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#749367 - 03/22/12 11:06 AM Flyboys having fun...
Todd Offline
Stopped Making Porn for this

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 19092
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
...with about $18 million tax dollars.

Good thing we've got nothing better to do in Afghanistan.



Fish on...

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#749368 - 03/22/12 11:07 AM Re: Flyboys having fun... [Re: Todd]
Todd Offline
Stopped Making Porn for this

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 19092
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
P.S. Nothing was seriously hurt except a seriously expensive piece of military hardware.

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#749375 - 03/22/12 11:28 AM Re: Flyboys having fun... [Re: Todd]
docspud Online   content
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 11/01/06
Posts: 1424
Loc: Silverdale Wa
And someones pride.
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#749376 - 03/22/12 11:35 AM Re: Flyboys having fun... [Re: Todd]
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Returning Adult

Registered: 03/29/02
Posts: 397
Loc: sum x wet,sum x dry WA 4 Life
Damn....

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#749394 - 03/22/12 12:25 PM Re: Flyboys having fun... [Re: Kinetic Kwik]
Direct-Drive Offline
ExtenZe Field Tester

Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 4402
Loc: Vancouver, WA
I don't think it was joy-riding.
That thing had some kind of fail going on.

Nobody hurt.
But yeah, Ka-Ching goes the cash register.
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#749397 - 03/22/12 12:31 PM Re: Flyboys having fun... [Re: Direct-Drive]
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Registered: 12/15/02
Posts: 3870
Loc: Ahhhhh, damn dog!
I can't believe all those guys stood around that landing zone while he was coming in so hot.

Fishy
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#749416 - 03/22/12 01:36 PM Re: Flyboys having fun... [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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2gone2fish

Registered: 01/21/11
Posts: 3428
Never mind...............the tax payers will pick up the tab.
Again.

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#749417 - 03/22/12 01:37 PM Re: Flyboys having fun... [Re: 2MANY]
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2gone2fish

Registered: 01/21/11
Posts: 3428
And again.

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#749418 - 03/22/12 01:38 PM Re: Flyboys having fun... [Re: 2MANY]
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2gone2fish

Registered: 01/21/11
Posts: 3428
And the next generation.............again.

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#749440 - 03/22/12 02:22 PM Re: Flyboys having fun... [Re: 2MANY]
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Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 2489
Loc: Talkeetna, AK
I don't really see anything that points to mechanical failure. It appears to me as though the machine stalls (wing stall not engine) on the climb after buzzing the buildings and the pilot doesn't have enough elevation to recover. They lose the tail rotor in the bounce which of course leads to the grand finale.

Not the first time a little military flying fun has gone wrong. My guess is a few somebodies are probably without jobs after that stunt. Lucky to have lived.




The guy that was flying this plane had a long and well documented history of showing off and taking unreasonable risks to the point that many would not fly with him. They now use his "legacy" as a case study for breakdowns in decision making and chain of command in the context of risk management. His wife and kids were at the show.

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#749441 - 03/22/12 02:28 PM Re: Flyboys having fun... [Re: ColeyG]
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Loc: Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted By: ColeyG
I don't really see anything that points to mechanical failure.

It looked out of control to me in the first few frames.
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#749449 - 03/22/12 02:45 PM Re: Flyboys having fun... [Re: Direct-Drive]
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Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 2489
Loc: Talkeetna, AK
I don't see anything that indicates loss of main or tail rotor authority in the early part of the clip.

He approaches in a straight line, banks a short turn over the buildings, and starts a steep climb (all indicating intact authority), which to me looks like he either stalls out on, or something happens in the cockpit to restrict the pilot ability to manipulate the controls. He tries to dive out of it and/or autorotate to the ground, but doesn't have the room to get it done. No external indications (smoke, vapor trail, etc.) of a mechanical failure, but that doesn't necessarily mean they didn't lose power. Seems unlikely though as those ships have two engines.
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#749455 - 03/22/12 03:10 PM Re: Flyboys having fun... [Re: ColeyG]
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Registered: 11/10/09
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Loc: Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted By: ColeyG
I don't see anything that indicates loss of main or tail rotor authority in the early part of the clip.

He approaches in a straight line, banks a short turn over the buildings, and starts a steep climb (all indicating intact authority), which to me looks like he either stalls out on, or something happens in the cockpit to restrict the pilot ability to manipulate the controls. He tries to dive out of it and/or autorotate to the ground, but doesn't have the room to get it done. No external indications (smoke, vapor trail, etc.) of a mechanical failure, but that doesn't necessarily mean they didn't lose power. Seems unlikely though as those ships have two engines.

Just looked squirrelly at the front end. A panicked recovery attempt, maybe.

I think that the way the crowd was lined up, they were going to do a planned, high speed pass over the snow field. Camera guy was there, etc.

Maybe they came in too low, tried to fix it, and everything went south.
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#749484 - 03/22/12 04:50 PM Re: Flyboys having fun... [Re: Direct-Drive]
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Registered: 12/20/09
Posts: 1467
Loc: Spokane, wa
How's it go? There are old pilots and bold pilots but there are no
old bold pilots.

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#749490 - 03/22/12 05:10 PM Re: Flyboys having fun... [Re: Illyrian]
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Registered: 01/24/07
Posts: 17516
Loc: City By The Bay
Chuck Yeager not old or bold enough for ya?

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#749524 - 03/22/12 08:17 PM Re: Flyboys having fun... [Re: Hankster]
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Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 10037
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
What a goat.

That was quite a display of piloting skill.
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#749557 - 03/23/12 05:17 AM Re: Flyboys having fun... [Re: Dan S.]
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Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 9816
Loc: Discovery Bay, Wa.
It's obvious to me that both the chopper pilot and the B-52 pilot were concentrating on the emergency on the ground.


Not the one that existed, but rather the one they were about to create.

agree with Dan.
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#749569 - 03/23/12 07:59 AM Re: Flyboys having fun... [Re: Slab Happy]
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Registered: 01/15/12
Posts: 510
Loc: Washington
This was just on the news.
Stupid.

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#749583 - 03/23/12 08:47 AM Re: Flyboys having fun... [Re: MikeH]
stam Offline
Model Citizen, Zero Discipline!

Registered: 11/03/04
Posts: 8108
Loc: wherever I want to be...
That was awesome...



..Hold my beer, watch this!
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#749595 - 03/23/12 10:35 AM Re: Flyboys having fun... [Re: stam]
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Registered: 08/14/06
Posts: 2285
Loc: edmonds
My parents said years ago, cars will have wings n fly by the time you drive... HOLY SH!T am I glad that never happened...those are nasty fender benders...

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