i have no vast knowledge of radioactive materials, what i do have vast knowledge of is, MEASUREMENTS...

millions of gallons of water X small amounts of radiation = nothing to worry about..

if you didnt know, we used to test Nuclear Bombs under water.. specifically the test bombs before Ivy Mike, Little Boy, Baker, and others... full scale nuclear bombs going of UNDER water, releasing all radiation into the surrounding water... and nothing every went haywire...



ever...

measurement wise, i like to grow things with various methods of Hydroponics, and measurments/chemical balances, are everything when it comes to that...

its logic, and not hard to understand that there will not be severe, or even moderate nuclear contamination from Fukushima, cant and wont happen...

With the Cesium radiation we are talking about, the main difference between really concentrated, and really diffuse, is the amount of time it will take to give you cancer...it's half life is really long, it accumulates in fish, and it accumulates in you if you eat it, meaning it doesn't go away when you eat a little, it piles up, until you've eaten enough that you now have a lot in you...and "a lot" doesn't take very much.

I'd say it's a good idea to check, even if it's a low chance of finding it.

Fish on...

Todd

I am part of a task force that responds to weapons of mass destructions in FEMA region 9. We've not really heard anything about the water contamination and its threats to us. There was research done and scenarios ran at the Pentagon, but no real alerts issued so I don't see it as a big worry.

I ran into an older gentlemen that used to guard ranges where they tested nuclear bombs. He was fine but seemed surprised when he told me the VA did lots of testing on him and he didn't know why.

point taken Todd, Cesium is heavier than water, so will sink to the bottom, where fish can feed on it...

my question is tho, without googling so i wont get any sh!t, do salmon and steelhead in Wa State even go past, or within the vicinity of Japan? 1000 miles off the coast of Japan, i bet the rad levels are like they always are... even if fish do pass there, do they hang out long enough to actually ingest enough food to make a difference?

resident fish, yes, test them... but migratory fish? i dont have a problem with it at all, i was just curious about others opinions, untill the Sideshow showed up...

I'd be less worried about fish going there and bringing it back as I would be about stuff that's contaminated with Cesium making its way over here with the ocean currents.

Fish on...

Todd

thats my point...

noone seems to worry about the fish swimming through the Duwamish Waterway and into the river...

why worry about fish that dont even come close to the actuall area? id rather eat a fish that blew through some radiation, than something that swam for 2 weeks through an oil slick...

its not like we havent had our own little incidences with Nuke Plants on our own soil...

and nothing has ever happened...

Japan, yes, they are screwed completely... we, arent in any danger that i see, other than the fact of the debris thats coming out way potentially, thats already showing up... early..

Nate ...


Take your keyboard and unplug it from the PC, walk over to any upstairs window. Open said window and throw that %T^%$@ as far as you can


Trust me....

Are you sure you're not Blades ?

I don't care who you are......that's funny right there.

Shiot, Sol Duc...I thought he was you, using a made up moniker



Fish on...

Todd

who the hell is Blades?

im friggin Nate Bradeen, and know noone with the name Blades, except for Brian Blades of the Hawks a long long time ago...

Chuck, i cant do that, this keyboard is from 1984, and is more comfortable and operational than any new keyboard ive ever owned, i threw my old (decent Microsoft) one away because of that

this place needed to liven up a bit anyways... laugh once and a while, its not always about politics and fish, you gotta live and have fun... and im not even upset if people use my expense to do so...

have fun, you aint guarenteed tommorow...

Wait a sec. I thought Blades was that KingFeverButtBumper. Now I'm so confused.

redhook,

My advice is to quit talking in absolutes until you know your arse from a hole in the ground.

Salmon are a mid-level predator, which means they could concentrate enough low-concentration Cesium that by the time we eat them, it could present a health concern. They don't have to go anywhere near Japan to pick it up, either, if the prey items they run into in the north Pacific were somewhere near Japan.

Again, you don't know sh!t about the subject you're discussing. You're making an educated guess, and I'm guessing your education in the subject matter at hand is sorely lacking.

I'm not saying this plan is or isn't a waste of money. What I'm saying is you don't have a clue, either, so why do you insist on pretending you do?

Did you hang out with Ken Griffey Jr. back in the day ?

Back when I hung out with Jr. there was a dude in the highlands named Nate Bradeen.

You that same cat?

Dan, come on man, your killin me here... i asked peoples opinions, i didnt have to ask my education dictated, or talked about.. im not talking in absolutes, i gave my opinion of whether or not it would could, or is dangerous.. which its not.. that doesnt matter..

my question and reason posting it, was what does everyone else think about it? im not worried about it, i dont care one bit, ill still fish for em, and still eat them...

theres worse sh!t in Puget Sound than some miniscule amounts of Caesium in billions of gallons of water...

and your correct, but Cesium sinks, as its a metal, so, as an abundant food source of Salmon, how far do Candlefish travel?

its called logic, and people (media) are blowing it out of proportion once again...they have been testing fish samples since the bombs went off in 1945... nothing has been out of normal... or you would have heard about it...

thats called the FDA...

I thought the highland guy was Duncan McCloud

you mean Justin? hes in prison...

opinions people...


otherwise, mods, send this sh!thole to the other section...

Well if you like the stupid keyboard so damn much ... take the box its plugged into and throw that phugger out a window

Speaking of Blades...

http://www.piscatorialpursuits.com/forum...html#Post676640