#769266 - 06/28/12 10:21 PM
Re: Healthcare upheld by SCOTUS
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The waivers do expire in '14. Interesting...I haven't had a chance to read all 2700 pages yet. I think I'm still on the first paragraph....slow reader, ADHD and narcolepsy ya know.
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#769273 - 06/28/12 11:02 PM
Re: Healthcare upheld by SCOTUS
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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Do you ever, wonder why Lead Eater drops apostrophes into sentences where, they make no sense?
It's like English is, a second language for him.
Have you, noticed this too?
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#769276 - 06/28/12 11:07 PM
Re: Healthcare upheld by SCOTUS
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Its written in legalese, you wont understand, ask Lead Eater for clarification....
No doubt. I'm hoping against hope to have high tea tomorrow with the Honorable Patty Murray, I'm sure a "mom in soccer shoes" will 'splain the finer points...Cucumber finger sammies and scones are the chit. If that doesn't work I'll have Redhook take me to school whilst reviewing his Impressionist plates. I raise my pinky to y'all...
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#769287 - 06/28/12 11:37 PM
Re: Healthcare upheld by SCOTUS
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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Wow.  That was f'ed up.  I feel like I just tossed a rod in the river. <------------------- ESL
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#769293 - 06/29/12 12:12 AM
Re: Healthcare upheld by SCOTUS
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Wow. That was f'ed up. I feel like I just tossed a rod in the river. <------------------- ESL This, thread' has the making of total epicness.
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#769306 - 06/29/12 02:46 AM
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What is laughable:
1. Willard is going to repeal it on his first day in office. Anyone really believe that is going to happen? The law has too many provisions that are popular - good luck on that one Willard. Also consider that Willard is going to dramatically raise defense spending, while cutting the deficet and lowing taxes. Maybe he is a fcking magician.
2. Businesses are not going to hire. Come on, private employment has been on the decline since the Dot. Com bust. Businesses hire when there is demand. Part time jobs to avoid paying benefits has been going on long before this health care plan was concieved.
3. Jobs are going to be shipped over seas. Really, how long has that been going on? Long before this health care plan was conceived. That particular piece of sky fell a long time ago.
What isn't laughable:
1. That the greatest nation in the world can't develop a plan that ensures all of it's citizens have access to health care; that it doesn't see it as a moral imperative, but rather a partisan political issue.
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#769311 - 06/29/12 05:06 AM
Re: Healthcare upheld by SCOTUS
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What we have here is a fine collection of contributions to a thread by......... Laffin.... Next ?
Since when does your fat fukin azz know a goddamn thing about economics or anything else for that matter ? Laffin.... Next ?
Laffin.... Bring on the next whiner, tissue stocks went up today. Lead Eater is just an idiot....still in the lead, but Scabby has to post yet...
Its written in legalese, you wont understand, ask Lead Eater for clarification....
Redhook and Lead Eater are sisters, and cousins too....no sh1t true story here.
Hey SD, what is your next prediction on health care please ? I can use a bit of a laugh here....
Whassamatter ? 30 lb possum got your tongue ?
YoMama would be so proud.
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#769330 - 06/29/12 10:14 AM
Re: Healthcare upheld by SCOTUS
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I lived under a single payer system in New Zealand for 5 years. Affordable Health Care really means - "You are going to die dude, we are going to make you comfortable but we are not going to do anything heroic to extend your life."
I'm fine with that - having watched my Mom and Dad spend 95% of their lifetime Healthcare spend in the last 6 months of their lives, I undertstand that the current system is not sustainable. We need to accept the truth that this life has one outcome for us all and we need to manage healthcare to keep that in mind.
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#769337 - 06/29/12 10:33 AM
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So what's different pre healthcare mandate versus post healthcare mandate? Nothing. Corp America will continue to do what they were already doing. Destroying the middle class. The middle class is the one doing the shopping. Remember, you hate walmart, even though thats where the little folks shop to make ends meet. The biggest difference is that the youngest adults dont want to pay for it. Those with degrees and a good salary will get a benefits package, but not as good as a govt employee. (at least for now) The money from healthcare premiums will come right out of the wages they would have been paid in lieu of that expense. Since more people will be paying more for people who cannot pay, its the working folks who absorb that increase in costs. The total burden cost of an employee cannot go up without raising prices or reducing expenses somewhere else. Like it or not, the CEO is not going to work for free. Since business is not growing, new employees are not needed bad enough to endure increased expenses. The value of everything is based on the lowest employee cost, which is minimum wage. Thats what the unions use to figure their contracts and cost of living adjustments. Management looks down at those wages and has to pay more for managers, (although first level supervisors are often close to union scale) I knew car a salesmen that made more than the desk managers and F & I "managers", so he would not take a promotion. For the most part, a promotion comes with an increase in salary. Even at Ben and Jerrys. "Newmans own" is a nonprofit. Id bet money the CEO/Director, makes more than anyone else. When you can do what the average CEO does and do it as well, then you too, can demand more money than anyone else. They get fired when they dont get it done. Someone needs do a reality check. As I said before...Corps are sitting on more cash than ever before. CEO's are making more money than ever before. The disparity between the rich and the poor, the rich and the middle class, is wider than it's ever been. Yet "they" want more. "they" want you picking up even more of the tab because the disparity needs to be even greater. It's about time we the people start (demanding) mandating against this greed. BTW...the average CEO is merely a grossly over paid figure head. Total failure means employees lose their jobs not the CEO. And if or when the CEO does get hit getting fired makes them even richer unlike you and I.
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#769343 - 06/29/12 10:54 AM
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Soylent Green.....try the Organic version.
Edited by stlhead (06/29/12 10:55 AM)
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#769352 - 06/29/12 11:16 AM
Re: Healthcare upheld by SCOTUS
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BTW....if business is going to be hit so bad by Obamacare how come Wall Street is having a huge day?
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#769353 - 06/29/12 11:16 AM
Re: Healthcare upheld by SCOTUS
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Wow.
I feel like I just tossed a rod in the river.
That's 'old-hat' for you isn't it Danny? 
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#769358 - 06/29/12 11:36 AM
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I think it is a big waste of time and money for the House to try and over turn this legislation. I hope they pull their heads out.
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