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#916124 - 12/18/14 06:24 PM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: eyeFISH]
riverdick Offline
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Registered: 05/10/09
Posts: 137
Loc: around the next bend
Originally Posted By: eyeFISH
Originally Posted By: RB3
They're probably 5lbers stuffed with cocaine. Everything down there is a mule.


I think this one was stuffed with 25 kilos of coke.



Or mebbe it was just a another mule?

NAH... just another big ol' tule.


Another ol' tule. Being held by a BIG TOOL!

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#916139 - 12/19/14 01:30 AM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: Rag N Steel]
bhudda Offline
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Registered: 04/06/11
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Do yourself a favor and watch Trout Bum Diaries volume 1 Patagonia..they have been instrumental in the fishing video genre...some members have moved to MOTIVE FISHING / GEOBASS. not yur I just got a go pro upload to utube..there's a reason why Yvon Chouinard founder of Patagonia apparel fishes so much there..LOOP everywhere.
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#916145 - 12/19/14 08:45 AM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: Rag N Steel]
Salmo g. Offline
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Good to know that not all of the estancias are high falutin' irregular elitist enclaves. So there's a place for those RVRFSHR spoons on the private water after all. I never looked for any non-fly fishing options, but noticed that regular fishing does occur on popularly accessible waters. The lodge options I looked into are too rich for my blood, so I've considered other trout fishing farther north, where there are B&Bs and small hotels, and water you can get to with a rental car.

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#916171 - 12/19/14 03:50 PM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: Rag N Steel]
Slab Quest Offline
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There are private lakes near Elma that have fish similar to those
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#916175 - 12/19/14 04:20 PM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: Rag N Steel]
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Loc: Kona, Hawaii
I have to admit a drooling desire to chase those South American searun browns myself, but only after I've had a chance to land a few of these bad boys down that way first.......


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#916182 - 12/19/14 05:01 PM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: Mingo]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Originally Posted By: Mingo
I have to admit a drooling desire to chase those South American searun browns myself, but only after I've had a chance to land a few of these bad boys down that way first.......



Golden Dorado! I have a customer who bought some spoons to use for them and managed to catch a few on them...but looking at those fish I can't imagine there's much they wouldn't eat if they could see it and if it fit in their mouth!

Fish on...

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#916187 - 12/19/14 06:14 PM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: RUNnGUN]
willie makeit Offline
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Registered: 02/17/08
Posts: 114
Originally Posted By: RUNnGUN
Really taking off down there. Clancy Holt went not to long ago and slayed them.

http://www.salmonfishingnow.com/salmon-fishing-chile-argentina/
now they free drift for them, and sleds are rampant!

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#916194 - 12/19/14 09:19 PM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: Rag N Steel]
fishbadger Offline
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Registered: 03/06/01
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Loc: Gig Harbor, WA
We used to catch giant lake-run browns (high teeners). They look pretty cool, but they're not much good for anything else. . .fight like a chunk of bull kelp,

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#916272 - 12/21/14 02:18 AM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: ColeyG]
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Originally Posted By: ColeyG
I've looked pretty hard into DIY trips to Strobel (Jurassic) ....


Best Strobel vid on the net here...


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#916284 - 12/21/14 10:30 AM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: Rag N Steel]
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Todd Moen is the man. I've been mesmerized by just about everything he has made so far.
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#916318 - 12/21/14 03:22 PM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: ColeyG]
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Registered: 02/27/07
Posts: 297
Loc: Oly
Has there been any discussion about these "invasive" chinook?

What native populations have been adversely affected by non-native chinook plants. If the chinook are doing well, what species are being replaced. ????????

On the other hand. I really really really want to go there. banana

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#916320 - 12/21/14 03:37 PM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: Mingo]
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Registered: 02/22/09
Posts: 2832
Loc: Oregon Central Coast
Originally Posted By: Mingo
I have to admit a drooling desire to chase those South American searun browns myself, but only after I've had a chance to land a few of these bad boys down that way first.......



Mingo,

My brother in law is from Argentina. He has some family that guides for Dorado. Bialet Masse area out of Cordoba
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#916325 - 12/21/14 04:31 PM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: Rag N Steel]
ColeyG Offline
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The trout are not native either.
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#916404 - 12/22/14 08:04 AM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: Rag N Steel]
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Been reading a little more about Strobel (Jurassic) Lake. Very little info. out there as far as the biology of it's success. Just that trout were introduced 15 yrs. ago in the pristine lake, along with a food supply...scuds, and it took off. Curious what strain of trout were planted? Would any trout get that big based on it's environment and food supply? Anyone know where to find any history? Looks like something to add to the bucket list.
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#916411 - 12/22/14 09:22 AM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: Rag N Steel]
ColeyG Offline
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Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 3098
Loc: AK
Little to no predation or harvest, pristine spawning habitat and conditions, and abundant food. The perfect recipe for trout to grow plentiful and large.

There are several other lakes close by with very similar conditions in which trout were planted as well, but for some reason none have exploded the way Strobel has. The locals say it is all due to the food source, but I think the recipe is a little more complex than that. I've heard some say water temps and mineral/nutrient content play a role.

I've read a number of places that the rainbows transported to Argentina, Strobel included, came from the McCloud in, CA.

This book has some good background in addition to the usual where, when, what info:

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#916413 - 12/22/14 09:55 AM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: Rag N Steel]
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Registered: 12/11/02
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Loc: Carkeek Park
Coley,
Do you know anything about the size of the nearby lakes compared to Strobel?
It is hard to tell from the videos I've seen, but Strobel looks like a pretty good size lake. I wonder what the acreage is on it?
Perhaps a bigger lake would spread out the fish more and offer less competition for food, thus the increased growth rate.

Strobel also looks like it goes through some pretty good fluctuations in the water levels based on the high water marks. The dry white rocks look similar to some of our eastern Washington lakes with higher alkaline water contents.
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#916415 - 12/22/14 10:02 AM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: Rag N Steel]
OLD FB Offline
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Registered: 09/05/14
Posts: 196
Loc: Stanwood WA
Good info on the McCloud river strain of rainbows as they were the broodstock that seeded rivers in NZ if I'm correct.

Strobel reminds me of Pyramid Lake out in Nevada one of my early 80's haunts with its topography, incredibly windy conditions and large trout too.

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#916416 - 12/22/14 10:06 AM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: Rag N Steel]
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Ranger Danger

Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 3098
Loc: AK
There are lakes equal to, larger, and smaller than Strobel in fairly close proximity, most of which have had plants. Strobel is very large and nearly all of the fishing takes place on the south side near where the Barancoso comes in. The smaller lodge, Trophy Rainbow Fishing Camp is on the north side and closer to Ruta 40.
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#916433 - 12/22/14 12:20 PM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: Twitch]
Mingo Offline
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Registered: 03/27/05
Posts: 1552
Loc: Kona, Hawaii
Originally Posted By: Twitch
Originally Posted By: Mingo
I have to admit a drooling desire to chase those South American searun browns myself, but only after I've had a chance to land a few of these bad boys down that way first.......



Mingo,

My brother in law is from Argentina. He has some family that guides for Dorado. Bialet Masse area out of Cordoba


Thanks for the intel Twitch!
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#916434 - 12/22/14 12:29 PM Re: anyone ever been.... [Re: ColeyG]
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Registered: 02/22/09
Posts: 2832
Loc: Oregon Central Coast
Originally Posted By: ColeyG
Little to no predation or harvest, pristine spawning habitat and conditions, and abundant food. The perfect recipe for trout to grow plentiful and large.

There are several other lakes close by with very similar conditions in which trout were planted as well, but for some reason none have exploded the way Strobel has. The locals say it is all due to the food source, but I think the recipe is a little more complex than that. I've heard some say water temps and mineral/nutrient content play a role.

I've read a number of places that the rainbows transported to Argentina, Strobel included, came from the McCloud in, CA.

This book has some good background in addition to the usual where, when, what info:





Steelhead eggs were shipped down at eyed stage from the hatchery I work at too.
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