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#911461 - 10/29/14 12:12 AM Re: Decker cr. closed [Re: Makai]
On The Swing Offline
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Registered: 02/06/03
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Originally Posted By: Makai

In the long run, it will be better all the way around to have the park available.


Tell that to the bankies trying to fish the upper holes anywhere above the s curves as they wait for the flotilla of 10 to 30 boats go by...these 4 holes are nice to have for the bankie crowd and it's such small water it's easy for boats to spook the holes for quite some time.
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#911464 - 10/29/14 12:54 AM Re: Decker cr. closed [Re: bankbum]
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Registered: 10/28/09
Posts: 3314
Originally Posted By: bankbum
Lots of rumors being spread about what Arnold (park ranger) has been saying about the log jam and the park potentially opening back up for launching....nothing mentioned by any member here goes along with the conversations I had with Arnold........


I should clarify that Arnold did not say any decision was forthcoming, or even that discussions had occurred. His words to me were that HE was going to try to get WDFW to clear the log jams so the park could be used as a launch site again. He said a lot of other things, too, as he usually does. Nice guy, but DON'T forget to hang your Discover Pass in the window....

Personally, I agree with OnTheSwing's position. It has been nice having at least a couple holes boats can't access in that area. Could do with 20 or so fewer snaggers, but hey....

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#911540 - 10/29/14 07:40 PM Re: Decker cr. closed [Re: FleaFlickr02]
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Registered: 03/21/06
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I do not agree with allowing it only for bank anglers, i have been drifting down for 30 years, but i dont start fishing till right below s-curves.

Can you still drag your boat around the jam to the right.

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#911544 - 10/29/14 07:50 PM Re: Decker cr. closed [Re: Met'lheadMatt]
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No you cannot drag anywhere in that spot..it's a cluster and setup to catch a lot more wood this year, maybe causing it to finally blow out, but I doubt it.

And the prob wasn't because boats fished the water, most were nice enough to realize why not to but still, having a dozen or more boats get rowed or even walked thru the house hole and the like puts the fish off there for quote some time..or at least they can.
Just because of the size of stream, average streamflow and etc I think k. Holt and some of those guys..heck even the park should try to get with this landowner for more of an easement, maybe improve the launch...OR just punch a new slide launch In on the main river just below decker where the new clear cut is..
Just sayin cause it seems that upper 1/2 mile can catch so much woody debris and crap that it might require a lot of in-water maintenance ( gotta get hpa's for work) ...maybe a better launch site is the real answer...ND not somethin like the west fork, small slide launch like what USED to be at decker till it got way outta hand and turned into what we see now
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#911586 - 10/30/14 10:00 AM Re: Decker cr. closed [Re: fish4brains]
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Registered: 04/25/00
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This new round of rain could add to the problem.......more rain leads to more "stuff" coming down the river, and stacking in to the log jam.

I have not seen this log jam, understand its below the park but must be above Decker Ck.

If it would ever "just break loose".....and say move down toward the "S corners", could it cause ever more of a problem??????

Anyone have any pictures??????

Have a good day.......I'll be trying to fish.......in lower river....
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#911587 - 10/30/14 10:06 AM Re: Decker cr. closed [Re: DrifterWA]
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Registered: 11/07/99
Posts: 2691
Loc: Yelmish
sure would be nice if the state had followed through on the proposal to open the river above the park for winter steelhead a few years back. that would give the bankies a bit more room. never understood why it's closed up there.

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#911592 - 10/30/14 11:30 AM Re: Decker cr. closed [Re: Chum Man]
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Registered: 10/28/09
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Drifter: The log jam is located about 1/4 mile below the Schafer Park bridge, and probably about 1/8 mile upstream of Decker Creek. It's not a huge jam by most standards, but it contains some big wood that stretches across the whole river and is pushed up against the high bank side. The low side is easy to walk around, but it would be virtually impossible to drag a boat around it (too much brush). Even walking a pontoon boat around it would be a big ordeal. The way the wood is situated, you can tell it was the result of an especially high water event (the kind that turns the campground into a big side channel). Such events don't occur every year, so it could be a while before it blows out on its own. This year is shaping up to be a wet one, so it could happen soon. Either that, or it will just collect more wood....

Either way, I don't think it's enough wood to cause any serious new problems downstream, especially considering how much water would be coming down in an event sufficient to break it up. The river's significantly smaller upstream of Decker, so it is likely more prone to wood getting stuck in corners.

I like OTS's thought about putting in a lauch below the S curves. That area seems less likely to need maintenance to keep the launch open, and it leaves the S curves up for the bankies. Alternatively, perhaps they could put a launch in on the Middle Fork, at the bridge on the Brady-Matlock Rd. That would mean no more boats in the East Fork, but there's really not much water between the S Curves and the confluence with the Middle Fork, so what would be the real difference? Plus, that way, they could just implement a no boats rule in the E. Fork, which would prevent sleds from running up to the S curves (an idea I like).

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#911608 - 10/30/14 02:38 PM Re: Decker cr. closed [Re: FleaFlickr02]
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#911614 - 10/30/14 03:32 PM Re: Decker cr. closed [Re: DrifterWA]
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Originally Posted By: DrifterWA

Anyone have any pictures??????


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#911847 - 11/01/14 09:14 PM Re: Decker cr. closed [Re: stonefish]
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Registered: 04/21/03
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Loc: Oahu, HI /Olympia, WA
Decker launch is not closed.....im sure I shouldn't be saying this because more people will use it but I feel like I would want to know. Friend made the effort to track down the landowner who lives in new Hampshire and Contracts a company to take care of it and talked to the guy next to him. Neither had a clue as to why the stump was there and said they didn't do it nor would they close it. There you go


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#911900 - 11/02/14 08:50 AM Re: Decker cr. closed [Re: Mergantroider]
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Registered: 03/07/99
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Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Someone in Satko Glen must have had an extra stump laying around...............
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#911976 - 11/02/14 08:40 PM Re: Decker cr. closed [Re: Dan S.]
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So close.......

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#912024 - 11/03/14 09:03 AM Re: Decker cr. closed [Re: Castingpearls]
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