...or maybe he's just detached from having a clue, or detached from having advisors and handlers that have clues of their own.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra...ven-down-costs/

This morning in Israel Romney sucked up to Jewish voters by sucking up to Israel, telling them how awesome their health care is, how they pay less than half of what we do as a percentage of GDP on health care, etc., etc., etc....

Israel has government funded health care.

Everyone in Israel is covered.

Medical costs have government controlled price controls so that they do not get too expensive.

Health care in Israel, under any definition, is straight up "socialism".

For Romneycare, against Obamacare, for Israelicare?

Does this guy have a clue at all?

Do those who will be voting for him?

(The answer is "no")

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Todd

Why do all you libturds hate Joo's?

You really are a fuckin idiot.

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Todd

Hey ya sperm burper, he's our next President. LAFFFIN'

Comparing universal healthcare for a country of less than 8 million to a country of almost 300million is a big reach even for a dipchit like todd.

Perhaps our progressive panty sniffer Todd would like to compare Israels healthcare ALONG with their border controls and apply the same standards here.

I'll take Israeli healthcare as long as Todd accepts the US response to border incursion the same as Israel reacts to their border incursion....

Clueless is as clueless does.

Romney is uber rich. By definition he has no grasp on the reality experienced by most of planet earth's dwellers. Who's surprised?

I nominate RVW to monitor border incursions with his not-really-an-assault-rifle. That should give him something more useful to do than making stupid posts on the interwebz.

Like Chuck, I have serious reservations about voting for a religious cult member like Romney. Besides that and being a less than 0.01%er, he's about as normal as can be.

I'm worried regardless of who we elect this year. Neither of them represent any real salvation to the US. One will sell us out to big business. The other will spend us into oblivion, regardless of the future impact on our economy. Neither represents a balanced approach to fixing what is wrong with our country because their parties won't let them, or they just plain don't care.

You slurping Obama jam? I'll consider it a HUGE win if the Kenyan POS is booted the fck out of office.

Chuck S.,

I don't know that Obama is a joke, but he's been more than mildly disappointing to this slightly left of center hippie. His main qualification for office is that he isn't Bush, and that was enough, initially. Health care reform was an overdue idea, but I can't tell if the bungling was the result of inept legislation writing by Dems or the extreme partisanship where anything the Ds are for, the Rs are against.

Dogfish has it closest to correct as I see it. I think both Romney and Obama care, but that's ultimately irrelevant because they are owned by the combination of partisan agendas and Wall St. A balanced approach is the furthest thing from the agendas of those who wield control. The American middle class is screwed.

Sg

lol

What a f'n goat.

Goats are smarter than that.

Hank, either you can't read, or you're being wrong on purpose again, and since I know you can read, you must be doing the "I don't care what was actually said, here's how I'll say it for them" right wing activity.

Romney is praising their health care system...a "socialist" system that makes Obamacare/Romneycare look like the free market system...while also still supporting Romneycare, and opposing Obamacare.

This guy would have to consult with his team to decide if June comes before or after July...and then he'd still get it wrong...but dingbats like you fools will vote for him anyway.

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Todd

Yeah, big difference.

So, what he really was saying is this:

"I really despise your Nigerian Kenyan Socialist Marxist style of healtcare, but I sure wish ours worked as good as yours and as cheaply as yours, just not all bad like yours."

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Todd

Annualized Growth of Federal Spending (averaged):
Reagan 6.8%
Bush I 5.4%
Clinton 3.5%
Bush II 7.7%
Obama 1.4% (Projected through 2013)

Yeah, but Dumbya had to deal with Iraq after Saddam Hussein flew planes into the World Trade Center and was just about to shoot nuclear bombs at us, and security like that costs money and lots of lives.

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Todd

If you go back and actually read the article I linked to (dated 1 June), you'll see that it is actually about the article you linked to (dated 25 May). You should also notice that referenced there is another article (linked here) that refutes the articles by The Washington Post and AP.

The update, dated 31 May, states that under the current administration, Federal spending has risen "slower than at any time in nearly 60 years." What is most controversial is how to account for the spending in 2009 when the economy was in free fall. But even if considering fiscal year 2009 spending that is either clearly or arguably Obama's (the simulus, the CHIP expansion, TARP, etc.), "it would only raise Obama’s average annual spending increase from 1.4 percent to somewhere between 3.4 percent and 4.9 percent." That is still below the previously mentioned administrations.

So I didn't just rely on Nutting's report; I also relied on The Wall Stree Journal, the Tampa Bay Times (PolitiFact.com), and The Fiscal Times.

Oh, and

A rate of change value is not the same as a total aggregate value. On aggregate, no president has spent more dollars than Obama. However, no president since Eisenhower has spent at a slower rate than Obama. There is a difference.

Then you must obviously agree that Romney is a liar for saying that spending under President Obama has "accelerated at a pace without precedent in recent history."

Again, Hank, that article was dated 26 May. If you're going to refute something published on 1 June, it kinda needs to be after that date. All you've done is regurgitated information from 25 May.

Those of you that plan to vote for Obama again should consider professional help. Funniest part is you think you are more intelligent than those who don't agree with your logic....hahaha

We're definitely more intelligent than you grizz.

All you have to do is look at 4sluts avatar, have you ever seen a mug that large?

...and we take your disagreement with us as definite proof of our intelligence.

You're like the gift that keeps on giving.

"Don't feel smart enough? Hang on...let me post something"...and then we feel extremely smart.

Thanks, again.

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Todd

Harley, All I know is I will get screwed by either side so it comes down to who is easier to depose a bad government or bad corporations. Romney is no better or worse than Obama .Only you and I lose if we cannot get together and work out a solution, they win if we do not. Other than that I am out of answers and too long in the tooth to care much anymore.

Umm, no. First of all, that's about the President's suggested budget, not federal spending, per se. And by your own recent account Congress has not yet passed a budget, so hardly germane to the subject. Secondly, that article does not address my original post, or the contention you have for the methodology used within. Finally, that's an op-ed piece in USA Today. USA Today....really?

Holy crap - I'm in full agreement with TJ.

Go have your own pissing match thread...this one's about how Romney loves everything about Israel's health care plan, how it's cheaper by more than half, how everyone in the entire country is covered...it's about him praising it, even though it's more socialist than Obamacare/Romneycare.

It's about Romney and his handlers being douchebags...not about you guys being douchebags.

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Todd

Feeling more and more like TJ all the time. Obama has been incompetent. Romney seems to not have a clue. Great choice.

I think we were better off when candidates were choose in cigar smoke filled rooms. At least the party hacks tried to choose someone who was competent. Now we choose the best looking, guy with the most money and the best sound bites.

Exactly, Hank.

"Your sicko socialist Nigerian Marxist plan performs really well...I wish ours performed that well...only not a sicko socialist Nigerian Marxist plan that threatens traditional marriage, causes Global Warming, and may degrade the very fabric of the space/time continuum"

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Todd

Hank - you sound like a goat.

"That's a great system you have there............we should probably not do that."

"Your system costs way less than ours................but I'm not saying I like your system."

"That's a nice car...........I'll be sure not to buy one."

"That model is very reliable...........it will probably break right away."

Yeah........that wasn't an endorsement.

lol

The reason it's funny is because Romney is a dumbshit and had no idea what thefuck he is talking about.

This is a situation where right wingers should say "oops...he shouldn't have said that"...instead, predictably, they feel the need to defend the most egregious and retarded things that anyone in right wing politics ever says...ever.

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Todd

Written?

He fukin' SAID it, you dumbass.

There was no misconstruing. You're insane, that's all.

No, he's just making it up, like most right wingers...let me guess, this now lets the Republicans off the hook for misconstruing virtually everything the President has said for the past three years, on purpose, right?

Yeah, right.

You'll either have to clean up your own party or be relegated to the dustbin...either way will be an improvement.

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Todd

I didn't misconstrue a f'n thing, you old goat.

Do you know what that word means?

Oh, you're the judge of when something has been misconstrued?

No, you aren't.

I'd have to say you're a f'n goat because.............you are one.

Uh, no.

<------------------THE DECIDER

See for yourself. That is 'THE DECIDER' of everything, in case you were interested.

In order to be a decider you have to be atleast 5' 4"....sorry Dan.

OK, Hank...here's your chance to do some serious parsing so you can suck on Romney's ball sack a little longer.

Here's the list of possibilities that Romney was praising:

1. Their healthcare plan costs 8% of GDP.
2. Their healthcare plan covers every single Israeli.
3. Their healthcare plan is cheap because it has governmental price controls.
4. Their healtchare plan works.

Now, I don't want to put any words in your mouth, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you'll say he was praising #1, but not #'s 2-4, because they're Marxist Nigerian Socialist Kenyan Government Takeover Programs.

'Course, without #'s 2-4, #1 wouldn't be there, either...it'd be like ours...cost 18% of GDP, not cover everyone, not be cheap, and not work.

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Todd

P.S. I ain't misconstruing $hit...Romney likes that theirs is cheap, and had no idea at all why it was, or that it was just like Obamacare, only even more socialist.

How about some more of Romney's lack of integrity, embrace of hypocrisy, and downright jackknobedness?

The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center released its analysis of the Romney tax plan, and not surprisingly, it found that it would lower taxes for the top 2% about $87,000.00, on average, and would raise taxes for middle class families approximately $2000.00, every year.

Romney's response?

"President Obama continues to tout liberal studies calling for more tax hikes and more government spending," Romney campaign spokesman Ryan Williams said.

Really? The Tax Policy Center is now a liberal study group?

Hmmm...why did Romney cite them as "non-partisan" and love their analysis of Gov. Perry's plan when the Tax Policy Center ripped his plan for being a pile of schit, too?

Because Romney is a fuckin hypocrite, that's why.

Romney on the TPC's treatment of Perry's plan:

"Objective, Third-Party Analysis Showed Governor Perry’s Plan Would Raise Taxes On Millions Of American Families – But He Doesn’t Seem Interested In The Discussion."

The TPC was non-partisan, fair, and correct when they derided his opponent's plan, but is now a group that makes "liberal studies calling for more tax hikes and government spending", now that they've pointed out the obvious...if you are going to have a revenue-neutral zillion dollar tax break for the rich, then the money comes from somewhere else...namely, the other 98% of us.

Virtually every single Romney voter, including every single one of you here who will vote for him, will get to pay extra for that tax break for the rich...the "job creators"...ha, ha, ha.

Not funny, I know, since they don't create schit.

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Todd

So which way should we improve it?

Use Romneycare, which he said would do that, and has said did indeed do that?

Use Israelicare, which he praised for doing it?

Use Obamacare, which is just like Romneycare, only is called Obamacare?

He's full of schit, and if you vote for him, you are, too.

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Todd

Actually, I did know that, Hank.

There's a lot of [Bleeeeep!] for brains in this country and most are f'n libturds.

Yeah, you know who's dumb and who isn't.

Shut the f.uck up.

Shut your sperm burper little man.

I knew you were a dumbfuck the first time you posted.

That's what I knew.

Wasn't that the question?

Sol Duc, I'm not sure how it is that you consider your contributions to be any more than dogshit mixed with saliva dribbling out of your fuckin piehole...but be assured...that's just what they are.

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Todd

The only sperm burper here is your asshole after you leave your boyfriend's house, Sol Cu.nt.

Yer a shitstain on PP, and they should send you packin', you gurp slurper.

Go fuc.k yourself.

I'm hurt! stop it!

Laffin'

Nobody wins in 2012. :>)

Actually there is no "light in this thread". Todd going off the deep on bastardized quotes and the 'best' we can hope for is Romney hardly makes for 'light'.

Even laughing my fuckin azz of at Todds' instability has lost its luster...it's become as predictable as my bowel movements. Only my bowel movements are more productive, smell better and have more to offer than anything Todd has said or done.

He gives BM'S a bad name.

Todd on the ladder at the Skok comes to mind...... pointing at a distant fish like Capt. Ahab.

But even with that in mind a pic of a big steaming pile of last nights nourishment would have more substitive value than anything Todd has posted politically, EVER.

Careful, RvW...you're starting to move over into Sol Duc dumbassery...that's a pretty long walk, but you've been fuckin running.

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Todd

Thanks for the warning sunshine. As long as I don't take the marathon down dipchit hiway to Todd dumbassery I'll consider it a life well lived.

PS...I don't have the stamina for that kind of stupity and I was a triathalete.

Ballet, ice skating, and croquet?

Football, Rugby and Lacross but I didn't wanna' give ya' complex.

...as a pawn?

I wasn't on the chess team, but I can play the game.

I played football and wrestled. I got my varsity letter in wrestling as a freshman.

I'm quick like a cat, and really mean and stuff. I could shoot in and plant Hank like a geranium in about .4 seconds.

Speaking of Queens where'd Todd go?

Mommy call him upstairs for din din?

He's gathering more material from Huffington.

lol

I don't sweat big ol' dinosaurs like Hank.

He's half petrified by now.

I wrestled 7th through 10th, I was in the best shape of my life. People that haven't wrestled have no idea how spent you are after three rounds. I went undefeated in 9th grade.

There ya are....you make sure Todd eats all his supper now.

You're right....I was a swimmer, Captain and went to state but no synchronized swimming team in my district. As a beach lifeguard I found women were not in short supply so your synchronized swimming lesbian fantasies will have to find another avenue.

I have little doubt you'd float good....

That's kinda sad on a couple of levels...

1. You were in the best shape of your life when you were 15 years old.

2. You still talk about how awesome it was.

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Todd

Where did I say it was awesome? I quoted Dan not you.

A voracious round of trash talking followed by resumes of size and or toughness going all the way back to the the 7th grade, the internet is awesome!

Everyone's a tough guy on the internet. Nonetheless, Romney is detached from the reality the other 99.9% of us live in. As near as I can tell, the only thing Romney is offering if he is elected is more tax breaks for the uber rich and sh!t on a shingle for the rest of America. That's quite a campaign platform, and to think that platform, along with millions of campaign dollars, will make it a close race. As great as this country is, how we elect presidents and Congressmen isn't.

I agree Marsha

Remember the Golden Rule Salmo: He who has the gold makes the rules.

In this country it's "He who has the Gold can convince half the people in the country that the schit he's about to feed them is good for them, so they will vote for him, eat the schit, and smile all the way home"...how Republicans have managed to convince millions of people to vote in direct contravention of their own well being is one of the biggest mysteries of American Democracy.

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Todd

Mouth full by mouth full.

"The biggest mysteries of American Democracy" is how anyone with half a brain can argue for either side. That bullsh!ter at 1600 can find anyone and anything to blame for his F-ed up three plus years but you can bet he will take no responsibility for it. It is always someone else and people like Todd would sh1t purple twinkies if someone on the other side had the same nerve. Be on here burning the place down with how much of a POS they are. Yet when Obullsh1ta does he defends and deflects.

The biggest mystery in American Democracy is how anyone could still believe either political party. And even bigger than that is how they can be screwed by "thier" party yet attack and attack about how "stupid" and "full of sh1t" the other side is.

TFF :>)

GW Bush and I had a little chuckle over that one.

Way to figure out the point I was making.

You "party first, country second" types WILL vote for your guy no matter what a trainwreck he is.

Don't worry Aunty. You're not alone among the millions who vote for what they consider the lesser evil. Dumb me tho, I actually thought Obama was enough of a political outsider that I thought he wasn't evil. Didn't take him long to don that hat however. GDITMMM! At least I identified Bush's handlers as evil incarnate from the get go.

Problem is, after WA's top-two primary, there will be no choices on the Nov. ballot other than Romney and Obama.

Gee, AM...........I didn't vote for Obama.

I voted for Ron Paul - but don't let that stop your fictional story-telling adventure.

Try a little harder next time - that wasn't your best effort.

Except that I wasn't talking about you when I mention those that will vote for a trainwreck due to party allegiance.

Other than that, you're right on the mark.

Shows what a dum fuk you are.

Go kill yourself, butthole. You had to edit THAT? I'm sure everyone can identify who the dumb f.uck is. In case you're wondering, it's you.............dumbfuck.



AM, I was responding to Hank, but I pressed the "reply" button on your post. My post wasn't directed at you.

Why so angry little man?

You really need to get out of Shelton.

Sol Duc - call me little man to my face, bitch.

You would need a ladder for that Dan.

Crazy in bed I bet ?

Nobody thinks I could kill them.

But then the daisies pop up.

I dunno Dan you kill me....in a good sorta' way.

You're my huckleberry even if Hank's your geranium.

lol

Aunty,

In a world of electoral evils, you're making some sense to me. However, because non-issues like gay marriage and abortion and important things like SCOTUS appointees are always on the line, I won't likely lean toward Romney even tho he probably does know one side of a credit and debit sheet from the other. Obama's main asset is that he is on the right side of social issues. If he understands Econ 101, he keeps it well hidden.

You really are a fuckin idiot.

Ascot and all......I had you pegged years ago but your mamby-pamby, pleading desperation made me question myself.

Be assured, your pompass puzzie is only impressing non-nipple broke bitches like Todd, KK or Vedder....no doubt you'll find comfort in that company and considering the combined age...so do I.

Social issues

RVW,

Nice to know that you think so highly of me. It seems like you'd have me turn in my MENSA card. tsk, tsk.

Must be nice to be as one-dimensional as you. Makes deciding without thinking so much easier. Economic solvency isn't much of a win absent social justice (not that Romney is going to do a damn thing to achieve economic advantage for anyone but the have mores, like Bush). You can't eat currency in the end game.

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) lashed out at President Obama during an interview Tuesday, saying the president has "never even had a real job, for God's sake."

Boehner was discussing the presidential election, and accusing President Obama's campaign team of using "over-the-top" rhetoric to distract from his economic record.


"Sometimes I have to catch my breath and slow down because the rhetoric in this campaign is just so over-the-top," Bohener said during an appearance on "Kilmeade and Friends." "And that's because the president's policies have failed. Listen — 93 percent of Americans believe they're a part of the middle class. That's why you hear the president talk about the middle class every day, because he's talking to 93 percent of the American people."

Then the Ohio lawmaker lit into the president's qualifications to discuss job creation.

"But the president has never created a job. He's never even had a real job, for God's sake," Boehner said. "And I can tell you from my dealings with him, he has no idea how the real world, that we actually live in, works."

In the same interview, Boehner blasted Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) for his suggestion on the Senate floor Thursday that Mitt Romney paid no federal income taxes for a decade.

"I don't know how you go out there and make a statement like that without any facts," Boehner said. "It's one of the problems that occurs here in Washington, people run out there without any facts and just make noise. The American people are too smart for this, they'll get to the bottom of this, it clearly is not a fact, and I would think that the Senate majority leader would be smart enough to know that."

Weren't the Republicans the ones crying like little girls when someone in Obama's camp said Romney's wife was out of touch because she'd never had a job of any kind?

And here's crybaby Boner doing the same thing.

Shut up, Boner..............go cry like a girl or something.