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#913820 - 11/22/14 03:05 AM Fighting BIG fish....
Canyon Man Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Bothell, WA U.S.A.
Take yer best shot. This oughta be fun....

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#913822 - 11/22/14 03:21 AM Re: Fighting BIG fish.... [Re: Canyon Man]
Sky-Guy Offline
The Tide changed

Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7232
Loc: Everett
Nicely played, until it got in the boat. I counted the fish out of the water the entire length of video from 10:18 to 11:53, including two edits of unknown length. Try holding your breath that long.

Very poor handling of such a magnificent fish.

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#913834 - 11/22/14 01:04 PM Re: Fighting BIG fish.... [Re: Sky-Guy]
ColeyG Offline
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Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 3098
Loc: AK
Great example of how not to do it. That fish should have been landed in the first minute of the video. CNR mortality in action.
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#913847 - 11/22/14 04:23 PM Re: Fighting BIG fish.... [Re: ColeyG]
eyeFISH Offline
Ornamental Rice Bowl

Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12767
Originally Posted By: ColeyG
Great example of how not to do it. That fish should have been landed in the first minute of the video. CNR mortality in action.


Captures the essence of my thoughts on the matter in a lot fewer words.... thanks for saving me the keystrokes Coley.
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#913848 - 11/22/14 04:25 PM Re: Fighting BIG fish.... [Re: Sky-Guy]
eyeFISH Offline
Ornamental Rice Bowl

Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12767
Originally Posted By: Sky-Guy
Nicely played, until it got in the boat. I counted the fish out of the water the entire length of video from 10:18 to 11:53, including two edits of unknown length. Try holding your breath that long.

Very poor handling of such a magnificent fish.

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"get a picture, quick.... we don't have much time."

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#913850 - 11/22/14 04:36 PM Re: Fighting BIG fish.... [Re: eyeFISH]
Dave Vedder Offline
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Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8587
Loc: West Duvall
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#913853 - 11/22/14 05:07 PM Re: Fighting BIG fish.... [Re: Dave Vedder]
eyeFISH Offline
Ornamental Rice Bowl

Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12767
The sad truth about this vid is that NO ONE intentionally sets out to mortally harm a fish like this, yet even with the best of intentions, in the excitement of the moment, too many folks are utterly unaware of how much harm is really being done.

Yes, everyone wants that glory shot of a fish of a lifetime, but even the most conservation-minded folks really need to be more mindful of what it takes to maximize that fish's chances of actually making a contribution to the gene pool instead of just the river's nutrient pool.

Look... from the outset, the guide was immediately concerned about elapsed air time. Yet he took no pre-emptive precautionary measures to get the deed done as expeditiously as possible. These things MUST be considered BEFORE ever lifting the fish from the water. Most folks are completely unaware of how long it takes to get the deed done without being prepared and having a plan. The time clock is proof enough... and there's evidence of this all over the land of YouTube.

Hell the dude even had waders so there wasn't even a need to lift that fish into the boat in the first place.

And to be clear, my purpose here is not to hate on these guys, but instead to use the vid as a valuable teaching moment.
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#913856 - 11/22/14 05:40 PM Re: Fighting BIG fish.... [Re: eyeFISH]
supcoop Offline
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Registered: 03/11/05
Posts: 1132
Loc: Kirkland
"Glory shot"

If that is a glory shot with him giving the fish a bear hug then I have been doing it all wrong.

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#913870 - 11/22/14 07:02 PM Re: Fighting BIG fish.... [Re: supcoop]
eyeFISH Offline
Ornamental Rice Bowl

Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12767
I think it's officially called the fork lift
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#913897 - 11/23/14 12:00 AM Re: Fighting BIG fish.... [Re: eyeFISH]
GEAR MONGER 2 Offline
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Registered: 12/26/11
Posts: 160
Loc: Snohomish Co, Wa
Drove me crazy trying to watch the whole thing.

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#913911 - 11/23/14 02:58 AM Re: Fighting BIG fish.... [Re: GEAR MONGER 2]
The Moderator Offline
The Chosen One

Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 14486
Loc: Tuleville
Sadly, I've seen damn near just as bad (maybe not THAT bad)...from some of the people that responded in this thread.

Get off your soap boxes......

Please.

You've all been there. Myself included. Kukos to the client who caugt the king and kudos to the guide who had every good intentions and released the fish.

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#913928 - 11/23/14 12:02 PM Re: Fighting BIG fish.... [Re: The Moderator]
blackmouth Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/05/04
Posts: 2713
Loc: right place/wrong time
Oh PULLEEEEEEESE Parker, are you just trying to be a spoilsport?
Surely you know that reason has no place when dealing with an emotional issue.

Flame on Fellows.

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#913949 - 11/23/14 03:43 PM Re: Fighting BIG fish.... [Re: blackmouth]
On The Swing Offline
Spawner

Registered: 02/06/03
Posts: 783
Those guys suck ass.
And I can honestly say I have never been there parker, one of the many good points of being raised by a real sportsman and fisheries biologist.
I try to pass on the info and teach just how I was taught , with compassion and by trying to get the person to think about being in the fishes position
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#913960 - 11/23/14 05:43 PM Re: Fighting BIG fish.... [Re: On The Swing]
topwater Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 06/28/00
Posts: 452
Loc: Rocky Mountain High
i've been guilty of handling a king like that.....

right before i bleed it out

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#914014 - 11/24/14 10:28 AM Re: Fighting BIG fish.... [Re: Canyon Man]
Swifty27 Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 08/21/13
Posts: 389
Loc: Tri-Cities, WA


That was difficult to watch. I'll bet that guy smelled fantastic after for the rest of the day too.


Edited by Swifty27 (11/24/14 10:36 AM)

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#914018 - 11/24/14 11:29 AM Re: Fighting BIG fish.... [Re: Swifty27]
BroodBuster Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 07/11/04
Posts: 3113
Loc: Bothell, Wa
The first thought that came to my mind is that obviously Doc wasn't on board smile
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#914035 - 11/24/14 01:49 PM Re: Fighting BIG fish.... [Re: Canyon Man]
Blktailhunter Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 08/07/09
Posts: 485
Originally Posted By: Canyon Man
Take yer best shot. This oughta be fun....



And the king in your profile picture?

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#914063 - 11/24/14 06:18 PM Re: Fighting BIG fish.... [Re: Blktailhunter]
On The Swing Offline
Spawner

Registered: 02/06/03
Posts: 783
His fish looks dead there hunter..zoom in and look at the photo hard before you try to throw stones buddy
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#914075 - 11/24/14 08:13 PM Re: Fighting BIG fish.... [Re: On The Swing]
Direct-Drive Offline
ExtenZe Field Tester

Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 8060
Loc: Vancouver, WA
The guy looks like a dickhead.
They take on a certain appearance.

Prolly needs a good, backhand bitchslap/dunkin'.
That might get things adjusted properly.
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#914082 - 11/24/14 09:10 PM Re: Fighting BIG fish.... [Re: On The Swing]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 17149
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Originally Posted By: On The Swing
His fish looks dead there hunter..zoom in and look at the photo hard before you try to throw stones buddy


He has trouble keeping his mangina free of sand.

Most of the time, you couldn't pack any more in there.
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