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#839589 - 05/20/13 11:47 AM Special draws and a quick bitching-
docspud Offline
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Registered: 11/01/06
Posts: 1563
Loc: Silverdale Wa
Just wanted to put out a reminder and a quick bitch about $13.20 per drawing. Not that I did not put in for all five but son-of-a-bitch.....It has been six years since I have drawn a damn thing. $70 bucks for drawing nothing every year is getting old. Combine that with two kids and a wife to put in for and ouch. After tags, fishing, crab, special drawings, small game......four people=almost a grand.


Why have they doubled the cost in the last couple of years and when did we as sportsman allow the WDFW to get so damn out of control with costs and fees? I hate to see the outdoors become something that less and less people can afford to do and use. What can we do about it?????
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#839591 - 05/20/13 12:07 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: docspud]
Dogfish Offline
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Do you vote?
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#839594 - 05/20/13 12:18 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Dogfish]
docspud Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 11/01/06
Posts: 1563
Loc: Silverdale Wa
Yes.....I even watch/listen/read what I can through organizations I am part of(WSC,long live the kings,RMEF, ect) but seldom do I hear much about this. Not large amount of the time seems to be spent on this when elections come around. Any other groups taking a larger role in fighting for us as sportsmen I might not have heard of. I just see this continuing to get worse in the future and causing less and less people to use the resource. (not that less people would hurt my draw chances grin)


Edited by docspud (05/20/13 12:24 PM)
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#839656 - 05/20/13 06:46 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: docspud]
Krijack Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 06/03/06
Posts: 1533
Loc: Tacoma
I don't feel that old but in the 20 years I have been hunting it has gone from
1. No requirement to choose a specific weapon - you could hunt archery, modern or muzzle loader seasons with a standard tag.
2. east or west side for elk, mostly any bull.
3. Most units any elk for archery / Any deer.
4. Longer seasons and archery was open during the elk rutting period.
5. Any buck for muleys and a season that went longer.

and more animals everywhere I went.

Now they are slowly opening it back up, but allowing only one or two tags for what we used to have over the counter. I have freinds that waited 10 years to hunt a unit they used to hunt as kids. they took two weeks off and never even saw a cow. some units that were open for any bull are now looking like a one in a lifetime draw. It is pretty sad that you pay the same in applications fees and wait 10 years for a tag that you could get as a non-resident over the counter in many of our nearby states.


Edited by Krijack (05/20/13 06:51 PM)

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#840062 - 05/22/13 06:46 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: ]
snit Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 1844
Loc: Wenatchee, WA
Originally Posted By: 2MANY

Don't forget they made hunter orange mandatory also.





Still pisses me off.........
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#840266 - 05/23/13 07:43 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: snit]
Achewter Offline


Registered: 02/02/04
Posts: 2276
Loc: N of Seattle
Drake, Ali and myself 2 adults and one kid. just hunting lic, tags and draw apps $550 another $365 if Drake and I pay for any weapon deer and a couple hundred more for the fishing lics.
Probably 3 or 4 trips to E Wa for deer, elk and god forbid we get drawn for any special hunts.
I'm doing a SD pheasant trip and was planning on an Idaho hunt with the kids too. Ouch maybe not.
multi trips to Neah, 2 or 3 tuna runs, Week at B10 and GH. Might have an open weekend or 2 in June, early Nov and mid Dec. Thank god I didn't book AK this year.
Looks like I will stay single again this year.
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#840356 - 05/24/13 12:16 AM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: ]
Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
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Loc: McCleary, WA
Over $600 for me and the boys for all licenses, tags, and special permit draws. I feel your pain Art.
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#840548 - 05/25/13 03:17 AM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Dogfish]
Achewter Offline


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Posts: 2276
Loc: N of Seattle
Andy if the kids draw any of the fancy tags you can take em and i'll do all the cookin this time
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#840644 - 05/25/13 08:31 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Achewter]
Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
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Loc: McCleary, WA
Deal.
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#842761 - 06/08/13 11:45 AM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Dogfish]
Elkman Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 01/19/00
Posts: 250
Loc: Anchorage, AK U.S.A
I am getting a little anxious for drawing results!!! Need to plan the rest of my vacation.
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#842763 - 06/08/13 12:16 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Elkman]
Driftfishnw Offline
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Registered: 02/10/09
Posts: 2026
I feel ya, elkman.... Wish they would just post the draw results, so I can see that i didn't draw, and i can go back to planning our general hunt plans.

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#842765 - 06/08/13 01:57 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Driftfishnw]
Elkman Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 01/19/00
Posts: 250
Loc: Anchorage, AK U.S.A
Yeah. Planning a week long early season Muzzy deer hunt but I cannot finalize until I know about moose/elk tags.

Like that commercial .... open open open... draw already!!
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#842774 - 06/08/13 03:29 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Elkman]
Dogfish Offline
Poodle Smolt

Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10979
Loc: McCleary, WA
Me too.
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#843537 - 06/12/13 10:16 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: ]
Katmai Guy Offline
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Registered: 09/28/06
Posts: 249
Loc: Covington, WA
PUSH THE BUTTON!!! Draw already!!! HURRY UP!!!
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#843547 - 06/12/13 11:32 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Katmai Guy]
stlhdr1 Offline
BUCK NASTY!!

Registered: 01/26/00
Posts: 6424
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Anyone know when they plan to draw??

Keith
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#844249 - 06/17/13 09:54 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: ]
Katmai Guy Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 09/28/06
Posts: 249
Loc: Covington, WA
Check the results page, "points used" are being shown now. Draw emminent.
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#844268 - 06/17/13 11:51 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Katmai Guy]
Dogfish Offline
Poodle Smolt

Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10979
Loc: McCleary, WA
Not showing any points for my sheep. Fawkers. I hope that they are just testing it for glitches like that so folks with lots of points don't get aced out of the draws.
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#844270 - 06/17/13 11:55 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Dogfish]
Katmai Guy Offline
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Registered: 09/28/06
Posts: 249
Loc: Covington, WA
My sheep points aren't showing either, just hoping they didn't get to that catagory today.
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#844319 - 06/18/13 01:54 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: ]
Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10979
Loc: McCleary, WA
My mountain goat and moose points are different at 13 and 9. 0 for sheep. All should be 13. Hmmmmm.
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#844323 - 06/18/13 02:16 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Dogfish]
wsu Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 06/23/04
Posts: 422
My moose and elk points disappeared. Clearly we did not all hit the lotto, so something else must be up.

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#844343 - 06/18/13 04:11 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: ]
Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
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Loc: McCleary, WA
Probably just testing the system so the draw is fair. (Hope)
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#844353 - 06/18/13 05:28 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Dogfish]
STRIKE ZONE Offline
GOOD LUCK

Registered: 08/09/00
Posts: 12107
Loc: Hobart,Wa U.S.A
They are stealing points from all you and giving them to there familys and neighbors first.Just sayin.....................The waiting game is getting old.Good luck,

SZ

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#844410 - 06/19/13 12:26 AM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: ]
Achewter Offline


Registered: 02/02/04
Posts: 2276
Loc: N of Seattle
looks like they ran antlerless elk 0fer3
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#844432 - 06/19/13 11:09 AM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: ]
snit Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 1844
Loc: Wenatchee, WA
Still showing "drawing not run yet".....this is getting old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#844444 - 06/19/13 01:36 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: ]
Achewter Offline


Registered: 02/02/04
Posts: 2276
Loc: N of Seattle
I'm getting Drawing not run on everything but antlerless elk. That shows as not selected. Anyone else?
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#844462 - 06/19/13 03:24 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Achewter]
Driftfishnw Offline
Steelhead Hitman

Registered: 02/10/09
Posts: 2026
i just called them, and got my results... NOTHIN'

they said there's a problem with the website.

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#844469 - 06/19/13 04:18 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: ]
Driftfishnw Offline
Steelhead Hitman

Registered: 02/10/09
Posts: 2026
360-902-2434

Give 'em a ring!

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#844474 - 06/19/13 04:39 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Driftfishnw]
wsu Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 06/23/04
Posts: 422
I drew a skok archery bull tag. Should be fun. I've never hunted elk up there. Anyone have any tips?

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#844475 - 06/19/13 04:40 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: ]
wsu Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 06/23/04
Posts: 422
Nice on the Wenaha tag! Better get your work routine stepped up!

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#844476 - 06/19/13 04:47 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: ]
Driftfishnw Offline
Steelhead Hitman

Registered: 02/10/09
Posts: 2026
Originally Posted By: 2MANY

1 of 5 tags for.............
Wenaha East
Any Bull
Archery
September 1-19th


Hhhhhmmmm.


Congrats on that tag!!

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#844482 - 06/19/13 05:54 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: wsu]
Dogfish Offline
Poodle Smolt

Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10979
Loc: McCleary, WA
Wdfw says that they can no longer check on results over the phone due to call volume, but they did say the vendor has fixed the issue and results should be posted after 5pm today. Just got off the phone with them a minute ago.


Edited by Dogfish (06/19/13 05:57 PM)
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#844485 - 06/19/13 06:24 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Dogfish]
larryb Offline
The Rainman

Registered: 03/05/01
Posts: 2347
Loc: elma washington
didn't get over 65 cow elk. others not drawn yet
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#844494 - 06/19/13 07:46 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: larryb]
Elkman Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 01/19/00
Posts: 250
Loc: Anchorage, AK U.S.A
Our whole group got zilch!!
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#844504 - 06/19/13 08:26 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Dogfish]
Dogfish Offline
Poodle Smolt

Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10979
Loc: McCleary, WA
Hunter and I got blanked. Ryan drew a Skookumchuck doe tag!
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#844506 - 06/19/13 08:32 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Dogfish]
larryb Offline
The Rainman

Registered: 03/05/01
Posts: 2347
Loc: elma washington
nothing here
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#844533 - 06/19/13 11:50 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: larryb]
Achewter Offline


Registered: 02/02/04
Posts: 2276
Loc: N of Seattle
over 30 apps for the 3 of us and the only ones we drew were for 3 extra does and $$$ for the state.
Good news for my brother's garden I guess.
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#844537 - 06/20/13 01:05 AM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Achewter]
Fish-Culture Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 11/05/07
Posts: 250
Umtanum muzzy cow for me and Mashel youth doe rifle for the boy, hes stoked to have the "insurance policy".

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#844539 - 06/20/13 01:17 AM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Fish-Culture]
Dogfish Offline
Poodle Smolt

Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10979
Loc: McCleary, WA
Originally Posted By: Fish-Culture
Umtanum muzzy cow for me and Mashel youth doe rifle for the boy, hes stoked to have the "insurance policy".

Cool! Meat tags are awesome!
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#844567 - 06/20/13 12:35 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Dogfish]
seastrike Offline
Hey Man....It's cool...

Registered: 08/18/02
Posts: 4323
Loc: seattle
I got blanked but the boy got a doe tag for Okonagon East. I put him in for that one because I haven't hunted that unit.

With Brent playing football it will make for a short weekend(s) but I'm excited.

Last year he got his first deer. This year hopefully it will be the first deer with the rifle I got him last Christmas :-)

Two more tries at youth moose.

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#844575 - 06/20/13 01:17 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: seastrike]
Driftfishnw Offline
Steelhead Hitman

Registered: 02/10/09
Posts: 2026
Dave, if you need any info on that unit, let me know.

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#844578 - 06/20/13 01:22 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Driftfishnw]
huntncoug Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 05/22/07
Posts: 1632
Loc: Echo Lake
Palouse tag for me, the wife got nothing.
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#844591 - 06/20/13 03:41 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Driftfishnw]
seastrike Offline
Hey Man....It's cool...

Registered: 08/18/02
Posts: 4323
Loc: seattle
Will do Tony, thanks.
I'll hit the maps/earth etc then give you a call. We'll get up there a couple of times to camp/scout this summer.

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#844593 - 06/20/13 03:50 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: seastrike]
Driftfishnw Offline
Steelhead Hitman

Registered: 02/10/09
Posts: 2026
Cool! I have family that lives there in town, and been looking for a reason to head up this summer.


Edited by Driftfishnw (06/20/13 03:53 PM)

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#844604 - 06/20/13 04:39 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Driftfishnw]
deerlick Offline
Spawner

Registered: 12/30/08
Posts: 585
Loc: around
little naches cow tag for me and two others in our camp, lots o meat

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#844626 - 06/20/13 06:17 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Fish-Culture]
STRIKE ZONE Offline
GOOD LUCK

Registered: 08/09/00
Posts: 12107
Loc: Hobart,Wa U.S.A
I got blanked for the 5th year in a row.....................However I did get in on a group bull tag with my uncle's & cousins down in Orgygon.That should be a fun time with family..................yes they do it every year so I will be the green horn of the group.I got drawn for this the first time trying.Good luck,
SZ

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#844720 - 06/21/13 11:30 AM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: STRIKE ZONE]
deerlick Offline
Spawner

Registered: 12/30/08
Posts: 585
Loc: around
took me 13 points to draw a damn cow tag, wonder how many before i draw a bull tag 13 and counting, same for quality deer for me, im just not lucky.

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#844734 - 06/21/13 12:39 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: ]
Dogfish Offline
Poodle Smolt

Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10979
Loc: McCleary, WA
ML hunt for my quality deer, Modern rifle for my quality elk. I drew a Quinault bull tag in 2009, so my elk points are minimal.
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#844761 - 06/21/13 03:37 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Dogfish]
snit Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 1844
Loc: Wenatchee, WA
Drawn for 2nd deer tag for Omak. I've never applied for a doe tag before, but thought what the heck. Max points for deer/sheep/goat...NADA again. Just booked a room for Idaho whitetail tag for T-day.
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#844763 - 06/21/13 04:02 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: ]
deerlick Offline
Spawner

Registered: 12/30/08
Posts: 585
Loc: around
Originally Posted By: 2MANY

Are you sticking with gun hunts for your quality tag?

For the one i want, yes. been waiting this long why quit now, lol.

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#844847 - 06/22/13 01:16 AM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: ]
Happy Birthday landcruiserwilly Offline
Spawner

Registered: 10/20/04
Posts: 934
Loc: Bothell
Nothing for me.



Willy
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#845117 - 06/24/13 03:56 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: landcruiserwilly]
FishRanger Offline
Carcass

Registered: 09/26/06
Posts: 2312
Loc: Where ever Dogfish tells me to...
Colockum cow tag for MF. . . . . .good eats !!
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#845187 - 06/24/13 11:33 PM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: FishRanger]
j 7 Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 02/09/07
Posts: 1422
Loc: Your monitor
Got a second deer and a buck tag. Got hosed on e1k and m00$e.
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#850552 - 08/02/13 12:56 AM Re: Special draws and a quick bitching- [Re: Katmai Guy]
GEAR MONGER 2 Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 12/26/11
Posts: 160
Loc: Snohomish Co, Wa
Yah it sucks. Oregon makes ya buy a lic. 141.00 to apply for elk. Drew this year finally. Took 5 years. As for wash. I didn't feel the pain this year. All the years I bought my sons stuff is paying off. While was in Ak my son bought all my stuff. Put me in the drawings, and put some kind of spell on it. I drew a cow tag, and a extra deer tag, and the bull tag in Oregon. Lucky year for me.

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