advice. My father and I have a trip booked with GBL to fish the Situk river the first week of May ( my first Ak trip but not my pops). 2 days are self guided. We are planning on fishing floats and hardware mostly. Jigs or beads under the floats. Spoons and spinners for the hardware.
Anyone have any suggestions to lures, colors or techniques? This will be my first time traveling by air with gear. Any tips there? I have been watching Youtube vids to get a feel for the river before we get there. It looks a bit different than the rivers I am used to here in Snohomish county.
Thanks.
Edited by Dub (02/11/12 01:28 PM)
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#740080 - 02/11/12 01:53 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: Dub]
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Registered: 07/11/08
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Loc: alaska and washington
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Its lots different. Be ready to fish really small gear, or bigger stuff if there is rain. Watch out for the griz and moose.
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#740084 - 02/11/12 01:59 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: Dub]
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ExtenZe Field Tester
Registered: 11/10/09
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Loc: Vancouver, WA
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I had more fun with the Hali when I was there two years ago in May. The Situk was low and clear. It's a small, meandering river. Similar to a midwest steelhead river.
Float and jig is a good choice. You could back some plugs into a few spots. Roll some worms. A size 3 French (Blue Fox type) would be about right for me.
If it's not happening on the Situk book a flight on the mail plane with Jad for your second free day. (sightseeing on the cheap) If you want to spend a little more ask about a "fly out". I'm not sure what fisheries are available in that time frame.
IMO, too early in the season to rent a skiff unless you like to monkey with small bottomfish.
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#740087 - 02/11/12 02:08 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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We did get the steelhead package which includes a day on the salt for butts and bottomfish.
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#740089 - 02/11/12 02:14 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 7841
Loc: West Duvall
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I would love to tell ya but BFD and I will be there a week or so after you and I don't want you soremouthing all the fish. Seriously, here are a few things I have learned from a few trips there. The river is chock full of sunken wood. You will lose gear - lots of it. Floats help. Go with heavy leaders. They are not leader shy and that heavy leader will save you some retying. If its low, think floats and jigs 1/16 ounce. I make my own Situk specials. Not fancy ties but they work. Note the colors. Nuff said.   Also it's a VERY long float. Do not fish marginal water. Do not waste time. In May the days are long, but you will still be taking out in the dark if you are not careful. I always find more and better fish in bottom end. Some days i have just rowed thru the first six miles.
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#740092 - 02/11/12 02:20 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: Dub]
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ExtenZe Field Tester
Registered: 11/10/09
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We did get the steelhead package which includes a day on the salt for butts and bottomfish. We busted a$$ all day looking for butts and finally found them on a hump in 78 feet of water. I got a 121# and a 110# Beautiful, deep bodied fish. If you know how to backbounce you'll have an advantage. Similar to sturgeon fishing, if you've ever done that. I think that the butts are easier to get hooked up. Although your guide will want you to get that precious lead off the bottom. With lead laying on the bottom, the boat swings and the lead hangs up. I disobeyed my guide and bounced and caught. We had two whiners on the other side of the boat complain to the captain and he asked me to switch sides with the whiners ! One was a salmon guide from Craig and one was a n00b (puker) from Canby, OR. Neither one of them knew how to backbounce.
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#740133 - 02/11/12 07:01 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: fish4brains]
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 01/31/05
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Loc: Yakutat
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Last year we fished nothing but trout beads and whcked the crap out of them at every bend. The year before that, floats and jigs seemed best. Both years were low clear water but it seems that the lower in the river the small trout bead type lures work good. There are quite a few clients that will fish nothing but aeropuffs in any type water and they catch the crap out of them so size does not seem to matter as much as finding the packs of newer fish moving, they will hit anything that looks good. Stay on the move and fish as you drift, we catch as many on the move as anchored up. Feeding a trout bead or small drift rig under the pog jambs is a gas, getting them out once you hook up is another story, but why not!
I will be there May 12th through the 20th, I think Mr. Vedder will be there about the same time.
Dub--When is your trip? If we are there at the same time, we will tip a few together,,,on me of course!
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#740147 - 02/11/12 07:37 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: GBL]
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May 3rd thru the 8th.
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#740149 - 02/11/12 07:46 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: GBL]
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Ranger Danger
Registered: 02/08/07
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Loc: Talkeetna, AK
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Feeding a trout bead or small drift rig under the pog jambs is a gas, Is a pog jamb similar to a lof jag?  Haven't been down to check the situk out yet. Tough time of year for me as the first half of my busy season is well underway at that point. Couple of pals locally make the trip just about every year and do well with beads and glo bugs...imagine that! If they are anything like the peninsula steelhead up here, most colors work, some work really well. Sounds like a fun time down there. Might have to sneak out for a long weekend one year when the boss isn't looking.
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#740189 - 02/12/12 08:36 AM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: ColeyG]
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I'll be up there that first week as well. Planning on lots of beads, yarnies, and I'll have to get some smaller jigs tied up. I've got quite the selection of midwest-sized floats, which are gonna run great with the pin
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#740295 - 02/12/12 06:28 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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Thanks Dave! I am excited as it is! I have dreamed of Alaska for decades. Your reccomendations are partially why we are going. Robbo spoke highly of GBL also when my parents fished with him last summer.
GBl, will do.
We are fishing the first day guided so I am sure we will be set straight. I just wanted to make sure we had the right tackle for the rest of the trip.
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#740352 - 02/13/12 06:18 AM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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Loc: Lake Stevens
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We will be up there that same week this year. Pink/White & Orange/White Jigs
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#740356 - 02/13/12 06:55 AM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: CraigO]
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
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Loc: West Duvall
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As alluded to earlier bring the good sunglasses. You will see pods of moving fish if you are looking for them. If they are not disturbed they will bite. But as Stam once said. "It's hard to hook a fish that is fleeing in terror."
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#740377 - 02/13/12 10:36 AM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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I have always thought in most situations i I can see the fish it can see. And that usually is a bad thing.
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#740395 - 02/13/12 12:39 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: CraigO]
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Creepy Cat Guy
Registered: 10/12/11
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We will be up there that same week this year. Pink/White & Orange/White Jigs Right on Craig! That is super exciting. Gonna be a blast up there!
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#740472 - 02/13/12 06:52 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: Dub]
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
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I have always thought in most situations i I can see the fish it can see. And that usually is a bad thing. Definately not so on the Situk. Several times we have spotted packs of fish and hooked three or more from the pack.
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#740776 - 02/14/12 09:59 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: Dave Vedder]
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I do want to upgrade my sunglasses. I want to get lenses to cover the different lighting during the day. What I use currently are too dark for overcast and morning. They are also worn out a bit.
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#741270 - 02/16/12 10:54 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: Dub]
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Registered: 01/20/02
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Loc: Chehalis Wa
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I was up there 3 years ago may 11-17 and it was lights out on jigs even left a few at the lodge for some of the guides. We found that the spring fish would crush just about anything in front of them. It was the big brutes that had been in the river for awhile that were gear shy. We found the greens and blues in the egg sucking leech patterns worked for the shy fish. Also fished the salt water for salmon on our charter day with a hog over 40lbs.
Edited by Wernergonefishin (02/16/12 10:54 PM)
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#741311 - 02/17/12 10:21 AM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: Dub]
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Ranger Danger
Registered: 02/08/07
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Loc: Talkeetna, AK
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I do want to upgrade my sunglasses. I want to get lenses to cover the different lighting during the day. What I use currently are too dark for overcast and morning. They are also worn out a bit. Check out something with photochromic/photochromatic lenses. I really like the Tifosi Dolomites as fishing glasses. I think Doc had a pair that he recommended as well.
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#742126 - 02/20/12 08:45 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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Registered: 01/01/05
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Dave is right, nothing better than seeing a dozen fish, casting close and seeing a chromer turn and smoke your lure! Not much beats that..sounds like good times
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#750486 - 03/28/12 08:10 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: N W Panhandler]
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I did get a pair of the Tifosi Ventoux with their Fototec lenses. They are nice. They would work for mornings-overcast on through full sun without having to change lenses.
My only problem is they give me a headache. Its not the glasses. I have had the problem with others. Even some clear safety glasses will do it.
Photochromatic lenses do seem to be the way to go. I will be looking at other brands. I did try on some Smiths this afternoon but think I will have the same problem.
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#750657 - 03/29/12 05:03 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: CraigO]
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Edited by stam (03/29/12 05:05 PM)
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#750660 - 03/29/12 05:10 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: stam]
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 7841
Loc: West Duvall
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WTF is that on KKs knee?
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#750664 - 03/29/12 05:25 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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Parr
Registered: 11/17/05
Posts: 66
Loc: Kenai, AK
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I Advise following Bob's updates on the road progress on his situk river website, my buddy on the road clearing crew says its ugly, they switched to clearing the lower landing road because efforts on 9 mile were slow and hampered by more snow, the goal was by april 15th, rumors milling about that it may be last week of april now. So I would stay in tune. See you on the river.
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#750681 - 03/29/12 07:20 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
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Loc: West Duvall
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The photographer in me is eager to see some big snowbanks behind anglers with big steelhead.
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#750709 - 03/29/12 08:31 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: ColeyG]
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
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I do want to upgrade my sunglasses. I want to get lenses to cover the different lighting during the day. What I use currently are too dark for overcast and morning. They are also worn out a bit. Check out something with photochromic/photochromatic lenses. I really like the Tifosi Dolomites as fishing glasses. I think Doc had a pair that he recommended as well. If you're looking for an "all purpose" lens, I would recommend copper. Sometimes mine are not quite dark enough in very bright sunlight, but for overcast or low light they are great. I had Smith's which are photochromic but then got some Costa's with the 580 glass lenses and I will say that even though they are not photochromic, the quality of the lens is superior.
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#754605 - 04/18/12 04:10 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
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Loc: West Duvall
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Saw a report yesterday that they are gaining about 1/2 mile a day. Should be there within a week.
Google Situk reports. It was in one of the hits that came up from that search.
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#754640 - 04/18/12 07:09 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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THe fly shop blog says DOT says should be done by the end of the weekend. That includes the turn around and parking at 9 mile bridge.
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#754681 - 04/19/12 08:06 AM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: Dub]
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#754764 - 04/19/12 12:10 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: stam]
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 7841
Loc: West Duvall
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When are you there Stamley? We arrive May 14.
Sore mouth all ya want. there are always more coming.
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#754811 - 04/19/12 02:42 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 7841
Loc: West Duvall
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Jeesh. With so few steelhead and so many anglers, I hope we get a shot at a few!! Tell ya what. You guys stay on the top half and we will stay on the bottom. I heard that they are flooding into the lower river as I type.
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#754840 - 04/19/12 04:10 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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ExtenZe Field Tester
Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 4403
Loc: Vancouver, WA
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I alway's have liked it on bottom so I'm gonna stay the course.Just sayin...........Good luck, SZ What is this, one of those kinky, Bangkok-type sex junkets ? 
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#759037 - 05/10/12 09:05 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: Sebastes]
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Here is a pic of a Glacier Bear from our trip. I will post a few more pics later. We didn't catch much. 
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#759048 - 05/10/12 09:53 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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We did have a good time the lodge is nice and people are friendly. We had trouble with the steelhead but it sounds like we weren't the only ones by a long shot. There were people catchin fish though. I did meet CraigO the night before his last day. I am waiting for his report.
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#759148 - 05/11/12 02:37 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 12/29/99
Posts: 1080
Loc: Vancouver, Washington
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I've never been to the Situk, but every pic I've ever seen of that river reminds me of the steelhead rivers I used to fish back in Michigan - a small, slow meandering river, lots of woody debris, and snow everywhere. And lots of steelhead.
But the Situk doesn't have hatchery steelhead and Michigan doesn't have grizzly bears....
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#759274 - 05/12/12 12:06 AM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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Parr
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Loc: Kenai, AK
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#759275 - 05/12/12 12:36 AM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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Loc: Kenai, AK
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#759277 - 05/12/12 12:50 AM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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Parr
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Loc: Kenai, AK
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Passed up several smaller brown bears, and had a few blown stalks on the blacks  cruising  trolling with Bobby  emergency repairs glassing the boat before the trip  Hubbard Glacier  Gary glassin for Seals to shoot on the ice
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#760782 - 05/19/12 11:47 AM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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We went out in the salt the first day because a storm was coming. Dad got a 80 and 64. I caught two 35's.   Dad's 64. Don't think he wanted to hold up the 80.  The next day we went down the river guided. It was a cold and rainy day. 2 fish landed.  I have never stuck my hands in 35 degree water before. COLD!  Blanked the 3rd day. Rained all day. Never let up. It was also my first time rowing a drift boat. An interesting experience to say the least. I imagine it is a lot easier than our rivers.  The last day was pretty nice. We were out of our raingear most the day. The river was up over 500cfm though. We did not see many fish and the ones we did see were dark. We each caught one fish but did not get pics. The first day down the river we did get these pics of a bear I think I posted before.   Overall I enjoyed the trip. It was my first to Alaska. The lodge was great. I hope to make it back soon. You just can't do much about the late winter like we had this year.
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#760785 - 05/19/12 11:56 AM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: Dub]
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Here is the wild and raging Situk Falls.  Don't blink. There are 3 other videos on the photobucket album. One of the 80lb butt fight. One of the flat straight road to 9 mile and one of random river bank to show some of the logs and shoreline.
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#760897 - 05/20/12 02:35 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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Thanks Erik. I did hear a rumor a hunter got it as we left. Glad I got to see it. I wish I had the time and money, I would be headed right back up. Alaska gets in the blood.
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#760899 - 05/20/12 02:51 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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I wasn't sick. That was Mr. Vedders trip. Thank you tho.
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#761154 - 05/22/12 12:16 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
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Loc: West Duvall
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Ike, You know it always kills. Wanna tie me up a few dozen more? 
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#761158 - 05/22/12 12:28 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: Dub]
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Here is the wild and raging Situk Falls.  Don't blink. Did you buckle up for that wild ride?
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#761187 - 05/22/12 01:42 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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Oh ya. That was a wild ride. It was at 380 cfm that day.
we lost a ton of jigs also. I fished Coleys yarn balls a bunch as they did not hang up as much as jigs.
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#761192 - 05/22/12 01:58 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: Dub]
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Ranger Danger
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Loc: Talkeetna, AK
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How'd the yarnies work for you up there Dub?
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#761304 - 05/22/12 08:00 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
[Re: ColeyG]
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Coley, we did not catch anything on them. But then again we didn't catch them on anything else either.
We caught 2 on our own with jigs, one tipped with a pink worm on CraigO's advice.
We did not hear or see of many being caught when we were there so I feel we did ok. Even the guides were saying slow. The water went from 380cfm to 540cfm the 3 days we fished and stayed about 35f.
I am hoping CraigO gets his camera issues fixed as I saw them fighting fish before I knew who he was.
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#761349 - 05/23/12 08:04 AM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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The Golden Boy
Registered: 12/12/04
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That was an awesome color but I would say no jig was safe in that river. If the fish didn't appreciate them, the lumber surely would. how many times did you go "man look at that slot next to the wood; Oh it went down right where it should! reel reel reel...branch?!?!?" Found one spot where I went 3 cast 3 fish and on #4 exact same line found my way right into a branch?!?
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#761398 - 05/23/12 12:49 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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Creepy Cat Guy
Registered: 10/12/11
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That was an awesome color but I would say no jig was safe in that river. If the fish didn't appreciate them, the lumber surely would. how many times did you go "man look at that slot next to the wood; Oh it went down right where it should! reel reel reel...branch?!?!?" Found one spot where I went 3 cast 3 fish and on #4 exact same line found my way right into a branch?!? That totally happened! I have never witnesses so many "sure" looking holes on one drift. I also have never witnesses so many wooden take downs. You definitely have to pay to play on that little river. Wanted to shout out to Coley as well as the minimal time we did stop and get out of the boat to take a cast (drifted about the whole time), we tried his ultra-easy slip on yarnies. They were not only easy to use but also deadly and I can't wait to try them for summer runs this year as well. Thanks Coley! 
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#761408 - 05/23/12 01:22 PM
Re: Situk trip advice.
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Registered: 09/24/10
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I bought a package of holey worms from the lodge tackle shop to try. Those are slick!
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