Check

 

Defiance Boats!

LURECHARGE!

THE PP OUTDOOR FORUMS

Kast Gear!

Power Pro Shimano Reels G Loomis Rods

  Willie boats! Puffballs!

 

Three Rivers Marine

 

 
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#928105 - 04/24/15 08:37 AM eradicating sandshrimp
RPetzold Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 11/04/99
Posts: 1143
Loc: Everett, Wa
_________________________
Ryan S. Petzold
aka
'Sparkey' and/or 'Special'

Top
#928107 - 04/24/15 08:50 AM Re: eradicating sandshrimp [Re: RPetzold]
chrome/22 Offline
Captain C/22 - Team Stay Up Right!

Registered: 01/13/00
Posts: 4404
Loc: Hurricane Ridge , Wa.
Interesting article, thanks for the link.


c/22
_________________________
Apocalypse Steelheader.
Chucking gear as the end draws near.

Top
#928115 - 04/24/15 09:40 AM Re: eradicating sandshrimp [Re: RPetzold]
eyeFISH Offline
Ornamental Rice Bowl

Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12767
Funny I was just remarking to DrifterWA and rivrguy the other day about the almost complete lack of shrimp on the clam beaches immediately adjacent to Grays Harbor. On the way downbeach to the clam beds, one would typically walk thru a 15-20 yard band of shrimp that ran the entire length of the beach somewhere between high water and the first diggable razor clams. Bazillions of interconnected holes and tunnels dotted this zone.... often fooling eager tourists to start digging for clams a bit too high on the beach.

For some time now, this distinct intertidal zone on the beach has been DEVOID of shrimp. The proximity to oyster farms sprayed heavily with pesticide must surely be a factor.

Anyone else notice the lack of shrimp?

The other observation that puzzles me is the lack of parasitic (commensal) pea crabs normally found in the clams we dig. These were once a regular occurrence, but now extremely rare. (Much more prevalent is a parasitic fluke/leech that attaches inside the clams at the base of the siphon.) Out of hundreds of clams this year, I've seen ONE pea crab.

Coincidence?
_________________________
"Let every angler who loves to fish think what it would mean to him to find the fish were gone." (Zane Grey)

"If you don't kill them, they will spawn." (Carcassman)


The Keen Eye MD
Long Live the Kings!

Top
#928119 - 04/24/15 10:24 AM Re: eradicating sandshrimp [Re: RPetzold]
Jimmybob Offline
Fry

Registered: 11/27/11
Posts: 33
lets save a non native species ( the oysters in Willapa Bay are from the east coast since they harvested the native ones out completely.) By eradicating a native species. Good Job!

Top
#928122 - 04/24/15 11:05 AM Re: eradicating sandshrimp [Re: RPetzold]
steely slammer Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 02/24/00
Posts: 1529
iv'e noticed it for at least the last 10yrs.. where I dig clams there isn't many shrimp hole around.. takes awhile to get a couple doz shrimp. use to get three or so in one hole now u may get one every few holes u pump.. and I dig up north beaches.
_________________________
Where Destroying Fishing in Washington..

mainly region 6

Top
#928131 - 04/24/15 03:43 PM Re: eradicating sandshrimp [Re: eyeFISH]
Eric Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 3513
Quote:
On the way downbeach to the clam beds, one would typically walk thru a 15-20 yard band of shrimp that ran the entire length of the beach somewhere between high water and the first diggable razor clams. Bazillions of interconnected holes and tunnels dotted this zone.... often fooling eager tourists to start digging for clams a bit too high on the beach.

For some time now, this distinct intertidal zone on the beach has been DEVOID of shrimp. The proximity to oyster farms sprayed heavily with pesticide must surely be a factor.

Anyone else notice the lack of shrimp?




Yes. Very much so.

I never put 2 and 2 together until now as far as the spraying is concerned…..and it is a concern.

Not so long ago, I'd just bring along my shrimp pump to the beach when surf perch fishing and dig my bait before fishing. Usually wouldn't take more than 10-15 min to get what I needed. Now, it takes long enough that I risk missing the good part of the tide. It's easier to just buy em' at the store.

Good article.

Top
#928134 - 04/24/15 05:53 PM Re: eradicating sandshrimp [Re: RPetzold]
Steelheadman Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4214
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
I just buy them too. Haven't dug for a long time as it always took away 4 hours of fishing. May try this summer when we go over to our friends cabin before I head to the river. Hopefully the oyster beds haven't been sprayed. I wonder why somebody couldn't make money digging them in Willapa Bay, and selling, instead of spraying. They're more expensive than other baits like prawns.
_________________________
I'd Rather Be Fishing for Summer Steelhead!

Top
#928135 - 04/24/15 06:06 PM Re: eradicating sandshrimp [Re: Steelheadman]
Eric Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 3513
The price of sand shrimp is going up…..at least where I usually buy them. Maybe because the demand is exceeding the supply now???? Takes the supplier longer and more effort to get what used to take half the time.

Top
#928137 - 04/24/15 06:11 PM Re: eradicating sandshrimp [Re: RPetzold]
bk paige Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 12/22/14
Posts: 121
Loc: On the Sky
Soon to be esa listed! What a cluster f@#k.
_________________________
Wishin I was fishin the Sauk!!!
Catch and Release is not a crime!!!!

Top
#928142 - 04/24/15 08:49 PM Re: eradicating sandshrimp [Re: eyeFISH]
FishCatcher Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 04/17/01
Posts: 190
Loc: Lacey, WA
Up until 2 years ago I could dig my 10 dozen limit of sandshrimp at Roosevelt Beach. Last year at an area that had hundreds of shows had few. We would get less than a dozen adults. The last dig I tried a couple location and got zero. Puzzling how they just disappeared.

Top
#928147 - 04/25/15 07:04 AM Re: eradicating sandshrimp [Re: Eric]
Steelheadman Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4214
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
Originally Posted By: Eric
The price of sand shrimp is going up…..at least where I usually buy them. Maybe because the demand is exceeding the supply now???? Takes the supplier longer and more effort to get what used to take half the time.


I think I pay about $3 per dozen. Any place you can buy them in bulk? We used to get a half gallon for $15 from Harry in Newport but now they just sell them by the dozen but will throw in a few extra and they are always lively. He used to have an aerated tank.
_________________________
I'd Rather Be Fishing for Summer Steelhead!

Top
#928148 - 04/25/15 07:17 AM Re: eradicating sandshrimp [Re: Steelheadman]
Steelheadman Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4214
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
I blame the whale huggers. Didn't know greys pumped shrimp on the beaches.

Sand Shrimp Curtailment
_________________________
I'd Rather Be Fishing for Summer Steelhead!

Top
#928606 - 04/30/15 12:32 PM Re: eradicating sandshrimp [Re: RPetzold]
Keta Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 03/05/00
Posts: 1092
http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2015/04/oysters-and-pesticides-washington-state.html

I'm urging everyone I know to contact all the Washington oyster farmers and tell them their product is off the table until they can prove their product is not contaminated with these neurotoxins and stop poisoning our state waters.

Top
#928613 - 04/30/15 01:05 PM Re: eradicating sandshrimp [Re: RPetzold]
Sky-Guy Offline
The Tide changed

Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7232
Loc: Everett
Next year we will hear about Fishermen spraying beaches with pesticides engineered specifically to kill oysters in an effort to bring back the sandshromps. Ya know, those oysters are screwing up all the sandshromp habitat.
_________________________
You know something bad is going to happen when you hear..."Hey, hold my beer and watch this"

Top
#928619 - 04/30/15 01:38 PM Re: eradicating sandshrimp [Re: ]
gooybob Offline
Spawner

Registered: 03/01/11
Posts: 993
Loc: Tacoma
Amen!

Top
#928702 - 04/30/15 07:27 PM Re: eradicating sandshrimp [Re: Sky-Guy]
Eric Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 3513
Originally Posted By: Sky-Guy
Next year we will hear about Fishermen spraying beaches with pesticides engineered specifically to kill oysters in an effort to bring back the sandshromps. Ya know, those oysters are screwing up all the sandshromp habitat.



……and after that, the fundraiser "Shromp Stomp 2015"

Top
#928717 - 04/30/15 07:59 PM Re: eradicating sandshrimp [Re: Eric]
cts3767 Offline
Egg

Registered: 03/21/13
Posts: 3
Loc: South Sound
More press from earlier this week (Seattle Times)...

Link:
Disbelief Over State Plan to Spray Neurotoxin Into Oyster Beds

Top
#928739 - 04/30/15 09:15 PM Re: eradicating sandshrimp [Re: RPetzold]
Steelheadman Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4214
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
Save the Sandshrimp!

King 5 was running a story about the eradication in GH and WB this morning.


Edited by Steelheadman (04/30/15 09:16 PM)
_________________________
I'd Rather Be Fishing for Summer Steelhead!

Top
#928740 - 04/30/15 09:17 PM Re: eradicating sandshrimp [Re: Steelheadman]
Steelheadman Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4214
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
_________________________
I'd Rather Be Fishing for Summer Steelhead!

Top
#928872 - 05/02/15 09:04 AM Re: eradicating sandshrimp [Re: RPetzold]
DrifterWA Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 5077
Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
Oyster owners got their hands slapped......NO MORE SPRAYING, should never have been allowed in 1st place.
_________________________
"Worse day sport fishing, still better than the best day working"

"I thought growing older, would take longer"

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

Search

Site Links
Home
Our Washington Fishing
Our Alaska Fishing
Reports
Rates
Contact Us
About Us
Recipes
Photos / Videos
Visit us on Facebook
Today's Birthdays
Carcassman, Clipfin, Danny Clyde, Dannyboy, dk1948, Twitch
Recent Gallery Pix
hatchery steelhead
Hatchery Releases into the Pacific and Harvest
Who's Online
0 registered (), 944 Guests and 3 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
John Boob, Lawrence, I'm Still RichG, feyt, Freezeout
11498 Registered Users
Top Posters
Todd 28170
Dan S. 17149
Sol Duc 16138
The Moderator 14486
Salmo g. 13523
eyeFISH 12767
STRIKE ZONE 12107
Dogfish 10979
ParaLeaks 10513
Jerry Garcia 9160
Forum Stats
11498 Members
16 Forums
63778 Topics
645361 Posts

Max Online: 3001 @ 01/28/20 02:48 PM

Join the PP forums.

It's quick, easy, and always free!

Working for the fish and our future fishing opportunities:

The Wild Steelhead Coalition

The Photo & Video Gallery. Nearly 1200 images from our fishing trips! Tips, techniques, live weight calculator & more in the Fishing Resource Center. The time is now to get prime dates for 2018 Olympic Peninsula Winter Steelhead , don't miss out!.

| HOME | ALASKA FISHING | WASHINGTON FISHING | RIVER REPORTS | FORUMS | FISHING RESOURCE CENTER | CHARTER RATES | CONTACT US | WHAT ABOUT BOB? | PHOTO & VIDEO GALLERY | LEARN ABOUT THE FISH | RECIPES | SITE HELP & FAQ |