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#765075 - 06/08/12 08:37 PM Mystery blue back
eyeFISH Offline
Ornamental Rice Bowl

Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 9338
Well here goes...

Let's see how the pendulum of public opinion swings on this fish ID mystery. Never actually seen a troll-caught ocean salmon without spots, so when this nekkid spot-free "king" with an electric blue-green back was shaking on the end of my line, I just didn't know what to think. First thing to cross my mind was coho... until I hauled it aboard.

So here's the first hint for you fish ID experts. Mr Blue Back was caught on a transparent red-orange Apex with chrome prism tape. This is what he looked like fresh-caught.


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#765077 - 06/08/12 08:39 PM Re: Mystery blue back [Re: eyeFISH]
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As the life-force was bled out of the critter in the fishbox, I was awestruck by just how blue its back became.

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#765078 - 06/08/12 08:40 PM Re: Mystery blue back [Re: eyeFISH]
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mouth isnt very black... weird.. scales are large, but almost looks like a Sockeye... then again, im never right...

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#765081 - 06/08/12 08:55 PM Re: Mystery blue back [Re: ]
milt roe Offline
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Registered: 01/22/06
Posts: 730
Loc: tacoma
Changed my mind, peduncle says chum and shot of back says chum.

Hard to tell when they are chrome like that.


Edited by milt roe (06/09/12 02:57 AM)

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#765084 - 06/08/12 09:03 PM Re: Mystery blue back [Re: milt roe]
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Loc: Discovery Bay, Wa.
nice sockeye
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#765086 - 06/08/12 09:06 PM Re: Mystery blue back [Re: ]
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Registered: 11/10/09
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Loc: Vancouver, WA
Sockeye

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#765089 - 06/08/12 09:41 PM Re: Mystery blue back [Re: Direct-Drive]
Sebastes Offline
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Registered: 10/31/02
Posts: 1149
Loc: Monroe,WA.
The large eye and lack of spots identify it as a sockeye in my mind, ocean bright chums can also be identified by a larger eye than a silver.

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#765094 - 06/08/12 10:04 PM Re: Mystery blue back [Re: Sebastes]
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Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 1685
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
Sockeye

Should note that back the 80s the Canadian trollers caught more Chilko sockeye than the nets. Some sockeye stocks bite really well in the salt.

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#765096 - 06/08/12 10:06 PM Re: Mystery blue back [Re: Sebastes]
fish4brains Offline
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Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 5064
Loc: zipper
I'll say Chum
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#765097 - 06/08/12 10:11 PM Re: Mystery blue back [Re: fish4brains]
larryb Offline
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Registered: 03/05/01
Posts: 1930
Loc: elma washington
sockeye
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#765098 - 06/08/12 10:16 PM Re: Mystery blue back [Re: larryb]
fp Offline
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Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 1969
Loc: Hoquiam,WA.USA
Hey, he's in Alaska so it's a Red.

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#765099 - 06/08/12 10:23 PM Re: Mystery blue back [Re: larryb]
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Registered: 12/19/03
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Loc: Back here in Sno-Co.
Size of the peduncle says chum. Pic of the caudal? Based on that photo there appears to be a considerable fork. But the photo cuts it off. Color says sockeye obviously, but based on what I can see of the tail/wrist, Chum. Trick question without a tail shot. Ocean chums glimmer in the sunshine too! Based on how hard that particular fish pulled you could tell. Big sockeye don't pull like smallish Chums in the salt.
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#765109 - 06/09/12 06:53 AM Re: Mystery blue back [Re: Jaydee]
oregonarcher Offline
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Registered: 03/15/11
Posts: 129
Loc: Eugene, Oregon
Chum...
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#765113 - 06/09/12 07:20 AM Re: Mystery blue back [Re: oregonarcher]
donno Offline
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Registered: 06/03/03
Posts: 485
Loc: baker prairie
Sockeye

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#765118 - 06/09/12 07:44 AM Re: Mystery blue back [Re: donno]
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Sockeye
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#765119 - 06/09/12 07:48 AM Re: Mystery blue back [Re: cobble cruiser]
Carcassman Offline
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Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 1685
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
Doc

If you have a couple of scales it is easy to tell if it is a sockeye or chum.

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#765121 - 06/09/12 08:01 AM Re: Mystery blue back [Re: Carcassman]
Jerry Garcia Offline

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Loc: everett
I'm sure that the eye doc knows what it is. Sockeye is too easy of an answer, I have to go with the beautiful lowly chum.
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#765125 - 06/09/12 08:39 AM Re: Mystery blue back [Re: Jerry Garcia]
Carcassman Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 1685
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
Given the size of the eye you're probably right. I remember a commercial seiner telling me that in AK you could pick the chum out by the big eye.

And, the Canadian trollers figured out how to get chum, too.

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#765128 - 06/09/12 08:47 AM Re: Mystery blue back [Re: larryb]
snit Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 1319
Loc: Wenatchee, WA
Sockeye IMO..."blue-back"
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#765135 - 06/09/12 09:21 AM Re: Mystery blue back [Re: snit]
Beezer Offline
Spawner

Registered: 06/09/99
Posts: 789
Loc: Monroe WA
Show us a pic of the gill rakers...I'll say Mrs chumski.

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