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#764262 - 06/05/12 11:31 PM Eating raw steelhead?
steeliedrew Offline
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The wife and i have recently gotten really into sushi. We especially enjoy Nigiri style sushi. Basically it's a thinly sliced raw fillet layed on a small ball of rice with a bit of wasabi between the fish and the rice. I've been toying with the idea of trying this with summer runs because their meat is so nice. As long as I freeze the fish to kill some bacteria before consumption I'd imagine I'll be fine. I did some reading and found that most sushi restaurants freeze their salmon before thawing to serve to customers. What do you think? Abu-loomis...I've seen pics of your raw fish meals. Ever tried it with fresh river caught steelhead?

Thanks,

Drew
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#764267 - 06/05/12 11:41 PM Re: Eating raw steelhead? [Re: steeliedrew]
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could make Lox as well...

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#764269 - 06/06/12 12:07 AM Re: Eating raw steelhead? [Re: ]
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I've never had lox but from the recipes I've seen just now it looks killer. Nigiri takes a lot less time though.
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#764272 - 06/06/12 12:20 AM Re: Eating raw steelhead? [Re: ]
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I'll probably freeze it. I really just want to use the belly meat for the Nigiri. I'll just slice that up and freeze it separate for a few days. I couldn't find any info on if there is any curing process sushi restaurants do when they process their salmon. We frequent "I love sushi" on lake union. I'll have to talk to the chef next time I'm in.
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#764273 - 06/06/12 12:26 AM Re: Eating raw steelhead? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Steelspanker
Drew,

I would not eat raw fish caught from freshwater without my sushi chef's approval. And then I still wouldn't do it. And I eat lots of sushi.

Ditto

Sushi and sashimi is strictly a saltwater affair in my book. No freshwater salmonids are consumed raw in my household. I might make an exception for a tidewater fish sportin' a snow belly, translucent fins, a pile of long-tailed sea lice and blinding chrome sides that's literally minutes or hours from the salt.

A river is a nasty place to pick up all kinds of harmful parasites in a hurry.
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#764276 - 06/06/12 12:38 AM Re: Eating raw steelhead? [Re: eyeFISH]
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"I love Sushi" is top notch. They can definitely point you in the right direction.
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#764278 - 06/06/12 12:45 AM Re: Eating raw steelhead? [Re: eyeFISH]
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Since you intend to consume this with out cooking, you will need to freeze it to kill the nematode parasites. Unless your freezer can get down to -20 below and stay that way for minimum of 24 hrs, it is not recommended.

Most commercial fish have been frozen at -35 below for minimum of 4 hrs and kept at -18 or below for a week.

The guidelines set by the FDA for fish intended for raw consumption.

'Freezing (-4F (-20C) or below (internal or external) for 7 days or -31F(- 35C) or below (internal) for 15 hours) of fish intended for raw consumption to kills parasites

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#764280 - 06/06/12 01:11 AM Re: Eating raw steelhead? [Re: Divers]
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Sounds to me like your asking for a case of the shits. Personally, I would listen to the advice given by Steelspanker.


Edited by SkykomishSunrise (06/06/12 01:12 AM)
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#764288 - 06/06/12 01:39 AM Re: Eating raw steelhead? [Re: ]
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ok so what if I have access to some king fillets that were caught in the salt and have been frozen? Would this be the safer alternative?
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#764297 - 06/06/12 03:14 AM Re: Eating raw steelhead? [Re: steeliedrew]
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Definitely...
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#764300 - 06/06/12 03:49 AM Re: Eating raw steelhead? [Re: steeliedrew]
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steeliedrew,

I don't have any experience with uncooked summers as they taste great cooked.

I will say that you are hard core though!

Best,

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#764302 - 06/06/12 04:03 AM Re: Eating raw steelhead? [Re: eugene1]
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I thought the whole deal with salmon is they picked up the bad bugs before they hit the salt and they stayed with them.
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#764310 - 06/06/12 09:18 AM Re: Eating raw steelhead? [Re: ]
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#764313 - 06/06/12 09:56 AM Re: Eating raw steelhead? [Re: DrifterWA]
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Anisakis is a nasty nematode that can occur in salmon/steelhead in the salt or freshwater. I used to eat a ton of raw salmon and gravlax and never had a problem, but after reading up on Anisakis I gave that up. Even if I did eat some myself, I wouldn't want to serve it to someone else and make them sick. Most home freezers don't get cold enough to kill the parasites in salmon, so be careful.

http://www.parasitesinhumans.org/anisakis.html

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#764316 - 06/06/12 10:18 AM Re: Eating raw steelhead? [Re: milt roe]
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I've honestly eaten raw salmon and steelhead dozens of times, and never had any problem. No freezing before hand. Not suggesting that anyone else do it though...

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#764325 - 06/06/12 11:25 AM Re: Eating raw steelhead? [Re: Supertrout]
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#764328 - 06/06/12 11:36 AM Re: Eating raw steelhead? [Re: STRIKE ZONE]
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Nobody ever has a problem with parasites.............until they do.

Then, they wish they hadn't eaten whatever they ate that never gave them a problem before.

There's plenty of sashimi-appropriate fish to eat. Any fish that's been in fresh water during their life cycle isn't sashimi-appropriate unless you can achieve a low enough freezer temp to kill the parasites. Most home freezers won't get cold enough.

Read "Parasite Rex" and you may never eat anything uncooked again.
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#764332 - 06/06/12 12:04 PM Re: Eating raw steelhead? [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Summer run and springer make awesome sashimi...and I try to be 100% on freezing it first, but I haven't been perfect about it...no problems here.

Fish on...

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#764339 - 06/06/12 12:17 PM Re: Eating raw steelhead? [Re: Todd]
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I leave the raw to the pros.
I like to spark and flame my own catch.
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#764342 - 06/06/12 12:29 PM Re: Eating raw steelhead? [Re: ]
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