Yeah they are all size queens over there.

The Readers Digest version: You're both too fat and lazy to go outside. Match made at the 7-11 hot case fighting over the last bean burrito.

Sounds like someone is due for another round with the horse.

Close, but I was thinking something even a bit worse than that...

























...like your wife.

This thread has degenerated quirte nicely. Yo mamma jokes. Yo wife jokes. Pretty good entertainment all around.

Sorry Sandu, it is the dark side afterall.

Go Sox,
cds

yo mamma so dumb she thought Grape Nuts was an STD...


sorry, i had to....

back to your regularly scheduled programming...

You want my wife to do you instead of the horse? I'd keep looking. My wife is a babe who works out and would kick you in the nuts and then pull out her Ruger SP101. She loves that gun. I don't think she'd stick it where you like though. She doesn't like having to clean it.

Or it seems Sandu is missing from the thread... hopefully he is talking to his wife rather than pointlessly trading insults here.



It is probably too soon for an update but in a society of instant gratification I expect results dammit.

IMO, if you are seeking relationship advice on the Dark Side of a fishing forum the mirror is the first place to look for clues. I don't know how many divorces we've seen out here which mostly sound due to "I want to fish all of the time now why can't you just deal with it?"

Awesome, now you're gunna pry your wife off of the couch to your defend your *honor*... why does that not surprise me.

You're getting worse. A bit early to be too drunk.

It takes a real man to do this but next time she is sulking in bed without you .....simply walk in and demonstrate that you don't need her for sex.

You will learn a lot about your relationship in a short amount of time.

Saundu,

It typically comes down to one basic issue, lack of communication. Now that is just the tip of the iceberg in front of the SS Saundu marriage. Lack of communication has always been there even when you were dating so just talking will not fix it, now. Neither one has confidence in the other re communication and follow through and you do not have an agreed process of communication that works. Both of you have been cataloging the perceived slights of the other for many years now and now there is a massive wall of resentment between the two of you. That wall cannot be knocked down it has to be disassembled a piece at a time.
So you have to decide one thing and one thing only, if you love her? If you do then you have to decide that you will do anything you have to fix your issues that have prevented you from having a happy and fulfilling relationship. Then she has to do the same. For you that means find a counselor that you can work with a start peeling the layers of the onion named Saundu. Once you have made some progress the counselor will decide its time to add Mrs Saundu to the mix or not. It may not work it out it might but you will be a better person for it in the long run. .

I look at it this way. I made a promise to my self, my wife my friends and family in public that I would keep my word. No one forced me I came up with the idea all on my own. I compounded that choice when I decided to have kids. Nothing in life worth a dollar ever comes easy, everything I value has come at a price. People give up on themselves too easily in my opinion and it makes it easier to give up on others. They live a compromised life because of it.

A friend of mine confided in me late last year that he and his wife had only had sex with each other 12 times is 25 years of marriage. He was miserable, I asked him why not look in the mirror and find out why he allowed it to get that far. He dropped dead Feb 12th . Moral of the story is, life is short, shorter for some more than others. Every day spent unhappy is a bad investment because you can never get it back. Good luck on your journey.

Tom---Good advice.

12 times in 25 years??? Dear God!

I thought 12 times a month may not be enough to keep a marriage alive...unless some of that is spent outside bent over a rotten log (her not me) but I digress.

She should think of it like peeling a banana....................not an onion.

Other than that the counselor's advice above is right out of the counselor's handbook.

hehehehe

I think that is the smartest paragraph I have read here in quite some time.

I have been married 18 years today. Only 1 outdoor intercourse adventure that I can remember. My wife doesn't really like to camp but will because the kids want to, we have a 13 year old and a 9 year old. She doesn't like to fish but likes to go out in the boat while I fish. She likes shopping, I don't. We both support our kids in all their schooling and their sports endevors. We have had ups and downs through the years and have seen a counselor a time or 2, but in the end we have always talked through issues and worked them out together. Frankly, whether your marriage can be saved is up to BOTH of you. If you both want to save it, it can be done. However, as it takes two to make a marriage, it also usually takes two to destroy a marriage.

Happy Anniversary DBA...

I've been married for 21 1/2 years and mutually agreed to live in seperate rooms and go seek others because we were not happy. This came to a head about 1 1/2 ago but we've been back together for 6 months.

If she doesn't like to fish don't expect her to go. My wife hates fishing because her dad made her go. I didn't fish when we dated until her dad got me into it. She likes to get shellfish, clams, razors, shrimp, crab.

Kids are trying on the relationship. Our problem is that I wasn't on the same page with my wife on discipline for the kids. I fathered a boy when I was 18 that was put up for adoption. He looked me up a couple of years ago and that has been positive for our relationship. The grandaughters are a blessing and we are both involved when we can. I was straight up about it before marriage and we used it as a lesson learned for my other two. My two teenagers are doing better but they've put us through their share. 19 YO moved out but the 20 YO is still at home. As the birds fly the nest we've had more time to ourselves.

Does your wife have friends? It helps if your wife has gal pals and doesn't rely on you for everything. We've become more social and it helps.

Don't spend too much time on this board. Yeah I'm like you as I do alot around the house, including kitchen chores, but she does dinner, bills, computers, fixes things, and cleans.

I think you need to start by having the open discussion of where you are and what you want. Things in the bedroom will probably be the last thing in her priorities if she's like my wife. Work on the other stuff first. Maybe Stam can hook you up at the Enumclaw sex farm in the meantime. I'm still hoping for female Viagra. Like Parker said be romantic even if you have to force yourself. That's real difficult for me and I need to keep that up. My wife has roller-coastered on the weight and that has something to do with her self esteem. My wife has been on the treadmill every day for the past 3 weeks. Now she's going to Zumba with her friends.

It's hard. Some people do better apart and some people are better together. It's hard to keep up the househole even with two incomes. I don't want to say how much we make but she has more earnings potential. We took a short trip to the ocean a few months ago, saw her best friend, and I didn't even fish even though I did check out the river. Going back to fish next week and again in late June by myself. She is going camping with her gal friends in Chelan in August.

You're right in that he will learn a lot in a short amount of time, but most wives just won't put up with bringing another woman into bed, even if it's a kingsize bed. But she will definitely get the hint that he needs more sex.