#908504 - 10/06/14 10:28 AM
Flossing: It's the California way
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Returning Adult
Registered: 08/07/09
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Not only do they floss but they brag about it and the moderators ban anyone who speaking out against it. Pretty shameless.
[url=http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/salmon-steelhead-board/118354-ar.html][/url]
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#908513 - 10/06/14 11:23 AM
Re: Flossing: It's the California way
[Re: Blktailhunter]
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Spawner
Registered: 01/28/05
Posts: 781
Loc: Sacramento, CA
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You'd better ban anyone on here that's ever fished (i.e . Flossed) Sockeye in AK while your at it.
Edited by Nor Cal Drifter (10/06/14 11:29 AM)
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#908537 - 10/06/14 01:12 PM
Re: Flossing: It's the California way
[Re: Nor Cal Drifter]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 01/19/05
Posts: 138
Loc: Kenmore
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I fish with my hooks clipped so that I still get a hit and know I could have caught the fish but I am still superior to anyone that uses hooks!
I am also a vegan who doesn't eat anything that created a shadow.
I also don't support the use of any fossil fuels so if you have a boat with a motor I am better than you. If you can't walk to your fishing hole I think you should be perma banned.
All joking aside if you hate flossing, dont floss. There are a bunch of fly fishermen that think using gear/bait is horrible and should be banned. Where does it end?
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#908579 - 10/06/14 05:19 PM
Re: Flossing: It's the California way
[Re: flylikeIdo]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 08/07/09
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I fish with my hooks clipped so that I still get a hit and know I could have caught the fish but I am still superior to anyone that uses hooks!
I am also a vegan who doesn't eat anything that created a shadow.
I also don't support the use of any fossil fuels so if you have a boat with a motor I am better than you. If you can't walk to your fishing hole I think you should be perma banned.
All joking aside if you hate flossing, dont floss. There are a bunch of fly fishermen that think using gear/bait is horrible and should be banned. Where does it end?
You are missing the point. In California it is illegal and the site is promoting illegal fishing. From their fishing regulations: 1.05. ANGLING. To take fish by hook and line with the line held in the hand, or with the line attached to a pole or rod held in the hand or closely attended in such manner that the fish voluntarily takes the bait or lure in its mouth
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#908591 - 10/06/14 06:37 PM
Re: Flossing: It's the California way
[Re: Blktailhunter]
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Spawner
Registered: 01/28/05
Posts: 781
Loc: Sacramento, CA
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Don't want to start an argument because this has been beaten to death elsewhere, but until you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the fish did not voluntarily take the offering (i.e. bead, corkie, etc.) then the method remains legal. Most are likely flossed as you assert, but there is a small percentage that hit the offering willingly. That being the case, you can't call it illegal. Not arguing one side or the other - just pointing out why the method remains legal in CA along with OR and WA.
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#908596 - 10/06/14 07:12 PM
Re: Flossing: It's the California way
[Re: MPM]
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Spawner
Registered: 01/28/05
Posts: 781
Loc: Sacramento, CA
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Will there be proof problems if WDFW tries to prosecute? Almost certainly. But that doesn't make trying to floss fish legal.
Actually...it kinda does. If I am attempting to entice the fish to hit my offering willingly, and I unintentionally floss one, I'm legal all day long.
Edited by Nor Cal Drifter (10/06/14 07:14 PM)
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#908601 - 10/06/14 07:23 PM
Re: Flossing: It's the California way
[Re: Nor Cal Drifter]
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ExtenZe Field Tester
Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 8060
Loc: Vancouver, WA
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If I am attempting to entice the fish to hit my offering willingly, and I unintentionally floss one, I'm legal all day long.
Yer delusional.....still. And apparently you fit right in with the broken fisheries in the over-populated areas. It's true, ignorance is bliss. I'm lucky in that I fish in a roadless area where it's one man to a run and the fish attack my offerings.
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#908607 - 10/06/14 08:02 PM
Re: Flossing: It's the California way
[Re: Direct-Drive]
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Spawner
Registered: 01/28/05
Posts: 781
Loc: Sacramento, CA
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If I am attempting to entice the fish to hit my offering willingly, and I unintentionally floss one, I'm legal all day long.
Yer delusional.....still. And apparently you fit right in with the broken fisheries in the over-populated areas. It's true, ignorance is bliss. I'm lucky in that I fish in a roadless area where it's one man to a run and the fish attack my offerings. Never said I flossed DD. I'm not making this personal. You outta do the same.
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#908611 - 10/06/14 08:08 PM
Re: Flossing: It's the California way
[Re: MPM]
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ReefSkunk
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Nor Cal Flosser is a flosser. Conversation is moot.
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#908618 - 10/06/14 09:20 PM
Re: Flossing: It's the California way
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Ornamental Rice Bowl
Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12767
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Healing begins with accountability.
My name is eyeFISH, and I AM a flosser.
Dammmmm... I feel better already.
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#908626 - 10/06/14 10:08 PM
Re: Flossing: It's the California way
[Re: Nor Cal Drifter]
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ExtenZe Field Tester
Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 8060
Loc: Vancouver, WA
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If I am attempting to entice the fish to hit my offering willingly, and I unintentionally floss one, I'm legal all day long.
Yer delusional.....still. And apparently you fit right in with the broken fisheries in the over-populated areas. It's true, ignorance is bliss. I'm lucky in that I fish in a roadless area where it's one man to a run and the fish attack my offerings. Never said I flossed DD. I'm not making this personal. You outta do the same. Oh, I thought you said that you were a flosser of the unintentional variety and legal all day long. One of the steps in the 12 step Flossers Anonymous program ? The attack...the pickup....that is the thrill. That magic millisecond....... There is no substitute.
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#908637 - 10/06/14 11:02 PM
Re: Flossing: It's the California way
[Re: Direct-Drive]
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Spawner
Registered: 01/28/05
Posts: 781
Loc: Sacramento, CA
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The conversation is about whether or not flossing is legal. You seem to want to make it about me. I'm not interested. Feel free to continue this conversation with the WDFW - so far flossing still exists all along the west coast so somehow it must still be legal.
Edited by Nor Cal Drifter (10/06/14 11:04 PM)
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#908641 - 10/06/14 11:09 PM
Re: Flossing: It's the California way
[Re: Nor Cal Drifter]
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Ornamental Rice Bowl
Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12767
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Flossing is 100% illegal in WA.
What part of voluntarily taking the offering is so hard to get.
It's all about the angler's intent... Is he fishing in a way intended to allow the fish to chase the gear or is the gear chasing the fish.
END OF STORY!
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#908642 - 10/06/14 11:12 PM
Re: Flossing: It's the California way
[Re: eyeFISH]
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Ornamental Rice Bowl
Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12767
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Flossing is the equivalent of fishing with a single strand gillnet.
J F C... defending flossing as if the fish are "chasing" that 8 ft leader is like saying Humptulips kings and coho are "biting" the gillnets (currently deployed in tidewater as I type this reply).
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#908645 - 10/06/14 11:22 PM
Re: Flossing: It's the California way
[Re: eyeFISH]
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RobertF
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The Fish Sniffer board has always been and always will be a joke. Nothing to see here,move along folks.
BTW flossing,whether it is legal or not,ain't fishin. Just sayin.
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