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#788612 - 09/26/12 08:53 PM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! ***** [Re: ]
Us and Them Offline
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That sounds really bitter with a tinge of jealousy Stam. I like you better playing the self deprecating hillbilly sage in the roll of the popular kid in the clique much better. Any time you want to call BS on what I know don't be bashful just ask . Sorry I hurt your feelings when I said that killing every coyote means you are a non thinker.
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#788618 - 09/26/12 09:18 PM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! [Re: Us and Them]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 17149
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
I'm sure stam is jealous of you, Elvis. rofl

Just when one thinks you couldn't possibly say dumber sh!t than you say, you raise the bar another notch.

I'm pretty sure stam was trying to pay you a compliment, you f'n cock. Way to make him look like a fool for doing so.

Do the world a favor and go kill yourself.
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#788622 - 09/26/12 09:37 PM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! [Re: Dan S.]
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Dogs are not carriers because they do not typically eat carrion , carrion in the form of dead possums. I don't have to read goggle because I have a full large animal vet library and a large network of farmers and ranchers with 1000s of hours of exp. doctoring hooves animals. Every farm I know is loaded with dogs and cats they all [Bleeeeep!] in their pastures non will tell you that a horse came down with Epm because of it. However when opossums move in to the area it starts to show up. Very few cases of systoma related illness in cattle are recognized because of the short duration on the ranch of steer and cows are not eaten as often. You typically notice it at butcher as intramuscular cysts. Cattle will get scour or some other symptomatic illness and gets treated for that . I know very few people that run labs on their herd unless something is wide spread or they are selling high end breeding stock.

Nancy , who cares?


Edited by Tom Joad (09/26/12 09:39 PM)
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#788652 - 09/27/12 12:02 AM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! [Re: ]
Somethingsmellsf Offline
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Registered: 12/15/02
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Loc: Ahhhhh, damn dog!
Like I said before, didn't we get rid of this guy already?


Fishy
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#788653 - 09/27/12 12:05 AM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! [Re: ]
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Just a couple of success stories from the property that border's mine.



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#788676 - 09/27/12 06:37 AM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: blue water pro
Prefer to see them animate



One of mine is sleeping, the other riding a bike.
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#788678 - 09/27/12 07:41 AM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! [Re: Dogfish]
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A few good gems buried in here amongst the usual dark side clutter smile

Well said Sal and Todd!

Carry on Dogfish!

I for one like the idea of sharing the wilderness with wolves, grizzlies, wolverines etc.... and am glad that the concerned parties, mainly the state and wolf huggers are sticking to the states wolf management plan. I still think the WMP should not include any westside packs or a fixed number of packs before opening up a hunting season but should look at impacts on a case by case basis to determine hunting seasons/areas.

As for predator hunting. I'm not a predator hunter but may help a farmer out this winter by culling a few coyotes in hopes of being allowed to hunt geese/chucker on his property. Other then that I don't really plan on hunting predators but do carry a black bear and cougar tag just in case. If the opportunity arises and I feel at that time that it is a good representative of that species and it's not too far from the truck I'll pursue it. Or not. Well see. I did knock an arrow earlier this year and tried to circle around an ~150# black bear but he was sneaky and we never did see him again. If'n I happened to find him at 20 yards broadside I'd probably have taken him. Or not smile

I will add that I've been munching on bear jerky this year and it's pretty yummy.
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#788680 - 09/27/12 08:21 AM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: blue water pro
The black wolves are my favorite...not sure why...yeah coolness factor for sure. Some great post here, agree no problem with protecting ones own livestock etc.




I like them too.
My friend Mark is one of the most successful wolf hunters/trapper/shooters to ever live, he was voted trapper of the year by the Alaska Trapper's association a few years back.

This was a whopper Alpha male.
Wolf sizes are greatly exaggerated, the biggest he has taken of hundreds is about 130lbs.





The heaviest recorded in Yellowstone is 143lbs.
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#788681 - 09/27/12 08:31 AM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! [Re: Salmonella]
Somethingsmellsf Offline
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Registered: 12/15/02
Posts: 4022
Loc: Ahhhhh, damn dog!
That's still pretty freaking big.


Fishy
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#788688 - 09/27/12 10:09 AM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! [Re: Dogfish]
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Originally Posted By: Dogfish
Originally Posted By: blue water pro
Prefer to see them animate



One of mine is sleeping, the other riding a bike.


rofl
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#788694 - 09/27/12 10:37 AM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! [Re: ]
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B W P Nice pics. Fortunately the canines don't carry anywhere as many nasty parasites and microbes as Homo S.


Edited by Illyrian (09/27/12 10:39 AM)

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#788708 - 09/27/12 12:02 PM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! [Re: ]
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sick

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#788714 - 09/27/12 12:24 PM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! [Re: Illyrian]
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Give em all a dirt nap!!

Them wire leashes work great!!!
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#788717 - 09/27/12 12:29 PM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! [Re: Illyrian]
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Originally Posted By: Illyrian
sick


STFU
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#788733 - 09/27/12 01:57 PM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! [Re: Timber]
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Perhaps it's just a coincidence, but non thinkers seem to be predaphopes.

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#788785 - 09/27/12 05:46 PM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! [Re: Illahee]
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Wolf threads, still among the most entertaining reads on the inter-webz. I'm learning more about people than about wolves tho.

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#788798 - 09/27/12 06:48 PM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! [Re: Salmo g.]
Salmonella Offline
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Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
Wolf threads, still among the most entertaining reads on the inter-webz. I'm learning more about people than about wolves tho.


I'm just trying to balance out BWP's sappy, anthropomorphic "the wolf is my brother" posts.

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No wild species deserves extinction.

I have both live wolf photos and dead wolf photos.

Here are some wolfies I shot with a camera...



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#788801 - 09/27/12 06:56 PM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! [Re: Salmonella]
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
WDFW NEWS RELEASE
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
http://wdfw.wa.gov/

September 27, 2012
Contact: Dave Ware, (360) 902-2509

WDFW concludes action to remove Northeast Washington wolf pack

OLYMPIA - The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) concluded its action to eliminate a pack of wolves in Northeast Washington today after an agency marksman killed the pack's alpha male just south of the Canadian border.

WDFW Director Phil Anderson said the wolf was shot this morning from a helicopter. Its death brought to six the number of wolves from the Wedge Pack removed in the past three days, including the alpha female.

"Directing the pack's removal was a very difficult decision, both personally and professionally, but it was necessary to reset the stage for sustainable wolf recovery in this region," he said. "Now we will refocus our attention on working with livestock operators and conservation groups to aggressively promote the use of non-lethal tactics to avoid wolf-livestock conflict."

With the latest operation concluded, Anderson said the department would continue to monitor wolf activity in the Wedge region as it is doing in other parts of the state.

The department initiated removal of the Wedge Pack late last week in an effort to put a stop to its persistent attacks on livestock from the herd of the Diamond M Ranch in northern Stevens County. Since July, the wolves had killed or injured at least 17 calves and cows from the herd.

The pack takes its name from the triangular shape of the Washington state portion of its range, which is bordered by the Columbia and Kettle rivers and Canada. Its elimination leaves the state with seven confirmed wolf packs and four suspected packs, most of which range in the remote, rugged forests of Northeast Washington.

WDFW began to lethally remove wolves from the pack in early August, as its pattern of predation began to escalate despite non-lethal efforts by the rancher and the department to prevent the attacks. A WDFW marksman killed a non-breeding member of the pack on August 7, and about two weeks later, biologists found the decomposed carcass of a young wolf within the Diamond M herd's grazing area. The young wolf had not been shot, and the cause of death could not be determined.

Teams of WDFW staff remained in the Wedge through August, trapping extensively and tracking the movements of the alpha male, which had been fitted with a location-transmitting radio collar.

However, Anderson said none of the rancher's or the department's efforts to change the pack's behavior succeeded, and attacks on the Diamond M herd increased through mid-September.

"Ultimately, it became clear that this pack was preying on livestock as its primary food source, and that our actions had not changed that pattern," Anderson said. "The independent wolf experts we consulted agreed with our staff that removal of the pack was the only viable option."

With the support of key conservation and livestock organizations, the department announced on Sept. 21 it would remove the pack to create the opportunity for wolves that are not habituated to preying on livestock to re-colonize the region.

Anderson said he looked forward to continuing to work with interested groups on a broad range of non-lethal management strategies under the terms of the Wolf Conservation and Management Plan approved by the state Fish and Wildlife Commission in December 2011.

WDFW is urging livestock operators to enter into cooperative, cost-sharing agreements with the department that specify non-lethal measures they will use to minimize wolf-livestock conflict.

"Lethal removal will remain a wolf management option, but we will use it only as a last resort, after all reasonable non-lethal options are exhausted," Anderson said.

He said he respects the opinions of the many citizens who contacted the department to share their support for or opposition to its actions. "We know these issues spark strong feelings among Washington residents across the state, which is why we are committed to conducting our business openly and transparently," he said.
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#788807 - 09/27/12 07:10 PM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! [Re: ]
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My buddy is THE aerial gunner in central Alaska's unit 13.

PLEASE DO NOT CONFUSE AERIAL POPULATION REDUCTION WITH HUNTING!

I find myself screaming at the TV & computer every time I see someone complain about how unsporting the aerial shoots are.
They were never meant to be sporting any more than the exterminator is in trying to rid a house of rats or roaches.
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#788921 - 09/28/12 01:43 AM Re: Spokane wolf pack to be eradicated! [Re: ]
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just so we're clear, the wolves weren't eradicated, they starved. the white dudes eradicated the buffalo, wolves starved. coyotes moved in to take alpha predator status, feeding primarily on small game. traditional range of the coyote is east of the mississippi.
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