B-Run- Thought I'd get back to you about some issues, that weren't bear related, with a new post.-- Yes, it is very sad to think about the once great runs of strong salmon that made it almost 1000 miles back to beautiful Stanley Basin near the headwaters of the awesome Salmon River. Before the dams it was full of all species of salmon and steelhead too. Now the return of native sockeye salmon to Redfish Lake, at the base of the Sawtooth Mountains, is down to around 4 per year! I flyfished for trout up there in the late 80's. We saw the sore nosed Springers in the hatchery ponds nearby. Even seeing hats up there was inspiring. But what now? After we have killed off the nates and the hats are hurtin'? Do you think the dams will actually ever be removed? In time? Too bad we didn't have the foresight about the fish and river destructiveness of the dams before they were built. Or did they?? When money is to be had we are not informed of many things- EVEN things very bad to everyone's health in our society. [Bleeeeep!]!- I saw a TV news piece a couple years ago showing movie actress Jamie Lee Curtis standing over 2 red colored sockeye nates penned up in the shallows of Redfish L. near a creek mouth. The Idaho F&W Dept. is trying to mate the last of these fish for broodstock genetics in an attempt to restore that run. I loved the symbolic publicity gesture. I hope miracles do happen! But talk about too little WAY too late!- About the Snake R. dam removal issue: Sportsmen from NW Oregon & SW Wash. recently towed over 100 fishing boats to a Portland conference on this issue. So we have let the powers to be know that we will at least be heard. However, remember the money. I sat thru much of this conference and listened to mostly special interest groups (such as the power industry, barging industry, agricultural industry, etc.) argue only of their money interests; and influence. Ugly, but some of their points about dam removal do have some merit. It would be immensely complicated and fraught with uncertainties. Also enormously expensive for everyone in the NW. The NMFS or the Army Corp of Engineers didn't seem real impressed with what pro-dam removal speakers had to say. I personally would love to see it happen, with as minimal negative impact as possible, to restore some of the lost natural habitat and of course to help salmon restoration. But I'm not going to hold my breath in anticipation. We'll see. I hope in time to save some native runs.-- Hey B-Run, you forgot to tell me what you know about any salmon or steelhead nates that may still make it up thru the Clearwater River into the Locksa and Selway trib.s to spawn. Or are there only the big B-run Dworshak hats that go up the N.Fork? Let me know what you can find out about it. It would be more than good to hear that some are still there. Magical in a sense. Take care, Steve Hanson