#740122 - 02/11/1209:18 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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redhook
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yeah its a shame... she was a true Legend... the people she was hanging out with, says something bad about this situation... wonder whats gonna happen..
Her legacy is the invaluable contribution she made to America's songbook.
What a waste of incredible and incomparable talent.
While I would never condone the life path that led to her predictable demise, I cannot help but mourn the loss of the greatest female voice to ever grace my ears.
The haunting lyrics to the title song of her 2009 comeback album "I Look to You" is prophetic beyond words. I was just sharing that song on my Ipod with LMWS during my last Daddy weekend.
You've been set free and are now far from the battle. RIP, Whitney.... RIP.
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For me, the single most moving thing she ever did was sing this. I think it's the most stunningly awesome performance of the anthem ever...
Rest in peace, Whitney. You gave me chills this day:
Edited by IrishRogue (02/12/1209:52 PM)
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#740372 - 02/13/1201:11 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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"No Foul Play" reported, but expect a foul in the form of media coverup on behalf of 'Big Pharma' that she died as a result of a cocktail of Pharamcutical drugs.
Each year, over 200,00 people die as a result of pharamceutical drug use when taken as directed.
<---not a pill popper.
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#740381 - 02/13/1202:02 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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Originally Posted By: Sky-Guy
"No Foul Play" reported, but expect a foul in the form of media coverup on behalf of 'Big Pharma' that she died as a result of a cocktail of Pharamcutical drugs.
Each year, over 200,00 people die as a result of pharamceutical drug use when taken as directed.
<---not a pill popper.
Right I am sure it was all "Big Pharma's" fault. After all I am sure it says on the Xanax bottle to wash down with alcohol.
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Unlike some prescription meds that can cause you to stop breathing, (Oxy type pain meds) especially if you drink some, Xanax doesn't seem to do that.
Not really sure if you were posting that article with one of my post for me or not but I already knew the side effects of alcohol and Xanax use. While it does not stop breathing all together, alcohol usually increases the risk of the usual side effects of Xanax (one of which is drowsiness). When mixed it also can cause a decrease in heart/breathing rates which usually leads to someone passing out. I am not a rocket scientist but I know that drowsiness, decreased heart rate, decreased breathing rates, and a bath tub do not mix.
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#740416 - 02/13/1206:05 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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Doctors have become nothing more than pill pushers..... [Bleeeeep!] crazy. I tweak my back and get vicodin (not sure how any of these are spelled), naproxin, a muscle relaxer, and a stool sofener due to the fact that taking all of those will back you up.. Guy spent less than 5 minutes with me......
#740420 - 02/13/1206:23 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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Check my prostate no, I guess what I was trying to say was I feel they throw pills at you like crazy without much thought of an alternative. I ended up not geting any and ice/heat my lower back. eventually got my [Bleeeeep!] back to the gym and strengthened my core muscles. knock on wood, no problems......
#740422 - 02/13/1206:26 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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I'm wondering what the tragedy is. The Powell case is a tragedy for the kids, not the adult who knew what he was doing. She had opportunities to clean up that many of us don't. She could skip a few paychecks to go into treatment where many of us would be evicted for missing a couple payments. Not saying she had control over it, we all know that's not how it works. But, she's nothing more than another druggy who continually f'd up her own life.
There are plenty of issues that turn my stomache every day, this doesn't even register.
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#740430 - 02/13/1206:53 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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I didn't drink any alcohol during the 12 weeks ( 6 weeks at a time) that I was on painkillers after my 2 knee replacements. First replacement I was prescribed oxycodone. Second replacement I was prescibed oxycotin, oxycodone, and tramadal. A person has to have alot of self disipline when it comes to using painkillers. They are a tool to help in healing,
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#740447 - 02/13/1207:43 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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And I guess we don't know the dosage she was taking and if she was actually following the dosage prescribed. .5mg of Xanax TID (three times daily) is a lot different than 2mg of Xanax at one time washed down with a cocktail.
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Chuck, your comments indicate you do not understand or know anything about addiction. As far as being tragic, she has an 18 year old daughter who has lived the train wreck life her mother gave her, but now she's a girl without her mom. Shoulda, coulda, woulda, she's still dead.
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No, my comments don't indicate what you said. And I'd venture to say that I might know more about addiction than you do, but you're entitled to your opinion.
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#740463 - 02/13/1209:37 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
I didn't drink any alcohol during the 12 weeks ( 6 weeks at a time) that I was on painkillers after my 2 knee replacements. First replacement I was prescribed oxycodone. Second replacement I was prescibed oxycotin, oxycodone, and tramadal. A person has to have alot of self disipline when it comes to using painkillers. They are a tool to help in healing,
Good for you Jerry.
Although I never personally tried going booze free during the healing process.......it's been my experience that the sterner the alcohol warning is........
Mf
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#740676 - 02/14/1208:06 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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Anyone that has been thru treatment knows the facts of their addiction and the % of those that actually conquer their addiction is less than 5% , so think about it 95% of the true addicts in stage 3 are going to die from their addiction eventually, sad but true, Rest in peace Whitney!!!PEACE
#740680 - 02/14/1208:19 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
I didn't drink any alcohol during the 12 weeks ( 6 weeks at a time) that I was on painkillers after my 2 knee replacements. First replacement I was prescribed oxycodone. Second replacement I was prescibed oxycotin, oxycodone, and tramadal. A person has to have alot of self disipline when it comes to using painkillers. They are a tool to help in healing,
Oxycontin is Oxycodone, just in a higher MG per dose... regular Oxycodone, mixed with Tylenol is Percocet, Oxycontin has no acetomenaphin in it, its just straight Oxycodone... Oxycontin is what generally gets people hooked on Heroin, because they graduated from taking regular Percocets, to taking Oxys, then the Oxy doesnt get them high anymore, so they move on to Heroin... its a viscous opiate, and shouldnt be taken if you dont need it...
#741598 - 02/18/1212:21 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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I wonder what makes us experts on Whitney's drug problem? All we really have to go on is the media and they have a rep. for getting it wrong. To me the guy that should have been on the 'get her healed train' is her husband, Bobby Brown. But that's just my narrow point of view. Drug dependency is an illness and should be treated as such. Alcoholism, the same. You have the ability to say NO, however those that are beyone logical thought processes don't have that ability. Legalizing drugs won't fix it, Obama care won't fix it. It is possible for 'we the people' to fix it. But we won't. Too busy with our own monkeys. She had a beautiful voice 'til drugs and Cigarettes took it. RIP Whitney.
#741686 - 02/18/1208:13 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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Whitney Houston - one of the most beautiful voices I've heard. The voice of an angel and the looks too. RIP Whitney & thanks for the music you shared. My all time favorite song - in the end it's all about love - who you loved & who loved you. I know she didn't write this song but dang she sure did sang it!
I'm going to puke if I hear that song again.
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#741688 - 02/18/1208:27 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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Originally Posted By: Illyrian
I wonder what makes us experts on Whitney's drug problem? All we really have to go on is the media and they have a rep. for getting it wrong. To me the guy that should have been on the 'get her healed train' is her husband, Bobby Brown. But that's just my narrow point of view. Drug dependency is an illness and should be treated as such. Alcoholism, the same. You have the ability to say NO, however those that are beyone logical thought processes don't have that ability. Legalizing drugs won't fix it, Obama care won't fix it. It is possible for 'we the people' to fix it. But we won't. Too busy with our own monkeys. She had a beautiful voice 'til drugs and Cigarettes took it. RIP Whitney.
Well actually she was divorced from Bobby Brown a few years ago and he was more likely than not the start of her addiction.
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Unfortunately when some has a dependency to alcohol or drugs or both they have to want help otherwise usually there is nothing anyone can do for them.
Yes.
It's my understanding (and I don't have the stats to back this up) that the success (failure?) rate of cleaning up druggies and drunks is about the same, whether they volunteer or are forced into rehab. Both are like tornados, going through their lives tearing up the scenery and leaving others to pick up their mess'.
Edited by Slab Happy (02/19/1206:18 AM)
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#741753 - 02/19/1211:02 AMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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they had a daughter. I too have heard that he was the idiot that turned her on to drugs. No way to prove that, and if so, it isn't taken as the crime it is, in this society.
People upset over half-staff flags for Whitney Houston Posted: Feb 16, 2012 9:22 PM PST Updated: Feb 17, 2012 11:18 AM PST Christy Millweard - bio | email
Gov. Christie defends lowering flags for Houston
Some people in the Heartland are upset at the idea of flying American flags at half-staff in honor of Whitney Houston.
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie is ordering flags in his state to be flown at half-staff in honor of Whitney Houston on Saturday, the day of her funeral. He says he's not honoring her as a role model, but a daughter of New Jersey.
I don't like the idea of lower flags for her, and I don't get how the idea even got considered. Ridiculous. I rather see Bobby Brown strung up a flagpole.
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Avid.....many who go into rehab do it in order to avoid other consequences...and they do it without wanting to be there. Some change their mind as they detoxify, but many do not. Was talking with the owner of an upper end outfit here locally...the place is very expensive and caters to the well to do. He said that he estimates only about a 50% recovery rate, even when a ton of jing is thrown down.
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A year after her passing... a look back at the woman at the peak of her career. Unrivalled beauty and unrivalled control of her vocal talent. This LIVE performance rivals that of MJ's at Motown 25. All I can say is WOW!
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Celebrities are the ultimate consumers. Probably had a carbon footprint the size of Olympia, probably had at least one river dammed just for her. MJ was undoubtedly a worse offender......................even if you weren't a boy in his care.
no, I guess what I was trying to say was I feel they throw pills at you like crazy without much thought of an alternative. I ended up not geting any and ice/heat my lower back. eventually got my [Bleeeeep!] back to the gym and strengthened my core muscles. knock on wood, no problems......
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