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#815633 - 01/16/13 06:18 PM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: Sky-Guy]
Dogfish Offline
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Originally Posted By: Sky-Guy
Sol Duc, keepin' the Paranoia Real!


Pot, meet Kettle. wink

Rather surprised that your response was an "all in" to the EO's. Not even a reserved response.
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#815636 - 01/16/13 06:22 PM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: Todd]
Illyrian Offline
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Registered: 12/20/09
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Loc: Spokane, wa
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#815651 - 01/16/13 06:42 PM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
Tillanook Offline
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Registered: 05/10/07
Posts: 335
Loc: Oregon
Your absolutely right I don't have alot of experience with semiautomatic weapons, I've been around a few but I never saw need for one. I'm just a guy who grew up with shotguns and rifles and a few revolvers. I did buy a .40 Springfield XDM last year to keep under the pillow.

I think that keeping a close eye on the df's out there that have access to weapons would be a much more affective approach than trying to gather up peoples assault weapons. But I don 't think thats going to happen.

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#815658 - 01/16/13 07:00 PM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: Dogfish]
Sky-Guy Offline
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Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7130
Loc: Everett
Originally Posted By: Dogfish
Originally Posted By: Sky-Guy
Sol Duc, keepin' the Paranoia Real!


Pot, meet Kettle. wink

Rather surprised that your response was an "all in" to the EO's. Not even a reserved response.



Uh, I'm no kettle in the Paranoia game.
Regarding the EO's, that may have been a bit quick on the trigger. Now that I read what the new legislation will cost, I am not in support.. I see Obama was happy to increase spending A TON in support these new orders. At some point you have to ask yourself if DC is purposely driving us off a cliff....but I dont ask those questions here, because then I'd be labled Paranoid by half of you smile

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/least-45-billion-new-spending-gun-control_696120.html

Among the new spending the president proposed:

• $4 billion for the president’s proposal “to help keep 15,000 cops on the streets in cities and towns across the country.” (That is roughly $266,000 per police officer.)

• $20 million to “give states stronger incentives to make [relevant] data available [for background checks] … “$50 million for this purpose in FY2014”

• “$14 million to help train 14,000 more police officers and other public and private personnel to respond to active shooter situations.”

• “$10 million for the Centers for Disease Control to conduct further research, including investigating the relationship between video games, media images, and violence.”

• $20 million to expand the National Violent Death Reporting System.

• $150 million to “put up to 1,000 new school resource officers and school counselors on the job.”
• “$30 million of one-time grants to states to help their school districts develop and implement emergency management plans.”

• $50 million to help 8,000 schools “create safer and more nurturing school climates.”

• $15 million to “provide “Mental Health First Aid” training for teachers.”

• $40 million for school districts to “work with law enforcement, mental health agencies, and other local organizations to assure students with mental health issues or other behavioral issues are referred to the services they need.”

• $25 million for state-based strategies that support “young people ages 16 to 25 with mental health or substance abuse issues.”

• $25 million to “offer students mental health services for trauma or anxiety, conflict resolution programs, and other school-based violence prevention strategies.”

• $50 million to “train social workers, counselors, psychologists, and other mental health professionals.”
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#815661 - 01/16/13 07:20 PM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Registered: 11/05/04
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Originally Posted By: Sky-Guy
At some point you have to ask yourself if DC is purposely driving us off a cliff....but I dont ask those questions here, because then I'd be labled Paranoid by half of you smile


Psssst, Don't tell anyone but I'm afraid it would be more that half.

But not to worry, the best of the board realizes that your quip was tongue in cheek.
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#815670 - 01/16/13 07:48 PM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: Tillanook]
Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
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Loc: McCleary, WA
Originally Posted By: Tillanook

I think that keeping a close eye on the df's out there that have access to weapons would be a much more affective approach than trying to gather up peoples assault weapons. But I don 't think thats going to happen.


Really? Keeping an eye on me? Whatever for? I'm a banker, live fairly clean, been president of my school board, ran a bond levy for my kids school, hobby farmer, good father and husband, I have proposed legislation and saw it passed, even shook the governor's hand after she signed it. Pillar of the community, I am. No really, I am. How often, either openly or behind the scenes have I helped folks here and asked for nothing in return? More than probably 99% of the folks here. Don't mean to brag. It is just the facts.

When you need help protecting your rights, let me know. Oh wait, keeping you apprised of the situation at hand, and letting you know that you may wish to stock up on your 16rd mags before they are legislated out of reach might be considered being helpful. Also, as a bit of safety advice, bedside table or a quick safe would be a better option than under your pillow. Would hate to see a ND take out a fellow fisherman..

Take care, I wish you well.
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#815674 - 01/16/13 07:55 PM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: Dogfish]
Sol Duc Offline
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You renegade!!! moose
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#815675 - 01/16/13 07:57 PM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: Dogfish]
stam Offline
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Registered: 11/03/04
Posts: 12394
Loc: wherever I want to be...
Originally Posted By: Dogfish


Really? Keeping an eye on me? Whatever for? I'm a banker, live fairly clean, been president of my school board, ran a bond levy for my kids school, hobby farmer, good father and husband, I have proposed legislation and saw it passed, even shook the governor's hand after she signed it. Pillar of the community, I am. No really, I am. How often, either openly or behind the scenes have I helped folks here and asked for nothing in return? More than probably 99% of the folks here. Don't mean to brag. It is just the facts.

When you need help protecting your rights, let me know. Oh wait, keeping you apprised of the situation at hand, and letting you know that you may wish to stock up on your 16rd mags before they are legislated out of reach might be considered being helpful. Also, as a bit of safety advice, bedside table or a quick safe would be a better option than under your pillow. Would hate to see a ND take out a fellow fisherman..

Take care, I wish you well.


I am better for knowing you. Thank you.
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#815677 - 01/16/13 08:08 PM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: stam]
NOFISH Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/15/00
Posts: 2961
Loc: Olalla, WA
Originally Posted By: stam
Originally Posted By: Dogfish


Really? Keeping an eye on me? Whatever for? I'm a banker, live fairly clean, been president of my school board, ran a bond levy for my kids school, hobby farmer, good father and husband, I have proposed legislation and saw it passed, even shook the governor's hand after she signed it. Pillar of the community, I am. No really, I am. How often, either openly or behind the scenes have I helped folks here and asked for nothing in return? More than probably 99% of the folks here. Don't mean to brag. It is just the facts.

When you need help protecting your rights, let me know. Oh wait, keeping you apprised of the situation at hand, and letting you know that you may wish to stock up on your 16rd mags before they are legislated out of reach might be considered being helpful. Also, as a bit of safety advice, bedside table or a quick safe would be a better option than under your pillow. Would hate to see a ND take out a fellow fisherman..

Take care, I wish you well.


I am better for knowing you. Thank you.


+infinity thumbs Dogfish is the Salt of the Earth.
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#815687 - 01/16/13 08:50 PM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: NOFISH]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 15199
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Yeah.............if you have a problem with Andy, I gotta tell ya, it's probably you that's not thinking it through all the way.
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#815690 - 01/16/13 08:56 PM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: stam]
Black Bart Offline
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Registered: 04/28/10
Posts: 304
Loc: Adna
Stam is right. I too am better for it.

Doing things out of pocket for people he does not even know is what Dogfish is all about. All of us Lewis County Regulars are enriched by his presence in the next County over.

Thank you Andy for who you are and what you do.

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#815700 - 01/16/13 09:30 PM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: ]
ParaLeaks Offline
WINNER

Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10513
Loc: Olypen
Well, what I read originally that was going to be proposed or EO'd was drastically different than what was signed.

I was all prepared to ask Todd if he considered it "gun grabbing" since he has been so adamant about there never being a gun grab.
As yet I think there is not......what the future will bring.....???
So I'll table the question until later.
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#815716 - 01/16/13 10:15 PM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: ParaLeaks]
Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10978
Loc: McCleary, WA
http://youtu.be/IxUaIdiUUrI

Shenanigans that were narrowly avoided in NY this week. Check out the time around minute 4. NY was considering confiscation.
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#815722 - 01/16/13 10:20 PM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: Dogfish]
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Spawner

Registered: 10/26/02
Posts: 864
Loc: Portland Or
Originally Posted By: Dogfish
Originally Posted By: Tillanook

I think that keeping a close eye on the df's out there that have access to weapons would be a much more affective approach than trying to gather up peoples assault weapons. But I don 't think thats going to happen.


Really? Keeping an eye on me? Whatever for? I'm a banker, live fairly clean, been president of my school board, ran a bond levy for my kids school, hobby farmer, good father and husband, I have proposed legislation and saw it passed, even shook the governor's hand after she signed it. Pillar of the community, I am. No really, I am. How often, either openly or behind the scenes have I helped folks here and asked for nothing in return? More than probably 99% of the folks here. Don't mean to brag. It is just the facts.

When you need help protecting your rights, let me know. Oh wait, keeping you apprised of the situation at hand, and letting you know that you may wish to stock up on your 16rd mags before they are legislated out of reach might be considered being helpful. Also, as a bit of safety advice, bedside table or a quick safe would be a better option than under your pillow. Would hate to see a ND take out a fellow fisherman..

Take care, I wish you well.


I have never met you personally, but if you ever want to fish the columbia or willamette, PM me and the seat is yours. It'd be an honor to have you in my boat.
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#815735 - 01/16/13 10:34 PM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: Illyrian]
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Spawner

Registered: 07/21/08
Posts: 962
Loc: Monroe, WA
I am pro-gun. However, I agreed with a lot of the 23 "orders" from Obummer even though i think he's a dam nub. Should have been a vote through Congress... I strongly disagree however with most of the "proposals" which includes a ban on mags holding over 10 rounds and a AWB. Thankfully, those are the 2 least likely to get passed. I want prices to go back to "semi" normal.

In a self defense situation i want the MOST rounds available. The two guns i carry most of the time both hold over 10 rounds and one is a compact... The last AWB did nothing and there used in less than 1% of gun violence/crime. They are however used on a daily basis for hunting, target shooting/competitive shooting, training classes and for personal defense. For every 1 unfortunate mass shooting with a AR-15, there used hundreds to several thousands of times for self defense... A buddy in AZ a few weeks ago shot two home burglars with a AR-15.


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#815740 - 01/16/13 10:41 PM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: ]
blackmouth Offline
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Registered: 11/05/04
Posts: 2595
Loc: right place/wrong time
Originally Posted By: Banned User
That's because yer a total fuking dumshit scabby


Perhaps it's time to consider another self imposed bann again KK, and if you do please remember that you will be missed, ?
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#815744 - 01/16/13 10:48 PM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: Rossiman]
Sol Duc Offline
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Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 15578
Loc: Copalis Beach
Every FTF gun deal I've ever done, the buyer bettter have a valid WDL in addition to a CCW. Or they don't get a gun from me. thumbs
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#815769 - 01/16/13 11:33 PM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: Sol Duc]
Rossiman Offline
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Registered: 07/21/08
Posts: 962
Loc: Monroe, WA
Originally Posted By: Sol Duc
Every FTF gun deal I've ever done, the buyer bettter have a valid WDL in addition to a CCW. Or they don't get a gun from me. thumbs
Same here... Good rule to have!
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#815784 - 01/17/13 12:40 AM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: Rossiman]
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10978
Loc: McCleary, WA
http://youtu.be/lmPCRJJFlKA

Same assemblyman from NY discussing the issues with this legislation. Basically, the bill was released Sunday night, they voted on it Monday, and provisions as they apply to law abiding citizens took place immediately upon Cuomo signing the bill. Provisions that apply to criminals take place in 60 days. There was no opportunity to review the legislation, nor the opportunity for public comment.

So Todd, yes, they intend to come after my firearms unless myself and others, especially our elected officials, stand up and fight and do not cower in a corner.

I can only hope that our elected officials will be as brutally honest as Steve McLaughlin, defend our rights as they are today, and do not make us criminals through legislation.
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#815795 - 01/17/13 01:35 AM Re: And so it starts...... [Re: Dogfish]
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Loc: Copalis Beach
Todd is looking pretty stupid at this point, he needs to STFU already! wink
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