#800298 - 11/14/12 11:04 PM
Re: Beads for Steelhead Jigs
[Re: Makai]
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WINNER
Registered: 01/11/03
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Loc: Olypen
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Hook size is the determining factor......beads from 6mm to 10mm all work. Big hook, big bead(s).....small hook, small bead(s).
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#800300 - 11/14/12 11:18 PM
Re: Beads for Steelhead Jigs
[Re: ParaLeaks]
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ive tied like 6 jigs, never used beads...
im also a sh!tty float fisherman, and havent even landed a fish yet because i dont practice the method religiously
take this for what its worth, its only my opinion...
make the beads smaller than the jig head, or the exact same size, no larger, preferably smaller, bigger beads would likely screw with the action you are trying to get the jig to do...
i could be totally wrong, but thats just what my mindset tells me when i start tying the things...
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#800308 - 11/14/12 11:53 PM
Re: Beads for Steelhead Jigs
[Re: Makai]
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The Beav
Registered: 02/22/09
Posts: 2741
Loc: Oregon Central Coast
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Are you talking about using troutbeads pinned to the hook as the head, or used on a 1/8oz weighted head hook, and beads as the body? Here is a sample of one I made with "Eggheads" beads by troutbeads. Eggheads are only available in one size; 7mm. They are great for jig bodies, though I've found that for a snug, secure fit, first wrap a length of medium sized chenille around the hook shank, THEN a couple drops of head cement, THEN slide the eggheads beads up and into place. 
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#800309 - 11/15/12 12:00 AM
Re: Beads for Steelhead Jigs
[Re: Twitch]
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Ranger Danger
Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 3076
Loc: AK
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What Twitch said. I think those egg heads are a great way to go. I do make some using the standard 6mm and 8mm trout beads, but you have to make the holes a bit bigger to accommodate a typical steelhead worthy jig hook.  
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#800310 - 11/15/12 12:01 AM
Re: Beads for Steelhead Jigs
[Re: Twitch]
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SRC Poser
Registered: 11/04/10
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that jig is MONEY twitch!
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#800312 - 11/15/12 12:05 AM
Re: Beads for Steelhead Jigs
[Re: Twitch]
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King of the Beach
Registered: 12/11/02
Posts: 5223
Loc: Carkeek Park
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I like a 6 mm bead. I buy the fluorescent Salmon Red beads from Cabelas and drill them out with a 9/64" bit.
I've found the hole in the Trout Beads to be to big for my liking.
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#800313 - 11/15/12 12:08 AM
Re: Beads for Steelhead Jigs
[Re: Twitch]
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WINNER
Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
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Twitch ties some gr8 jigs....I have a few of his.
I've fished beads long before they became popular and long before "trout beads" have been around. I used to drift them, mostly single without yarn.....very effective in clear water. As far as 1/8 oz float-fished jigs......sounds pretty light to me. Maybe OK for frog water and small streams, but keeping the jig down is problematic when the water is faster because the top water is so much faster than the water in the strike zone. It's not that it won't work, it will.....but it is problematic and I wouldn't recommend it for someone starting out. It's not the bead(s) that impart any "action"....it's the material.....especially when fished beneath a float. I'm not dissing you at all. Experiment and think like a fish.....you'll get it.
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#800315 - 11/15/12 12:22 AM
Re: Beads for Steelhead Jigs
[Re: ParaLeaks]
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Ranger Danger
Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 3076
Loc: AK
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1/8th oz too light? I like a 1/16th oz jig quite a bit and never fish heavier than 1/8th. Use an inline or keel style sinker between your float and yig to keep your offering in the zone rather than a bulkier jig. Steelhead seem to eat a nice tight package more than a big sloppy one  If I had to pick a single jig for steelhead it would be pink&white marabou tail with red beads for the body. Something about that color+contrast combo seems to work.
Edited by ColeyG (11/15/12 12:38 AM) Edit Reason: Said heavy, meant light
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#800320 - 11/15/12 12:29 AM
Re: Beads for Steelhead Jigs
[Re: ColeyG]
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King of the Beach
Registered: 12/11/02
Posts: 5223
Loc: Carkeek Park
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1/8 isn't to light Slabby. I think that is the most common size folks use for steelies, with some using 1/4 oz. If you can always add spit shot to your leader as well.
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#800322 - 11/15/12 12:33 AM
Re: Beads for Steelhead Jigs
[Re: ColeyG]
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1/8th oz too heavy? I like a 1/16th oz jig quite a bit and never fish heavier than 1/8th. Use an inline or keel style sinker between your float and yig to keep your offering in the zone rather than a bulkier jig. Steelhead seem to eat a nice tight package more than a big sloppy one  If I had to pick a single jig for steelhead it would be pink&white marabou tail with red beads for the body. Something about that color+contrast combo seems to work.  You trying to pick on me? Good luck with that.  I suggested that 1/8 oz might be too light.....not too heavy. You supported the idea by suggesting additional weight. Oops.  Coley is very experienced for a young feller, but if you've seen where he fishes......anybody could catch a truckload of fish there.  Don't be afraid of large offerings......they are often deadly.....very deadly. All old fishermen have done the light and ultra light thing to death......fun and re-visited countless times over the years.....seems to be some unexplainable attraction to the idea......but in the long run, it doesn't out-produce. Like I said......experiment.
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#800323 - 11/15/12 12:39 AM
Re: Beads for Steelhead Jigs
[Re: ParaLeaks]
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Ranger Danger
Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 3076
Loc: AK
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Light, right, that is what I meant to say  Picking on? Certainly no, just celebrating our differences.
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#800359 - 11/15/12 08:36 AM
Re: Beads for Steelhead Jigs
[Re: stonefish]
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The Beav
Registered: 02/22/09
Posts: 2741
Loc: Oregon Central Coast
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I like a 6 mm bead. I buy the fluorescent Salmon Red beads from Cabelas and drill them out with a 9/64" bit.
I've found the hole in the Trout Beads to be to big for my liking. If you like 6mm red, but (like many) are fed up with drilling, First Bite Jigs sells them pre-drilled. I hate drilling!
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#800360 - 11/15/12 09:09 AM
Re: Beads for Steelhead Jigs
[Re: Twitch]
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My Waders are Moist
Registered: 11/20/08
Posts: 3419
Loc: PNW
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So what is the technique for getting the marabou inside the beads? I like that look a lot.
One word regarding beads, "mottled".
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#800366 - 11/15/12 10:00 AM
Re: Beads for Steelhead Jigs
[Re: Twitch]
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King of the Beach
Registered: 12/11/02
Posts: 5223
Loc: Carkeek Park
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I like a 6 mm bead. I buy the fluorescent Salmon Red beads from Cabelas and drill them out with a 9/64" bit.
I've found the hole in the Trout Beads to be to big for my liking. If you like 6mm red, but (like many) are fed up with drilling, First Bite Jigs sells them pre-drilled. I hate drilling! Thanks for the tip Eric. Once I get through the 500 pack of beads I have that will be the way to go.
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