It sucks, there are alot of us that have to drive during the day for our work and the traffic just keeps getting worse and we keep losing lanes to Bikes and Mass transit.

And at some point you'll say fuk it and use mass transit, that's the master plan, and it doesn't make any difference what you think.
Notice mass transit measures are never on the ballot? They learned years ago that voters lack any forward thinking skills, so now they are all bond driven.

That's why you replied to the post by Dan S., right?

Oh, well it's obvious now that you've explained your idiocy.

I personally have much love for the planners who make parking a full-size pickup impossible to park in the new quite ingenious parking lots complete with beautification islands and such.

It works especially well here in this "Victorian Seaport" town........as in Duh, does that mean there might be trucks pulling boats?

Dipsticks......lots of 'em.

The ignore button is for pussies.

I'd rather tell you what a fuckhead whiner you are.

Until someone can tell me how to carry a unit of plywood across town on the bus effectively and I'll stop driving my truck..

The problem with those ass holes is they think that some ass hole that has sucked off the goverment [Bleeeeep!] their whole career knows more than the ass holes that pay their salary!

There are burbs in the portland area that are refusing to pay trimet taxes and have trimet service.. I know one local business that pays over 250K a month in tri met taxes (it works out to something like 15K an employee who uses public transit on a regular basis to get to work)

Usually a person gains knowledge from attending a institution of higher learning, but I think in your case just the opposite has occurred.

College taught me a little bit, the expirience has filled in the gaps.

I manage multimillion dollar construction projects, employees still need tools and materials, and meetings still have to be attended.. Taking an hour to get to a meeting that is 3 miles away on public transit doesn't make much sense to me, but then again I have to produce something every day at work, probably not a problem you face.

The main goal of most colleges is to teach the student how to think, you seem to have missed that part.

Sounds like a good opportunity to pull yourself up by your bootstraps and just pay the going rate for parking instead of sniveling about it.

Or, you could go the sociailist route, and ask the government to provide you with underpriced parking so you aren't inconvenienced on your ventures into downtown.

Oooooh - you have to produce results at work? I'm sure you are the only one, too. Nobody else here has a job.

Parking will always be a PIA, just pay the fee and get over it. I was complaining about out trimet sitation here in Portland. You know the one that can't get a ballot measure passed to fund it, so they use a back door process to push it or maybe there was a great idea not to long ago to take lanes away on surface streets and turn them into bike lanes. The bicyclists pay so much in road taxes you know they deserve it..

Why don't you tell me in your infinite wisdom how a non fiscally solvent program that most taxpayers don't use being forced upon is in a back door process is a good idea?

Us non thinking folks want to know why that is a good idea..

Did it ever occur to you that a cite's liveability is judged by the region's mass transit system?
Were you also aware that urban sprawl increases the cost of public transportation?
How about decision being made today concerning mass transit will effect our region's livability 80 years from now?
Your critical thinking skills seem lacking, only to be outdone by your lack of doing any research when forming an opinion, and that's generally why your a dumbass most of the time.

Spoken like a true planner.
BTW, planners suck.
Just my personal opinion.

Maybe a good look at quality of life in cities vs rural living needs a good looksee?

urban "sprawl" as is cutely coined by planners happens for a reason......and it isn't cost to live there.

When planners have everyone living in sparrow houses stacked on top of one another and everyone needs a note from whomever rules your ideal domain to wander outside the boundaries, then what?

Shouting from the rooftops again, huh?

Yeah Slab, planning is such a bad idea. Because look how good things turn out in the complete absence of planning. Do you read what you type before you post?

Obviously the best alternative is the one espoused humorously by Click and Clack. Pave it all! Pave everything. Then you can drive anywhere you want, any time. Oh, but there won't be anything when you get there, just more pavement. But at least you won't have to take a frickin' bus or train to get there.

1. No, most people don't move to a city because its got great public tranist. they move there because of Jobs. Reading some recent studies, light rail doesn't actually promote growth when the giant tax credits are removed.
2. Yes, but if a community doesn't want it. It shouldn't be forced upon them. To make it feasible, there has to be usage and in many occupations its not feasible to be without transportation on a daily basis. I could list 20, but seeing as how you are a complete twat I'll save my time.
3. NY NY is still a [Bleeeeep!] hole, and they have had mass transit for along time. Mass transit (trolley systems) were in 65 cities prior to 1910. By 1965 there were only 5 system still in place. Guess what their traffic still sucks. The great thing about Portland is that there the employment centers are spread out throughout the metro area and most people choose to live close to their work.

BTW, pop quiz list 3 public transportation systems that actually pay for themselves.. (make sure to include amortized constructions costs and initial set up costs in those figures)

If I was to commute via public transportation it would increase my time away from home by a minimum of 1 1/2 hours a day.

I don't follow any particular ideology with my head up my ass (or in the sand). It doesn't bother me that you seem to, though. Questioning policies our local government makes is sniveling...? You're a freaking riot.

A multi-billion dollar light rail link from downtown to almost the airport is the first phase of our regional transit system? Ya, that's moving a lot of commuters. It's not even moving many out of town travelers.

Serious question, Dan. Do you see any political balance in the Puget Sound region? If so, where? I don't. Wish there was.

I wouldn't fit in too well in Kansas or Missouri because I don't align with the hard right. They'd be telling me to move to Seattle where they don't get bogged down by teabagging conservative idiots...