It is all the fault of the bush admin. We just followed what the previous admin set up. We had not had a chance to do the accounting as we were so busy in the last three years.


Wait, Wait, Wait, We did do the accounting huh? Then I will not stand for this and take it to the American people blaming it all on Reps in congress. If that does not work we will sweep it under the rug and change topic, has anyone seen Mitts tax returns. Damn Faux news still wont drop it.....tell them we will give a full accounting (in Dec). This type of behavior is not exceptable(without large camp donations).

GDITMMM!!!! We had bonuses slashed to zero or thereabouts and no COLAs the last two fiscal years. So while the rest of the federal rank and file has been "taking one for the team," the GSA mucky poobahs have been draining the treasury (as if there were really any money in it). GSA works right next to the federal budget; you'd think they might have noticed there is a recession going on. GDITMMM!!

I camp a lot and fish various areas around the US and every retired person I meet worked for the Govt. a few were pilots. I meet almost zero that retired from private companies. Expensive RV's , Nice condo's lots of travel are the norm. . I rent a house from a guy in Belize, my age retired fireman also has a condo in Fla. a 30' boat at both places. You may have avg. pay now but you get to retire early and have similar pay the rest of your life + huge bennies. Cry me a river.

What? I worked private and this ain't Europe and my 21 ft. TJ ain't no yacht! Gotta go rip the biz agent on this rotten deal!

Ahhhhhhhhhhh, it really is Political Nasty Time on this one if you Libtards wanna dig just under the surface. You see, Federales that get bonuses are what is termed "Executive Service" (SES), and guess what boys and girls, Executive Service is Political Appointment Territory, not Civil Service employees. Civil Servants do not get to participate in those bonuses.

And these yahoos are NOT Bush's Fault.

A few bad apples spoil it for the hard working GSA employees.

GSA bonuses

Rep. Donna Edwards, D-Md., spoke emotionally about a female GSA employee whom she saw burst into tears because she works hard, gets no bonuses and attends no conferences, “but her agency is in the headlines every day. GSA needs to get its house in order. We cannot take it anymore,” Edwards said. “I am disgusted.”

Mica should write laws regulating private sector bonuses, conferences, CEO salaries, etc.

How would you feel if your hard earned bonus was taken?

" Biz agent? Well, there ya go. A union keeps the worker in his place! "

Yup AM ............. or the membership. Now about that yacht ......

TJ is out of touch. Reagan changed civil service in 1984. All who joined the federal service since then are in the same Social Security retirement system as every other working American. No more retire at an early age with 30 years service and get 60% of your high 3 for the rest of your life.

When I retire I'll be eligible for SS (if it's still around), a small annuity pension both I and the gov't pay into (I guess it's like a SS supplement), and my TSP (Thrift Savings Plan) that's like a limited 401 K. Which is one reason I am still working. The TSP is the bigger part of my retirement, and after the hits it's taken, continuing to work seems like my best plan. The health care plan is probably the best part, since in retirement I will be able to stay in my same plan and pay the employee share, same as while working. State workers can stay in their plan, but have to pay the entire premium.

I encounter retired folks all over, from both public and private sectors, and they all seem to have been in the right place at the right time, with their good pensions, RVs, condos, etc. My buy high, sell low strategy keeps me driving a car that gets decent mileage, pulling a 16' Lund, and camping on gravel bars with grizzly bears when I'm able to fly to a fishing destination, unless it's the tropics. Then I rent a thatched roof hut.

You need to get out more AM its not uncommon to see 1/2 to 3/4 of a $millon in hardware sitting in an RV spot between the RV and the boat. Even tent camping is expensive for the avg joe anymore . Salmo cry poor all you want the single largest block of institutional investors in the US are public employee pension funds. You said you were retiring next year I bet you are well below the avg retirement age of public company employees.

TJ,

I ain't crying poor, but I'm far from the public sector crowd you described. You also know a whole lot less than you think you do. And I'm older than my pre-84 gov't peers who retired 5 to 8 years ago. I'm not certain, but won't retire until I can get full SS in a little more than 2 years when I'll be 10 or 11 years older than the folks on the old civil service system. If I'd joined federal service right out of college I could have retired comfortably 8 years ago and maybe have some of those accuterments you described earlier. I feel like I need to max my SS and continue investing more in TSP to afford retirement.

Nice Inheritance trumps all sectors!

Nice Inheritance / minus exwife = 65

He's the same TheKing he's always been.

Did you guys forget what a f'n goat he is?

Yep I am wrong thats why you are posting on a thread about excessive govt. pay ,why there are news story's that every state, city and county is having financial problems because of the excessive pension burden. A simple lesson; you have two ears and one mouth for a reason you should listen twice as often as you speak, Mr 9026 soon to be 9027

"You think anyone making over $35,000 a year is a fat cat if the money comes from taxpayers. " No at all. I think that if they take a job for $35k a year they should not cry about it if they took it becasue after 20 years they get $30k a year in retirement + full benefits.

A lot of retirees have lost a whole lot of money on investments in the last decade. A classic red herring

Again, look at the members on this very board who can afford fancy fishing vacations outside the US. Most have never worked for the government.


Dave Vedder ? Salmo?

TJ is must as much of a fool as when he used to be TK...maybe more.

Fish on...

Todd

You knew she'd show up around election time shooting off her hole.

If I cared what a midget from Shelton stuck in the 80's or a loud mouth debarred lawyer thought I might be devastated.

If we cared what a little girl that ran away when Sol threatened to beat your ass thought, we might be devastated.

the Wives probably work for the govt. too!


"And if you think $30,000 a year for retirement (that they likely contributed to), will lead to half a million in "toys", you need to avoid all that manure you shovel."


No but the school principal making $150k a year retiring at $100k + a year after 20 and the being rehired by the district as a consultant making $250 a year can. He lives down the road in a $2.2 million dollar home has $50k horses etc etc. Lots of examples of police, firefighters, military as well.

If you think thats what happend you would be wrong as usual. You keep holding SOl up as some kind of hero, the poor guy had addiction issues obvious depression real friends would have helped him , not egged on desrtuctive behavior by laughing at it. Have you been over to help the two daughters he left behind or are you just a big mouth. I know the answer.

..and this thread was going so well. :\

I think that's exactly what happened, because it was.

I'm not holding Sol up as anything - I'm holding you up as a little weiner that ran away...........and you are.

As for the rest - tell us the answer, smart guy. Maybe Tim's wife can log in and tell everybody you're full of sh!t - because you are. Tell us about how you could have helped him, and how you know about what everyone else tried to do.

You're just a sad and pitiful little man.

Just a quick search and the first answer.


A typical full-time state or local government worker made $78,853 in wages and benefits in the third quarter of 2006, $25,771 more than a typical private-sector worker, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reports. The difference was $7,604 in 2000. The compensation advantage holds true for all types of public workers, from teachers to laborers and managers. Better benefits for government workers is the biggest reason for the growing compensation gap.




I understand your guilt and your defensiveness DanS. Its hard to hear that you were a lousy friend. Hopefully you will not repeat the poor behavior.

The funny thing is, Tim would kick the sh!t right out of you for playing that weak card. Then again, you'd run away before he could get ahold of you like the coward you are............just like last time.

Go kill yourself, sh!tstain. Nobody will care.

Your anger says all that needs to be said. The end.

So does your cowardice.

Don't go away mad - just go away.

"The compensation advantage holds true for all types of public workers, from teachers to laborers and managers"

You missed a line.

DanS, the definition of a weiner is someone who picks a fight with someone and then cries about how hard the other guy fights back. To compound the weiner behavior he wants someone else to beat the [Bleeeeep!] out of the other person. So you are as a deined a real small weiner. It is also low rent but hey that defines Shelton.

Say that in Shelton, pussy.

Oh that's right - you're a run-away-coward, with a bigger mouth than sack.

Never mind, then.

It s a non event unless you are a wiener, SOL had an issue with an argument he was losing and said he would kick my ass. I sent him and email with an offer to meet up and discuss it. He declined we traded a few emails and that was the end of it. WeinerS will call BS because that’s what wieners do. It was all on his Mapinc company email and Nofish can retrieve it and post it if he wants. I decided it was getting stupid so I checked out for a while. Wieners with no life try to blow stuff like this out of proportion much like a drunk hobag in a cowboy bar. All very low rent , childish and un educated whoops I insulted wienerS again.

Wow now he wants a whole city to fight his battles for him. New standard of wienerism.

TJ/TK/TQ needs to review the story about the retarded guy in his underwear with the bag of dogshit...though something tells me he would not only fail to find it instructive, but would continue to act like a fuckin dipshit and fool.

Fish on...

Todd

Tood, RVW's last reply to you siad it all nothing more needs to be said.

That's not how Tim said it went down.

I think you're a liar, Queenie.

I don't give a rip if you say disparaging things about Shelton - I haven't lived there in 25 years. I just know you're too big a pussy to say disparaging things about Shelton where someone from Shelton could hear you.

Prove me wrong, Sally. Go say some sh!t about Shelton in Shelton.

Or run away like you did last time.

Whichever.

Wow. A new low in name dropping.

The master of trash talking takes umbrage to somone trash talking . You are confilcted

AM , Boring and HS level as usual.

When you're so fuckin stupid that you have to leave it to RvW to talk for you, then the IQ64 retard with a mouthful of dogshit might not be you...you might be the guy who french kisses him and then lights himself on fire.

Fish on...

Todd

And the voice of reason brings us back on topic. Thanks FP.

Everything you own, owns you.