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#909861 - 10/16/14 07:52 PM Re: Compelling, disgusting NY Times story on Iraq chem [Re: Todd]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27840
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
I went on a little Google search to find that, I'm sure, "outstanding" news source that told you that Bushcorp never said they were going after Iraq's WMDs that were an "imminent threat" to us...couldn't find it.

I could find, however, dozens of right wing dumbasses saying...get this...that the destroyed and buried chemical shells that the NYT article was talking were indeed the WMDs that Bushcorp meant when we went there get WMDs.

Nevermind that there was no WMD program running, that there were no WMDs that were operational in Iraq...hell, never even mind the fact that Iraq told and showed over and over that they had destroyed and contained all their chemical weapons...nevermind the fact that we are the ones who fuckin gave them those chemical weapons to use against Iran during the Iran/Iraq war...

No, the ones we gave them, that they destroyed, and told and showed us they destroyed...we went and dug them up and THOSE are the WMDs that Bushcorp was talking about all along.

The amount of mental gymnastics required to be that fuckin stupid would win gold medals at the Stupid Olympics...team, individual, and all around.

Will right wing douchebags yell out "stop lying to us!"?

No, of course not...they'll do what they do here on PP, behind their leader Hank...shove their heads ten feet up their asses and actually go along with that story, vote for liars who perpetuate that story, and eventually, blame that lie on Obama or some other muslim Nigerian Kenyan Socialiast Marxist Fascist.

Fish on...

Todd
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#909868 - 10/16/14 08:20 PM Re: Compelling, disgusting NY Times story on Iraq chem [Re: ]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27840
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
So...just going to avoid the questions regarding your gullibility and denial of reality?

It's ok...it's more of a demonstration that everyone...but you apparently...can see it very clearly.

Have fun voting on that "war record" and "the economy" next month...start doing the "deny reality mantra" twice a day and by voting day you'll actually be convince once again of several myths.

Is it some sort of anti-buyer's remorse? You've hitched your wagon to the most stupid and backwards of parties and platforms, and when they are repeatedly shown to be both stupid and backwards you would rather stick with the home team and be in denial rather than accept reality?

Go read some of the Coogfan posts on the college footbal thread...you sound exactly like them, only dumber, and about things that are a lot more important.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. Apparently remembering the lies that sent thousands of Americans to their deaths, and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, too, for that matter, is too far back in history for you to remember clearly...has the last day already been too long for you to remember that "news source"?

Or did you just flat out make it up yourself?
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#909875 - 10/16/14 09:41 PM Re: Compelling, disgusting NY Times story on Iraq chem [Re: Todd]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Originally Posted By: apkd
RedHank


rofl rofl

Pure gold.

Hank, if you shut your fuckin' hole, bullsh!t won't spew out of it all the time.
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#909879 - 10/16/14 11:24 PM Re: Compelling, disgusting NY Times story on Iraq chem [Re: Dan S.]
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Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4167
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
Starting in 2004, some members of the George W. Bush administration and Republican lawmakers began to find evidence of discarded chemical weapons in Iraq. But when the information was brought up with the White House, senior adviser Karl Rove told them to “let these sleeping dogs lie.”

Rove - Let those sleeing dogs lay
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#909896 - 10/17/14 10:50 AM Re: Compelling, disgusting NY Times story on Iraq chem [Re: Todd]
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Registered: 05/27/00
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Loc: Stumpy Acres
Originally Posted By: Todd
Obama cut and run from Iraq


Yup 4 years after he took office.....
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#909930 - 10/17/14 03:15 PM Re: Compelling, disgusting NY Times story on Iraq chem [Re: ]
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Registered: 03/29/14
Posts: 6779
"I love it when I hear, 'Oh there weren't any chemical weapons in Iraq,'" former Army Sgt. Jarrod L. Taylor told Chivers. "There were plenty."

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-chemical-weapons-iraq-2014-10
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#910000 - 10/17/14 08:49 PM Re: Compelling, disgusting NY Times story on Iraq chem [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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Registered: 01/13/03
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Loc: Edmonds
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Economy? Who cares about facts. The GOP is better, Sean Hannity said so. Nevermind that every single study and statistic on the issue shows exactly the opposite.


Forbes:

But President Obama is not on the path to that restoration. The latest report on real GDP growth estimates this year’s first quarter at a pitiful 0.1%. That is in the 6th year of Obama’s Presidency.

Don’t tell me the economy was in a recession when he came into office. That recession ended five years ago! Recoveries always involve above average growth, well over the 3.3% long term trendline, as the economy catches up to that world leading American growth pace. That is why the American historical record is the deeper the recession, the stronger the recovery, as the economy grows faster in the recovery to make up the lost ground from the long term trendline.

Obama’s supposed economic recovery during the last five years has never even gotten back to the 3.3% long term trendline. The high points were 2.5% in 2010 and 2.8% in 2012. The high point for Reagan’s recovery was nearly 7%, in 1984, the highest in 50 years.


As the Wall Street Journal reported this week, “average growth over the 19 quarters for this [Obama] recovery has been 2.2%, with total economic growth [over the 5 years of the recovery] of 11.1%. The average for all post-1960 recoveries is 4.1% with total growth of 21.1%. The average for the Reagan expansion was 4.9% and total growth of 25.6%.”

Indeed, during the 7 years of the Reagan recovery, from 1982 to 1989, the economy grew by almost one-third, the equivalent of adding the entire economy of West Germany, the third largest in the world at the time, to the U.S. economy. Reagan accomplished that while slaying the historic double digit inflation of the 1970s at the same time, which the Washington establishment had sneered was impossible.

In other words, Obama is busy restoring the deeply misguided intellectual leadership of the 1970s, which cut America’s economic growth rate in half. Larry Kudlow noted in his column this week that the subpar Obama “recovery” has cost the American economy so far $1.5 trillion, below where it would be with just an average recovery. That is a loss of nearly $13,000 per household.

With a recovery matching Reagan’s growth rates, U.S. GDP would be $2 trillion bigger today, Kudlow adds. That would be $17,000 more per U.S. household. At the growth rates of Kennedy’s recovery in the 1960s, resulting from economic policies similar to Reagan’s, U.S. GDP would be $3 trillion higher. That would be $25,600 more per household.




This is the fundamental transformation of America that Obama promised us, from the greatest, world leading, economic superpower in human history, to stagnating also ran. The above is what this transformation is costing every American family. In return for giving up economic growth, the American people are getting less, not more, economic equality under Obama and his Democrats.

This morning, Obama finally got a monthly jobs report worthy of a recovery, with the creation of 288,000 jobs last month. But in a recovery from a recession, the economy should be producing at least that many jobs, every month. In one month during Reagan’s recovery, September, 1983, the economy created over 1 million jobs. Remember, the last recession ended five years ago, and America should have enjoyed a recovery producing jobs like in this morning’s report every month since then, based on the historical economic record. Instead, Obama’s recovery is still the worst economic recovery from a recession since the Great Depression, as I have discussed in detail in prior columns.

Kudlow divides recent American history on a bipartisan basis, noting that President Clinton, with his Republican Congress, mostly maintained Reagan’s economic policies. Kudlow recounts, “From 1982 to 2000, real annual GDP growth averaged 3.8 percent, 44 million new jobs were created, and the stock market increased 900 percent.”

Contrast that with the George W. Bush/Barack Obama failure. Kudlow reports, “From 2000 to 2013, real annual GDP growth was 1.8 percent, 5.5 million new jobs were created, and stocks went up only 44 percent.”

Kudlow explains, “In the Reagan-Clinton prosperity cycle, the size and scope of government was substantially reduced. A pro-growth measure. There was major tax reform and reduction, free trade expansion, deregulation, large-scale federal-spending restraint, welfare reform, Social Security reform and monetary rules that vanquished inflation and delivered a strong King Dollar and a collapsing gold price. All pro-growth.

Reagan and Kennedy both cut income tax rates across the board for everyone, together reducing the top rate from 91% when Kennedy entered office, to 28% when Reagan left office, with bipartisan support for the economic programs of both Presidents. Obama, by sharp contrast, has raised the tax rates of virtually every major federal tax, while maintaining the highest marginal corporate income tax rates in the world, on a bitterly partisan basis




Reagan’s first major act in 1981 was to lead a cut in federal spending of nearly 5%, with a tight clamp on domestic discretionary spending for the rest of his 8 years in office, ultimately reducing federal spending as a percent of GDP by 10% from its peak. Obama’s first major act was to lead an increase of almost $1 trillion in spending in the so-called “stimulus” bill, followed by the 2010 adoption of a new mega entitlement in Obamacare that will add trillions to future federal spending.

Reagan continued the deregulation begun under President Carter, saving consumers hundreds of billions. Obama has been the most pro-government regulation President in history, with Obamacare control over health care, the Dodd-Frank regulatory tsunami over American finance (which has only just begun), and EPA running roughshod over the private economy, especially energy producers.

Reagan backed and provided political cover for the Volcker-Greenspan Fed, which followed monetary policy restraint that squelched the double digit inflation of the 1970s, and produced a rising, strong dollar. Obama cheerled the easy money, zero interest rate, Fed monetary policies that began under President Bush, which depreciated the currency, recreated rising gold prices, and established the foundation for the return of inflation.

Bottom line: Kennedy and Reagan adopted pro-growth economic policies across the board (mostly maintained under Clinton). Bush and Obama abandoned, and then ultimately reversed those bipartisan, pro-growth policies.
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