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#760823 - 05/19/12 06:07 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
redhook
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what did i tell you, you little flea bag?

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#760827 - 05/19/12 06:18 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
redhook
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oh i can deal with it, i already told you that....

keep pressing me fool...

now go sit down on the couch with that 50 year old muskrat you call a GF and laugh at each other ya fvckin dunce....

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#760830 - 05/19/12 06:24 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
redhook
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like i said, when you come back to WA, ill give you my address, and we can play XBOX and talk sh!t to people on the internet we dont know...

you turned that down...

so whos the pussy?

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#760833 - 05/19/12 06:30 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
redhook
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and you call me retarded... smh....

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#760838 - 05/19/12 07:08 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: salmosalar]
Redd_Daetona Offline
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Registered: 01/26/06
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Loc: Mt. High / Restoration Creek
The movie Idiocracy comes to mind.
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#760841 - 05/19/12 07:28 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Redd_Daetona]
blue water pro Offline
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Registered: 09/22/07
Posts: 2695
IMO no person on this board would be stalked by a "mexican" (just saying that for the fruit cakes) with a 9mm & not either run for their life or fight for their life.

Fight or flight.

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#760881 - 05/20/12 11:31 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: blue water pro]
Slab Happy Offline
WINNER

Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 9741
Loc: Discovery Bay, Wa.
I don't know about that.......Boo Boo might dazzle 'em with a well thought out one-liner and the stalker may rethink his wayward ways.
rofl

or maybe he'd just shoot him.
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#760916 - 05/20/12 07:09 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Slab Happy]
blue water pro Offline
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Registered: 09/22/07
Posts: 2695
Doubt that a oneliner from Boo woulda stopped the psycho.

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#760937 - 05/21/12 06:58 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: blue water pro]
Illyrian Offline
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Registered: 12/20/09
Posts: 1450
Loc: Spokane, wa
Amazing! The two bitches are still calling each other pussy and threatening physical atrocities. Was funny for a while but the on-
going juvenile behaviour should eventually die, assuming there
is a bit of an adult buried in the psyche of either of the brats.

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#762222 - 05/26/12 03:01 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Illyrian]
Todd Offline
Stopped Making Porn for this

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 18991
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-zimmerman-witnesses-20120526,0,5699428.story

Four witnesses in Trayvon Martin case change their stories

Three key witnesses in the second-degree murder case against George Zimmerman change their accounts in ways that could damage the defendant. The fourth abandons her initial story altogether.

By Rene Stutzman and Jeff Weiner

May 25, 2012, 8:08 p.m.
ORLANDO, Fla. — Evidence released last week in the second-degree murder case against George Zimmerman shows four key witnesses made major changes in what they say they saw and heard on the rainy February night when he fatally shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

Three changed their stories in ways that could damage Zimmerman. One man who initially told police Martin was atop Zimmerman punching him "MMA-style" — a reference to Mixed Marital Arts — later said he was no longer sure about the punches. The teenager may have simply been keeping Zimmerman pinned to the ground, he said.

A fourth witness abandoned her initial story — that she saw one person chasing another. Now she says she saw a single figure running.

They were re-interviewed in mid-March, after Sanford, Fla., police handed off the case to State Atty. Norm Wolfinger. The case changed hands again when Florida Gov. Rick Scott appointed a special prosecutor.

Zimmerman, 28, was arrested April 11 on a charge of second-degree murder. He has pleaded not guilty, claiming self-defense, and is out on bond awaiting trial.

Martin was staying with his father's fiancee, who lives in the Retreat at Twin Lakes, a gated community. Zimmerman called police to report him as a suspicious person. Then he followed Martin, who was returning from a convenience store with a bag of Skittles and an iced tea. An altercation ensued and Martin was shot in the chest.

The witnesses changed their stories in these key ways:

• Witness 2: A young woman who lives in the gated community was interviewed twice by Sanford police and once by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

She told authorities that she had taken out her contact lenses just before the incident. In her first recorded interview with Sanford police four days after the shooting, she told lead Investigator Chris Serino, "I saw two guys running. Couldn't tell you who was in front, who was behind."

She stepped away from her window, and when she looked again, she "saw a fistfight. Just fists. I don't know who was hitting who."

A week later, she added a detail when talking again to Serino: During the chase, the two figures had been 10 feet apart.

That all changed when she was re-interviewed March 20 by a state agent. That time, she recalled catching a glimpse of just one running figure, she told investigator John Batchelor, and she heard the person more than saw him.

"I couldn't tell you if it was a man, a woman, a kid, black or white. I couldn't tell you because it was dark and because I didn't have my contacts on or glasses.... I just know I saw a person out there."

• Witness 12: A young mother who is also a neighbor in the town-home community never gave a recorded interview to Sanford police, according to prosecution records released last week. She first sat down for an audio-recorded interview with a state agent March 20, more than three weeks after the shooting.

During that session, she said she saw two people on the ground immediately after the shooting and was not sure who was on top.

"I don't know which one.... All I saw when they were on the ground was dark colors," she said.

Six days later, however, she said she was sure: It was Zimmerman on top, she told trial prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda during a 2 1/2-minute recorded session.

"I know after seeing the TV of what's happening, comparing their sizes; I think Zimmerman was definitely on top because of his size," she said.

• Witness 6: This witness lived a few feet from where Martin and Zimmerman fought. On the night of the shooting, he told Serino he saw a black man on top of a lighter-skinned man "just throwing down blows on the guy, MMA-style."

He also said the one calling for help was "the one being beat up," a reference to Zimmerman.

But three weeks later, when he was interviewed by a state agent, the man said he was no longer sure which one called for help.

"I truly can't tell who, after thinking about it, was yelling for help just because it was so dark out on that sidewalk," he said.

He also said he was no longer sure Martin was throwing punches. The teenager may have merely pinned Zimmerman to the ground, he said.

Also
Trayvon Martin case: Details on Zimmerman injuries, but no answers
Documents shed more light on Trayvon Martin shooting
Trayvon Martin in video before confrontation with George Zimmerman
Trayvon Martin case: George Zimmerman waives right to speedy trial
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www.iUniverse.comHe did not equivocate about who was on top, however.

"The black guy was on top," he said.

• Witness 13: He is important because he talked with Zimmerman and watched the way he behaved immediately after the shooting, before police arrived.

After this neighbor heard gunfire, he went outside and spotted Zimmerman standing there with "blood on the back of his head," he told Sanford police the night of the shooting.

Zimmerman told him that Martin "was beating up on me, so I had to shoot him," the witness told Serino. Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer, then asked the witness to call his wife, Shellie, and tell her what had happened.

In two subsequent interviews about a month later — one with a state investigator and one with De la Rionda — the witness described Zimmerman's demeanor in greater detail, adding that he spoke as if the shooting were no big deal.

Zimmerman's tone, the witness said, was "not like, 'I can't believe I just shot someone!' — it was more like, 'Just tell my wife I shot somebody' … like it was nothing."

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Sorry to interupt you two...back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Fish on...

Todd

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#762229 - 05/26/12 04:26 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Todd]
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Registered: 01/24/07
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Serino wrote in a report that he played a 911 call for Martin's father, Tracy, in which screams for help are heard multiple times. "I asked Mr. Martin if the voice calling for help was that of his son," the officer wrote. "Mr. Martin, clearly emotionally impacted by the recording, quietly responded 'no.'" Zimmerman's father also listened to the recording and told investigators on March 19 that it was his son yelling for help. "That is absolutely positively George Zimmerman," Robert Zimmerman said. "He was not just yelling, he sounded like he was screaming for his life."

An unnamed woman told an investigator in a police interview that she stays away from Zimmerman because he's racist and because of things he's done to her in the past, but she didn't elaborate on what happened between them. "I don't at all know who this kid was or anything else. But I know George, and I know that he does not like black people. He would start something. He's very confrontational. It's in his blood. We'll just say that," the woman says in an audio recording.

An unnamed man told investigators said he worked with Zimmerman in 2008 for a few months. The man, who described his heritage as "Middle Eastern," said Zimmerman bullied him at work. Zimmerman wanted to "get in" with the clique at work who did not like the man, so Zimmerman exaggerated a Middle Eastern accent, and made reference to terrorists and bombings when talking about him. "It was so immature," said the employee, who complained to management about Zimmerman. Zimmerman's parents say he wasn't racist. They said he mentored black students and had a black relative.

Martin's death was caused by a single gunshot wound to the chest, NBC News reported. One legal expert said the distance between Zimmerman and Martin at the time of the shooting will inevitably be key for both sides at trial.

"Time and space are often critical determinants in self-defense cases," Ronald Carlson, professor at University of Georgia Law. "Defendants often are at an advantage by saying 'the attacker was very close to me, I was in imminent danger of death.'"

"If the [medical examiner] who will testify for the state comes toward the shorter range, that's not necessarily inconsistent with Zimmerman's account. But if we're out at 4 feet, then that's going to be very helpful to the prosecutor. If the evidence suggests that the person was not as close, then that puts the kibosh on the defendant's story."

The prosecution has the burden of proof here, and witness testimony will be very important if the physical evidence doesn’t become more definitive than it is now; the fact that so many witnesses have changed their minds about what they saw could help establish reasonable doubt.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming. sleep
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#762234 - 05/26/12 05:38 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
Salman Offline
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Registered: 03/07/12
Posts: 275
Just because somone is suspended from school, young and tall, and walking down the road eating skittles doesn't mean they're an angel.
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Pack that garbage out too.
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#762259 - 05/26/12 06:54 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
Jerry Garcia Offline

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Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 7641
Loc: everett
Witness 12

I know after seeing the TV of what's happening, comparing their sizes; I think Zimmerman was definitely on top because of his size," she said.
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#763390 - 06/01/12 12:55 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Jerry Garcia]
Hankster Offline
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Registered: 01/24/07
Posts: 17087
Loc: City By The Bay
George Zimmerman's Bond Revoked


A judge revoked bond today for George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch captain charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of a Florida teenager in his gated community, and ordered him to surrender himself in 48 hours.

Prosecutors had filed a motion today to revoke his bond, accusing Zimmerman of "deceiving" the court about his finances and his possession of a second passport, which he apparently acquired two weeks after the shooting.

"The court was led to believe that they didn't have a single penny," said prosecutor Bernie De La Rionda. "If this [the money] wasn't relevant to bond then why did they lie about it? I don't know what other words to use besides that it was a blatant lie."
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#764708 - 06/07/12 12:49 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
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Registered: 01/24/07
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The prosecutor in the George Zimmerman case has reportedly contacted the dean of Harvard Law School to complain about criticism lodged by legal mastermind Alan Dershowitz.

Angela Corey, the state attorney in Florida's 4th Judicial Circuit Court, which includes Duval, Nassau and Clay counties, threatened to sue Harvard Law School during a “40-minute rant” while trying to get Dershowitz disciplined by the Bar Association and to file libel and slander charges against the Harvard law professor, he wrote on NewsMax.com.

“When the communications official explained to her that I have a right to express my opinion as ‘a matter of academic freedom,’ and that Harvard has no control over what I say, she did not seem to understand,” Dershowitz wrote. “She persisted in her nonstop whining, claiming that she is prohibited from responding to my attacks by the rules of professional responsibility — without mentioning that she has repeatedly held her own press conferences and made public statements throughout her career.”

Corey’s “beef,” Dershowitz wrote, pertained to his criticism of the state attorney’s filing of a “misleading affidavit” to support the second-degree murder charge against Zimmerman in the death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

“She should go back to law school, where she will learn that it is never appropriate to submit an affidavit that contains a half truth, because a half truth is regarded by the law as a lie, and anyone who submits an affidavit swears to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth,” Dershowitz’s column continued.
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#764713 - 06/07/12 01:16 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
stlhead Offline
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Posts: 6830
"because a half truth is regarded by the law as a lie"

So the vast majority of your posts are lies.
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#764740 - 06/07/12 02:07 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: stlhead]
docspud Offline
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Registered: 11/01/06
Posts: 1414
Loc: Silverdale Wa
I just read something from Dan and Todd on that other topic about glass houses and the inside of ones a-hole that stlgiveshead should take a look at.
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#764741 - 06/07/12 02:15 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: docspud]
stlhead Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6830
Why? That was aimed at you RWWJ's.
BTW, who told you about my big stones?
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#764743 - 06/07/12 02:19 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Chuck S.]
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Posts: 7078
Loc: Bellevue
Crazy kunt should be removed from the case, and face bar discipline for her call to Harvard.
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