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#825320 - 02/26/13 12:16 AM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: ColeyG]
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Coley,
I've used two UV cures, Clear Cure Goo and Loon Knot Sense.
I really like it. Just zap it with the light and you are done. Way easier then turning epoxy.
After it is cured, there is a slight tackiness. You can remove that with a alcohol wipe or coat it with Hard as Nails. I use the Hard as Nails.
The tackiness will go away if you set it out in the sunlight. Good luck trying to find some of that at this time of the year. wink
My CCG light cures Knot Sense.

Other brand of UV cure are Bug Bond, Tuffleye, Diamond Hard and Solarez.

If you go on YouTube and search for "uv cures fly tying" you find some videos on the various products. This will give you a general idea of how it cures.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=KhZUWNKPF-o

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#825374 - 02/26/13 12:27 PM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: stonefish]
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More good work Coley! You're a regular pro, except for working for free. I've become partial to a tarpon fly, whose name eludes me at the moment, but it's got a rabbit strip tail and a wide, flat head. I haven't figured out how to tie that head yet, or what poly material to use, so I buy them at PS Fly Anglers in Tacoma. The tarpon like 'em in black, purple, and blue.

The strip wing flies swim good, but sorry to report that the red one has taken up residence on some submerged wood on the OP the other day. I think I'll save the remainder for the Dean this summer, assuming we make the draw. The flies are too nice to fish real deep.

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#825375 - 02/26/13 12:34 PM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: Salmo g.]
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SG,
Would that be a Toad tarpon fly?
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#825398 - 02/26/13 03:19 PM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: stonefish]
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Ah yes, Toads! I like how they swim, and the baby tarpon love 'em too.

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#878319 - 01/03/14 11:36 PM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: Salmo g.]
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It's that time of year again. Short days and long cold nights means too many hours spent looking for entertainment inside doors, otherwise known as tying season

I've had some fun projects so far this winter twisting up some stuff for friends taking warm water trips.


Lots of boner fish. Mainly the usual Crazy Charlie varieties but with a few new twists and, uh, turds thrown in. The first few batches of twenty some dozen so far this winter.







Moanna's Chili Pepper




Moose Turd





George Bush










I took a stab at knocking off a few of Kelly Galloup's articulated streamers. He's got some pretty badass stuff and I really like his big bug philosophy for trout. Check out his online fly shop and patterns if you haven't already.






A few Boogie Man variants. I didn't have any white deer hair for the heads and instead had to use bucktail. Less than ideal.





A a twist on the Sex Dungeon with a little more sculpin flavor for locale.















Fry patterns rock in the spring in these parts and here are a few quick and dirty versions that have treated me well.



Simple marabou fry. Been digging the UV fly finish, thanks Stonefish. Talk about quick and easy!




DNA fry



Ugly version of a wiggle tail fry...ugly but deadly.






And finally, just to throw a little bit of sacrilege into what could otherwise be a fairly civilized fly fishing discussion, the EZ Thread Yarn Ball factory has been cranking as of late. Must be steelhead season in the PNW?








(pardon the card, sometimes yarnie photos show up elsewhere without permission)




Anyone else dusting off the bobbins to lash feather and fur to hook as of late?



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#878325 - 01/03/14 11:57 PM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: ColeyG]
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Coley,
Glad to hear you like using the uv cures. Really no reason to use epoxy anymore.
Sometimes those blind Charlies will do the trick when nothing else will.
No flies being tied for me recently, but since you mentioned yarn balls I'll add I've been tying up while watching bowl games.
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#878328 - 01/04/14 12:03 AM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: stonefish]
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Great looking stuff!

I dig the prawn jigs. Very fishy looking and nicely done. The articulated rabbit varieties are sweet as well.

Bonus points for a new nightmare application as well smile
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#878365 - 01/04/14 01:50 AM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: ColeyG]
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Sex Dungeon! Where are the Zoo Cougar's Coley?

Stoney - yeah gotta agree with Coley - those prawn jigs are handsome.

Nice job fellas!
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#878408 - 01/04/14 01:34 PM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: NickD90]
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So are you guys using Clear Cure Goo?
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#878491 - 01/04/14 11:34 PM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: SRoffe]
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Sam,
I've used CCG Tack Free in the past. It works fine, but I've found it not to be tack free. As I mentioned in a previous post on this thread, you need to either coat it with Sally Hansen's or get it outside in the sun to get the final cure. I used the CCG light as well.

Over the last six months or so, I've been using a brand called Crystal UV. It is truly tack free as advertised. I buy it from a member on WFF who goes by Silvercreek. I'd highly recommend his high power light. The light is so strong If you don't wand it over the uv cure the cure will start smoking.
It will cost you about $50 to get started with the cure and high power light.
I used it an my salt flies this summer and it held up really well to getting whacked on the beach. I really like his product and don't
really see myself using CCG again.
Here is some info on his product.
http://www.southeastflyfishingforum.com/forum/uv-resin-system-t42344.html
SF


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#878508 - 01/05/14 03:44 AM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: stonefish]
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I've been using Loon's UV Clear Fly Finish and can't imagine anything being easier. It takes about 8 seconds of exposure to the light and the finish is clear, hard, and not tacky at all. No complaints.

They offer two different sized lights and I went with the larger of the two at friends recommendation.

I also went with the thick , which is definitely thick, but that doesn't seem to be a bad thing as you haven plenty of time to move it around and even out proportions before it runs off on you. I'd like to try the thin for the sake of comparison, but again I can't think of anything that needs improving with my current setup. Very glad to have put the epoxy and softtex away.

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#878523 - 01/05/14 11:55 AM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: ColeyG]
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Pretty fancy glue....you talkeetna boyz got all the cool stuff.

Some nice looking stuff in all the pics.

Been tying a bit myself, will try and contribute a pic or two when I get off work.
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#878547 - 01/05/14 01:26 PM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: Banned User]
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...you talkeetna boyz got all the cool stuff


Including all of our teeth.

Jealous quilbilly?
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#878554 - 01/05/14 01:51 PM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: ColeyG]
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Amazing hook trickery.

Great work !
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#878555 - 01/05/14 01:52 PM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: ColeyG]
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Coley,
Good to here the Loon product is working well for you. I was using Knot Sense Sense. A fly shop employee had told me all the Loon uv products were the same, just sold under different names. That obviously isn't true based on your experience.
The light I used may have played a bit in the tackiness of the Knot Sense as well.
I only had one of their tiny key chain type lights so I used the CCG light on it.
I hear you about epoxy. I doubt I'll ever use it again. The uv cures are just way to easy.

Based on my research, it seems the light plays a large role in the final curing process. Different lights may or may not fully cure with the different uv products on the market.
I have noticed that changing the batteries also helps. Fresh batteries seem to improve the curing process.
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#878562 - 01/05/14 02:19 PM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: stonefish]
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Spent a few hours on this married wing fly. Marrying those 75 or so calf fibers for the perfect over wing is tedious business.


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#878571 - 01/05/14 02:55 PM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: stonefish]
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Originally Posted By: stonefish
The light is so strong If you don't wand it over the uv cure the cure will start smoking.


Guess you could give your self a sun burn with that light, eh?

I ordered the CCG stuff from WW yesterday afternoon. I'll see how it does. I'm not liking what you say about the tackiness of the cured finish. Hope I have different results. We'll see. If not, it's not the end of the world, I'll make due.

There are some bait patterns I want to tie that have had epoxy heads. I can see some using some of the thin finish for still water flys.
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#878596 - 01/05/14 05:04 PM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: SRoffe]
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Nailed it wntrrn!

Don't stare at the light Sam, it's pretty, but it hurts.
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#878623 - 01/05/14 06:59 PM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: ColeyG]
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Originally Posted By: ColeyG


Don't stare at the light Sam, it's pretty, but it hurts.


Now you tell me????
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#878626 - 01/05/14 07:08 PM Re: Tying Projects (Ironing the Ascot) [Re: ColeyG]
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...you talkeetna boyz got all the cool stuff


Including allegedly all of our teeth.

Jealous quilbilly?


Not at all....

Teeth are overrated.

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