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#928402 - 04/28/15 10:26 PM Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
eyeFISH Offline
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Registered: 11/24/03
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.... about taking my limit of 10 black rockfish the other day.



Cue up to about 5:30 to watch them haul that net aboard and empty it on deck. Industrial scale ocean mining doesn't even begin to describe it.
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#928404 - 04/28/15 11:06 PM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: eyeFISH]
Black Bart Offline
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Registered: 04/28/10
Posts: 319
Loc: Adna
Assalotta fish. Who eats all dat stuff ?
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#928405 - 04/28/15 11:26 PM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: eyeFISH]
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Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
We do, Costco, Safeway, Top Foods, etc.
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#928406 - 04/28/15 11:33 PM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: eyeFISH]
bk paige Offline
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Registered: 12/22/14
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Loc: On the Sky
Rape and pillage!!!
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#928407 - 04/29/15 05:58 AM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: eyeFISH]
cncfish Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 02/24/11
Posts: 258
Loc: whale pass
was that sharks I saw attacking the ones falling out around 4:30?

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#928409 - 04/29/15 07:16 AM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: eyeFISH]
Swifty27 Offline
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Registered: 08/21/13
Posts: 389
Loc: Tri-Cities, WA
I'm sure they were all promptly bled and iced.

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#928415 - 04/29/15 10:08 AM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: eyeFISH]
STRIKE ZONE Offline
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Registered: 08/09/00
Posts: 12107
Loc: Hobart,Wa U.S.A
Yeah no blood shot meat there.Good luck,

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#928424 - 04/29/15 11:57 AM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: eyeFISH]
SBD Offline
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Registered: 10/19/09
Posts: 3743
Loc: Water
I'm guessing either a Aussie or European Factory Trawler with a 35tn catch so everything is processed onboard. The big market for redfish is Asian to go with their rice bowels. That bag needs work! I was cringing as it was distorting coming up the ramp, the bright orange globes about every 10 ft along the top are part of the net sensor system.
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#928429 - 04/29/15 01:45 PM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: SBD]
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Registered: 01/17/04
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Loc: Sheltona Beach
I was thinking Atlantic as well. Were those salmon as bycatch?

Every year there is an auction of the Pollock roe taken from the West coast. Same thing going on here. beathead
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#928432 - 04/29/15 02:29 PM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: eyeFISH]
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Registered: 12/29/99
Posts: 1611
Loc: Vancouver, Washington
Those fish look like orange roughy, which would make it New Zeland or Australia. If so, bottom trawling is the worst way to capture those fish. The otter doors tear up the habitat so that it can no longer support future stocks of orange roughy. Mining the ocean is exactly correct. Get'em once and they're done. Gone.

Just devastating.

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#928435 - 04/29/15 03:11 PM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: eyeFISH]
SBD Offline
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Registered: 10/19/09
Posts: 3743
Loc: Water
The silvery fish look more like a mackerel to me and can't call it bycatch without knowing the regulations for this area.
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#928441 - 04/29/15 03:38 PM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: SBD]
slabhunter Offline
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Registered: 01/17/04
Posts: 3742
Loc: Sheltona Beach
True, perhaps Tongal tuna @12:25?

The fact remains that this method of harvest is unsustainable. 2cents

Much like the gillnets on the lower CR. Select for size of fish. Not if they are ESA listed.
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#928446 - 04/29/15 03:52 PM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: slabhunter]
SBD Offline
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Registered: 10/19/09
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Loc: Water
12:25 still doesn't look like a salmon and if you go to the you tube version it's an Icelandic FT. Whether or not it's sustainable I guess depends on how well its managed. 2cents
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#928453 - 04/29/15 04:18 PM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: SBD]
slabhunter Offline
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Registered: 01/17/04
Posts: 3742
Loc: Sheltona Beach
It doesn't Matter if it is Dutch, Japanese, or American corporations. they are all looking for our public handout.

Management at the PFMC has been missing. The population change and efforts to restore salmon should be reflected to the home waters.
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#928488 - 04/29/15 06:31 PM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: eyeFISH]
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Registered: 10/26/09
Posts: 466
Loc: South Sound
Mamma needs her fish sticks, no time for real food after a long night of soccer practice.
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#928498 - 04/29/15 07:03 PM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: eyeFISH]
NickD90 Offline
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Registered: 10/26/10
Posts: 7260
Loc: Snohomish, WA
Surimi factories must be fed. Sad.
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#928514 - 04/29/15 08:39 PM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: eyeFISH]
eyeFISH Offline
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People suck.... the future is phucked...

http://www.theguardian.com/global-develo...ion-in-pictures
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#928578 - 04/30/15 08:55 AM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: eyeFISH]
Bay wolf Offline
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Registered: 10/26/12
Posts: 1075
Loc: Graham, WA
No worries. They released 5 fish for sustainability!


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#928620 - 04/30/15 01:43 PM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: eyeFISH]
gooybob Offline
Spawner

Registered: 03/01/11
Posts: 993
Loc: Tacoma
Pathetic. Isn't greed wonderful? What are all of the commercials and Indians going to do when they've fished everything out? Start netting birds?

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#928650 - 04/30/15 03:39 PM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: eyeFISH]
FleaFlickr02 Offline
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Registered: 10/28/09
Posts: 3314
What I'd really like to know is how much of what gets harvested goes to waste. I know the processors don't waste much of anything, but how much fish rots in display cases before it can be sold? I bet it's not much less than 20%....

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#928654 - 04/30/15 04:07 PM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: eyeFISH]
cohoangler Offline
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Registered: 12/29/99
Posts: 1611
Loc: Vancouver, Washington
You can bet the waste is substantial. The fish at the bottom of the net got crushed by the weight of the fish above them, and cooked by the friction associated with dragging the heavy net on board. That's probably 20% loss right there......

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#928758 - 05/01/15 01:37 AM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: eyeFISH]
luckydogss Offline
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Registered: 09/20/06
Posts: 92
Loc: Renton
There isn't much waste when those processors make surimi. Those fish are left to stiffen up in that bin the net is emptied into. Then they'll get processed and most every scrap is taken. The blood in the meat is "whitened" out. Yum!!

Those fish are definitely not from around here but it's the same process in AK. It's amazing to see hauls of fish like that and know it takes place in every ocean. Some are sustainable( for now) and some aren't but there's by-catch in every fishery and that is wasted. The fish are dead and thrown over for the crabs- makes no sense.

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#928766 - 05/01/15 07:43 AM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: eyeFISH]
SeaDNA Offline
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Registered: 11/17/04
Posts: 353
From the youtube description - "Fishing in Iceland waters in the North Atlantic. Big catch of red fish hauled on board a freezing trawler. Documentary of fishing in the valuable water around Iceland."

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#928773 - 05/01/15 09:57 AM Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad... [Re: luckydogss]
CedarR Offline
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Registered: 08/04/99
Posts: 1463
Loc: Olympia, WA
Originally Posted By: luckydogss
There isn't much waste when those processors make surimi. Those fish are left to stiffen up in that bin the net is emptied into. Then they'll get processed and most every scrap is taken. The blood in the meat is "whitened" out. Yum!!


My son had to take a video deposition on a surimi processor concerning a worker who had lost a finger while making fake crab. He stopped eating surimi after that assignment.

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