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#924428 - 03/07/15 06:11 PM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: bhudda]
fish4brains Offline
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The ranger should stake out the launch for a few mornings since his buddy's all think they know who's doing it.
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#924434 - 03/07/15 07:57 PM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: bankbum]
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Walking up to the offender mid-sh!t with a camera would not only get you evidence but I'm sure next week's winner to America's Funniest home videos
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#924442 - 03/08/15 09:43 AM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: bankbum]
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Ah, yes, 'tweakers'

Since they are blamed for 95% of property crimes on these boards, I wonder who was doing all this shite before they came on the scene a few years back?

Sure they are POS and steal stuff, but it cracks me up how they are the kneejerk reaction to everything bad


Edited by Slab Quest (03/08/15 10:06 AM)
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#924461 - 03/08/15 12:50 PM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: Slab Quest]
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IMHO these jerks are one step below sex offenders. I live in Mason County. We have a State Correction center to house the birth control poster children.
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#924466 - 03/08/15 01:23 PM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: bankbum]
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having that correction center is one reason mason county has so much trouble
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#924468 - 03/08/15 02:11 PM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: Slab Quest]
bankbum Offline
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Registered: 05/10/09
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Originally Posted By: Slab Quest
Ah, yes, 'tweakers'

Since they are blamed for 95% of property crimes on these boards, I wonder who was doing all this shite before they came on the scene a few years back?

Sure they are POS and steal stuff, but it cracks me up how they are the kneejerk reaction to everything bad


It really irritates me that everyone jumps on the "it's tweakers" bandwagon. Heaven forbid it's just a piece of [Bleeeeep!] fisherman that is causing the problems.
99% of us are capable of dropping a load anywhere see fit...some guys carry those cute little bags attached to a tube so they fall in that 1%
Nobody ever claim vandalism was a problem. Just a park getting trashed at a boat launch area, that never was an issue until fisherman started using it a couple weeks back.
Proof in right there. A coincidence it is not.
But again it doesn't surprise me to see some people take it as a joke and try to side track something that is a serious issue for our access to the river.

Arnold already placed a big log across the spot to slow down the launching of boats....hell only a few guys knew about the access available now and it has already been taken away. Smh.

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#924471 - 03/08/15 04:06 PM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: bankbum]
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For the record, I didn't say that the tweakers were the poopers. I just simply stated that I didn't agree with bank bum saying tweakers were not a problem at Schaefer, an unrelated topic to the poo situation. As far as the culprits to the fudge, I agree 100% it was probably the people using the access.

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#924474 - 03/08/15 06:59 PM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: bankbum]
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It may be time for the WDFW to issue a "how to [Bleeeeep!] in the wood" printed instruction on the back of the fishing licenses.


as a side note, I was just at the WDFW launch on kitsap lake today with my son, and in the 3 hours we were on the lake a couple of rice burners were in the parking lot squirreling around... then, when we were loading the boat a bunch of kids came down and threw a bunch of empty bottles in the bushes... its not just the fishermen...

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#924477 - 03/08/15 07:33 PM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: bankbum]
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It's never good when someone takes a sh!t in your sandbox
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#924479 - 03/08/15 07:44 PM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Piper
It may be time for the WDFW to issue a "how to [Bleeeeep!] in the wood" printed instruction on the back of the fishing licenses


OR.... They can bundle the 48" leader rule with a " one [Bleeeeep!] per day" pass.
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#924520 - 03/09/15 11:31 AM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: bankbum]
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Originally Posted By: bankbum
Arnold the park ranger at schafer state park on the satsop river has informed me that fisherman have been leaving human waste at the boat launch area just up river from the bridge at the park.

This is a public health risk, and it will end with the launch being closed. Aswell Arnold will be putting up cameras and citations will be handed out to those caught trashing the park.


This one's for you, Ranger Arnold...

They give me scat catch fever
Scat catch fever
I got a bad catch fever
The scat catch fever


Good luck!

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#924537 - 03/09/15 01:37 PM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: ]
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Registered: 10/28/09
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Originally Posted By: Piper
It may be time for the WDFW to issue a "how to [Bleeeeep!] in the wood" printed instruction on the back of the fishing licenses.


as a side note, I was just at the WDFW launch on kitsap lake today with my son, and in the 3 hours we were on the lake a couple of rice burners were in the parking lot squirreling around... then, when we were loading the boat a bunch of kids came down and threw a bunch of empty bottles in the bushes... its not just the fishermen...


This is an excellent point. Many people visit state parks every day who are neither tweakers nor fishermen, and yes, some of whom are both. Some percentage of all walks of life are of the ilk that litter everywhere they go and can't understand why any sucker would pay to use a landfill when there are miles upon miles of access to perfectly good forests in which you can dump your garbage for free. Think those people are more likely to drop a deuce wherever they get the notion than most? If so, I think you're right. Think you can pinpoint the demographic from which a majority of such scumbags originate? If so, I think you're wrong.

Most likely (regrettably), it seems that a relatively high percentage of those people like to fish (or snag/floss fish, as the case may be for some). This explains why the Lower Skokomish has a reputation for being heavily littered and sometimes heavily turd-laiden. Also regrettably, the Skok doesn't always have snaggable numbers of fish, and that's when the public poopers head to other fisheries to conduct their $hitty shenanigans.

I'm not suggesting that the Satsop doesn't have its fair share of such people without any help from the Skok crowd - I just wanted to make the point that we've seen plenty of evidence, almost everywhere we fish, that "fishermen" don't always practice good stewardship. To bankbum's point, we need to clean up our act before we start losing more precious access to the sport/pastime/hobby we love.

I know from past coversations with Ranger Arnold that he would like to keep the access at the park open. If you think about it, launching at the park (as opposed to Decker) is a better deal for everyone - better, safer parking, much less frequent vehicle prowls, a dedicated ranger to police the area... heck, even a potential for increased Discover Pass revenues if you care about that sort of thing. Hopefully, the word will get back to whoever did this, and he will feel shame and decide to change his ways. In a world full of give and take, a $hit is something that should be given in public places more often than taken.

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#924539 - 03/09/15 01:47 PM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: FleaFlickr02]
Piper
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Originally Posted By: FleaFlickr02
In a world full of give and take, a $hit is something that should be given in public places more often than taken.



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#924579 - 03/09/15 06:15 PM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: bankbum]
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Registered: 08/17/01
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Ideally a sniper with a 12 gage full of rock salt would shoot an offender right in the ass.

Then the perp could explain that to the MD in the ER
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#924628 - 03/09/15 09:36 PM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: bankbum]
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Who gives a $hit, unless there's a 48" plus leader coiled up in it?
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#924632 - 03/09/15 09:45 PM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: bankbum]
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It happens everywhere, as I sit here reading this funny business to my roommate she is telling me that they are having the SAME problem at evergreen state college...except that some one is doing it in the C dorm elevator, apparently the 4th time in as many months.
So your point on not being able to always know the demographic has a little more meaning.
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#924769 - 03/10/15 05:47 PM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: On The Swing]
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Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 1425
Originally Posted By: On The Swing
the 4th time in as many months.


DAMN TWEEKERS!
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#924770 - 03/10/15 05:58 PM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: On The Swing]
blackmouth Offline
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Loc: right place/wrong time
Originally Posted By: On The Swing
It happens everywhere, as I sit here reading this funny business to my roommate she is telling me that they are having the SAME problem at evergreen state college.


Why am I not surprised?
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#924771 - 03/10/15 06:10 PM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: bankbum]
TedR Offline
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Registered: 10/26/09
Posts: 466
Loc: South Sound
Originally Posted By: bankbum
It doesnt?

Let's see. Guys start using the boat launch...people start shitting at the boat launch which is left during the time frame the truck/trailers are parked feet from the launch, and none of this was a problem until the guys started using the launch.

Kind of a coincidence that is very hard to argue.



Was this before or after the dogwoods starting blooming? Because if it was after, the green truck guys did it since poop started appearing after the dogwoods started blooming last year and the green truck was there. If it was before, I blame the dudes in the black rig, because, well, who else could have done it?

And lets not get started about whether the poop appeared before the last new moon. But, any coincidences there should be considered.
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#924799 - 03/10/15 07:26 PM Re: guys trashing schafer state park [Re: TedR]
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Maybe Alfred the park ranger is doing it to get attention. Negative attention is better than no attention. Ask redhook.
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