#930445 - 05/21/15 07:10 AM
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Two suspected shoplifters shot by Olympia police
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Two men suspected of attempting to steal beer from the west Olympia Safeway were shot by an Olympia police officer early Thursday morning.
Employees at the Safeway at 3215 Harrison Avenue W. reported about 1 a.m. that two black men had attempted to steal beer and when confronted by employees, threw the items at them and fled, according to a news release.
An officer found two men matching the description a short distance away and a few minutes later notified dispatch that he had been involved in a shooting.
Preliminary reports were that both men had been shot in the chest. One suspect is in stable condition at Tacoma General Hospital. One is in critical condition at St. Peters, according to Olympia Police Chief Ronnie Roberts.
Both men are in their twenties and believed to be from the Thurston County area.
The officer, who has been an officer for 3 years, has been put on administrative leave while the incident is investigated, following Olympia Police Department policy. The Thurston County Critical Incident Team is investigating the shooting. The Critical Incident Team is composed of detectives from five local agencies.
Cooper Point Road in the area of 14th Avenue NW is closed for the investigation.
More details will be released throughout the day.
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#930446 - 05/21/15 07:48 AM
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River Nutrients
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I'd shoot some sumbitch trying to steal my beer too........
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#930475 - 05/21/15 01:10 PM
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wonder if there will be riots in Olympia now. hearing that they were not armed. you know how rumors fly around after shoots like this
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#930477 - 05/21/15 01:31 PM
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#930482 - 05/21/15 02:12 PM
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#930484 - 05/21/15 02:19 PM
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 05/28/13
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They couldn't pay for the beer because they blew their wad at the green cross store on Black Lk Blvd. Don't bring a skateboard to a gunfight is my thought.
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#930485 - 05/21/15 02:33 PM
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Registered: 05/03/01
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Just from what I've ready in the Daily Zero so far: Two brothers attempted to steal beer. Officer locates suspects a few minutes later in the area. Officer contacts them, and an assault happens, possibly with skate boards. Officer shoots or shoots at one, the brothers disengage, then approach the officer again where he shoot at the other brother. Things I learned: 1. Don't steal. Bad things can happen. 2. Get away from the area if you are stupid enough to fail at stealing beer. Oh wait, they failed at stealing beer so they are probably pretty stupid to begin with. 3. When contacted by an officer, comply, especially if you know you were a dumbshit. DO NOT swing at the officer with a skate board. 4. If somebody shoots or shoots at you, and you are able to get away, stay away. If you approach them in another attempt to assault them, armed only with a skateboard, you're probably going to get shot at, again. In case you don't think a skateboard is a weapon, here you go. http://fox43.com/2014/08/25/red-lion-ma ... al-attack/ Just google skateboard attacks.
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#930486 - 05/21/15 02:37 PM
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#930494 - 05/21/15 04:12 PM
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We all know that apprehending a couple of shop lifters is more important than 1. The life of the officer 2.the life of shoplifters.
No sense in backing off an waiting for a better opportunity to deal with it. My guess is the 90 days of training at door shaker school and the overwhelming need to make up for a small penis forced the cop to charge in and make the bust of the century. Common sense failed on both sides and as long as people continue to be afeared they will allow cops to pull this BS. This door shaker has proven unqualified to carry a gun.
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#930495 - 05/21/15 04:44 PM
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We all know that apprehending a couple of shop lifters is more important than 1. The life of the officer 2.the life of shoplifters.
No sense in backing off an waiting for a better opportunity to deal with it. My guess is the 90 days of training at door shaker school and the overwhelming need to make up for a small penis forced the cop to charge in and make the bust of the century. Common sense failed on both sides and as long as people continue to be afeared they will allow cops to pull this BS. This door shaker has proven unqualified to carry a gun. common sense tells me not to hit a cop with a skateboard... what does it tell you?
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#930496 - 05/21/15 05:00 PM
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Its irrelevant . What led up to the cop getting hit with the skate board and how much opportunity was there to avoid the altercation in the first place? Back up? Taser?
I guarantee you your two boys are about to enter a phase of life that requires them to suspend common sense at times on the name of fun. You ok with them getting shot over it or do you hope someone with some common sense will exercise judgement?
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#930501 - 05/21/15 05:47 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/21/07
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Why does being a boy of a certain age require the suspension of common sense? They may do dumb things but should be smart enough to figure a way out that is safe.
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#930503 - 05/21/15 06:03 PM
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hormones, peer pressure, rites of passage or just simply differentiating your self from others. lots of reasons common sense gets suspended. Sometimes you need other people to exercise common sense to get out safely.
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#930505 - 05/21/15 06:41 PM
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If you assault a highly trained man with a gun, what do you think will happen? They didn't run, they approached and assaulted and received the amount of force the officer felt justified using. There is a growing movement in this country that laws do not need to be followed and police officers can be treated less than human. If you don't want to deal with a highly trained man with a gun, don't break the law.
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#930509 - 05/21/15 06:59 PM
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By what standard are they highly trained? The avg patrol officer in the state of Washington spends 6 months in an academy. nsme another profession that makes life and death decisions everyday that has that little training. Quit treating them like a special class of people and treat them like any other profession and hold them accountable.
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#930513 - 05/21/15 07:36 PM
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The officers standard of training is not our determination to make. The offenders would not have been shot if they did not assault the officer. The officer acted in self-defense and had he used a less than lethal option he may have been overtaken by the offenders with the possibility of suffering great bodily harm or death. It's his duty to enforce the law, protect himself and other citizens.
Stealing beer, assaulting civilians and police officers may not be justify lethal force to you, but the officer is applying his standard of training to the situation. It's a shame you don't feel police should be able to protect themselves. Officer deaths have doubled in the last year because amazingly enough criminals do not like them.
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#930517 - 05/21/15 07:55 PM
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SEATTLE (AP) — One of the officers who killed an immigrant farmworker in Washington state in a shooting that helped fuel the nationwide debate over police use of force had dragged the man away from his burning rental home just weeks earlier. http://www.seattlepi.com/news/crime/arti...ged-6215572.php
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#930518 - 05/21/15 07:57 PM
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You need to do your homework being a cop is not anywhere near as dangerous as you believe . I thought the officers worked for the citizens and by definition are accountable to the citizens? They are not atonomus entities. I meet traditionally every six months with the King County Sheriff as a part of my communities organization. We have met every 45 days recently due to a spike in property crime. their response is we need more money to hire more officers even though crime is down and the size of the police force has quadrupled in the past 20 years. Citizens have a huge role in how the officers are trained and expected to react with their comunities. I was shocked to hear how little training they undergo to be put into the field and how little they receive over time. If an officer is shooting an unarmed shoplifter or is even putting himself into position have to use deadly force against said , something is wrong. Take police off the pedestal treat them like every other profession and hold them accountable. Since 911 cops and firemen have become gods. Great PR campaign sucks for freedom.
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#930519 - 05/21/15 08:00 PM
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wow...
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#930521 - 05/21/15 08:06 PM
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Its irrelevant . What led up to the cop getting hit with the skate board and how much opportunity was there to avoid the altercation in the first place? Back up? Taser?
I guarantee you your two boys are about to enter a phase of life that requires them to suspend common sense at times on the name of fun. You ok with them getting shot over it or do you hope someone with some common sense will exercise judgement? cops are not trained to avoid contact with suspects, what led to an "altercation" was the morons whacking him with a skateboard... As far as my boys are concerned, if they put aside common sense and give into peer pressure, and do something as stupid as these morons did, I would not blame the cops... I would blame myself for not instilling enough of a sense of right from wrong and actions and consequenses...
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#930527 - 05/21/15 09:33 PM
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You need to do your homework being a cop is not anywhere near as dangerous as you believe . I thought the officers worked for the citizens and by definition are accountable to the citizens? They are not atonomus entities. I meet traditionally every six months with the King County Sheriff as a part of my communities organization. We have met every 45 days recently due to a spike in property crime. their response is we need more money to hire more officers even though crime is down and the size of the police force has quadrupled in the past 20 years. Citizens have a huge role in how the officers are trained and expected to react with their comunities. I was shocked to hear how little training they undergo to be put into the field and how little they receive over time. If an officer is shooting an unarmed shoplifter or is even putting himself into position have to use deadly force against said , something is wrong. Take police off the pedestal treat them like every other profession and hold them accountable. Since 911 cops and firemen have become gods. Great PR campaign sucks for freedom. It's really easy to arm chair quarterback a situation from an emotional point of view, as you continue to do. Your idea of the proper response to being Assaulted by a blunt object with no other officers on scene is obviously not in agreement with mine or the officers legal right to defend himself. You take no position on the threatening behavior of the offenders while stating that Police are accountable to the citizens and blatantly state the job is not dangerous, even when the statistics are contrary to your position. It's great you are engaged in your community, but you again are in disagreement with the department. You do not state any reason for the expanded size of the dept. such as population growth, enhanced documentation, higher priorities and new criminal enterprises that cut into staffing hours.
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#930528 - 05/21/15 09:34 PM
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What nobody seems too worried about is he was living here illegally for 10 or so years. If they had deported him after he f'd up a couple of times he might still be alive.
actually hank, most likely he'd have been killed right away at the hands of the cartel, federally, or US border patrol trying to get back in...
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#930530 - 05/21/15 09:45 PM
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A couple of citizen's that the police should be held accountable to. Here is their track records at 21 and 24 years old: Andre Thompson’s criminal history includes guilty pleas in Clark County District Court to supplying liquor to a minor, minor in possession of alcohol and bail jumping in 2012, according to court records. In another case, the same year, he pleaded guilty in Clark County to obstructing a law-enforcement officer while a third-degree theft charge was dismissed. In 2013, he was cited in Tumwater, Thurston County, for operating a motor vehicle without a valid license and having no valid operator license. In April, he was ticketed in Lewis County for failure to wear a safety belt. Bryson Chaplin’s criminal history includes a 2012 guilty plea in Clark County Superior Court to taking a motor vehicle without permission, according to court records. He also has an extensive juvenile-court record in Clark County, including guilty pleas for second-degree robbery, taking a motor vehicle without permission, theft and assault. http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news...tings-of-2-men/
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#930531 - 05/21/15 09:55 PM
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Hookup,
Lots of assumptions on both sides as the facts have not been vetted yet. My big question is how is it in the publics interest to escalate a simple shop lift to this level? How does the public benefit? How many people were harmed by shop lifters in the past 10 years ? Would the officer have attempted to take the suspects in custody without a gun? What would have happened if he waited for back up? Followed them or taken a less confrontational approach . Could the public have been served just as well?
On the other side of the coin Why don't the police sit outside every bar in town and wait for drunks to drive off they kill 10's of 1000's every year but they sit on on ramps during rush hour to bust commuters speeding? Why does King county Sherriffs office not respond to property crime calls under $10k in loss but a simple fender bender draws 9 squad cars and two aid units?
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#930533 - 05/21/15 10:08 PM
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On the other side of the coin Why don't the police sit outside every bar in town and wait for drunks to drive off they kill 10's of 1000's every year
you must not frequent bars in Bellevue often... the only thing for the night shift cop to do is hang out outside the bars and on the on ramps to 405... came out of the pumphouse one saturday night at 2 am with all the cops in town lined up ready to nab the drunken bastards staggering thru the front door
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#930540 - 05/21/15 11:25 PM
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Poodle Smolt
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Rob Roy, you are an idiot and embody everything wrong with the state of this country at the moment.
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#930543 - 05/22/15 12:18 AM
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Hookup,
Lots of assumptions on both sides as the facts have not been vetted yet. My big question is how is it in the publics interest to escalate a simple shop lift to this level? How does the public benefit? How many people were harmed by shop lifters in the past 10 years ? Would the officer have attempted to take the suspects in custody without a gun? What would have happened if he waited for back up? Followed them or taken a less confrontational approach . Could the public have been served just as well?
On the other side of the coin Why don't the police sit outside every bar in town and wait for drunks to drive off they kill 10's of 1000's every year but they sit on on ramps during rush hour to bust commuters speeding? Why does King county Sherriffs office not respond to property crime calls under $10k in loss but a simple fender bender draws 9 squad cars and two aid units? What I am hearing you say is the officer should only do his job if he can do it in a non-confrontational way and with a full staff. And further he should fail to protect the business that had its employees assaulted and items repeatedly stolen by the same offenders in the interest of the ensured well being of the offenders. Is that correct? Taking your approach the officer should just carry a crystal ball so he can predict what the offender will do, what weapons he has and how long it will take his back up to arrive.
Edited by HOOKUP (05/22/15 12:26 AM)
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#930548 - 05/22/15 07:50 AM
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Registered: 10/20/10
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I don't have to carry a gun everywhere in case the opportunity to shoot someone comes up Dogfish. Your fear based view of the world and desire to live in an armed Police state are what's wrong with the world. Hold on to that gun tight there's a boogey man out there somewhere.
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#930550 - 05/22/15 07:54 AM
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 05/28/13
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Rob Roy, you are an idiot and embody everything wrong with the state of this country at the moment. Thank you Andy for possibly opening this persons mind. Unbelievable how so many support criminals.
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#930552 - 05/22/15 08:31 AM
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Not really if you think it through which as it's been pointed out you never do. If crime is down in 10 zip codes in a county but up in one could over all come be lower based on averages. That's high school logic not even CC level mr Wizard.
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#930553 - 05/22/15 08:34 AM
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the US has 4.4 % of the worlds population and houses 22% of the worlds prisoners. We also have the most police to population ratio by a long shot. Let's double down on what got us there instead at looking at a different way of doing things.
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#930555 - 05/22/15 08:48 AM
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If we follow Rob Roy's advice and the apparent intentions of the nearly 400 people who demonstrated in Olympia yesterday following the police shooting of two theft suspects, we will succeed in making Olympia a much safer community in which to steal beer. Is that really what we want as our community standard? Good grief, what's going on in the gray matter between the ears of people like that?
I don't want a community that supports the notion of actions have consequences where the action can be that if you steal beer the consequence is free drinks. I much prefer an action - consequence relationship where if you steal beer (or anything else) you have a reasonable chance of being shot and killed, thereby implementing Darwinian selection favoring people who are smart enough to decide not to steal.
Hank,
Violent crime is down significantly nationwide; however property crime is way up in WA state. I think one likely and highly probable reason for the increase in property crime is that our society has decided to shift its available enforcement resources to violent crime (logical) and away from property crime. That, coupled with society's reluctance to allow citizens to shoot and kill thieves who don't pose a violent threat, creates a condition that practically encourages property crime. The observable results certainly speak to and support that conclusion.
As for the Mexican who was shot by cops in the Tri-Cities a few months ago, the facts of the case are different. Altho the man has a bit of a record, his crime immediately prior to being shot was that of throwing dirt clods at passing cars, and then running from police when ordered to stop. He didn't pose a threat to anyone nor try to assault police officers, so the investigation continues. There's a good chance it wasn't a "clean" shoot.
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#930559 - 05/22/15 09:52 AM
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You think police are overpaid, undertrained and work at a job that isn't dangerous. Even so, you want more of them in your neighborhood to deal with an increase in property crimes.
I think you're full of sh!t.
What we have here is just a simple matter of opinions that differ. Hank to quote KK you are a dumbfuk . Show me where I said I wanted more police? I believe I said that was the Sheiffs solution. Also show me where I said they were over paid. Also show me where I said it was not dangerous? I believe I said not as dangerous as hook up claimed. It's impossible to have a discussion with you so I won't . SG , you are in Hank territory. Show me where I said I thought there should be no consequences? I simple said escalating a shop lift to a shooting is poor police work and there are better ways to handle it.
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#930562 - 05/22/15 10:31 AM
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The brothers escalated the shoplifting to assault when they threw beer bottles at the Safeway employees, and then again when they attacked the officer. They were the ones who made that choice. Not the officer.
Bryson Chaplin has 3 criminal issue that aren't juvenile since 8/18/2014. Andre Damon Thompson has at least 6 since 8/22/2012. A number of their offenses occurred on the same date, so it isn't their first time acting as a criminal team.
Edited by Dogfish (05/22/15 10:31 AM)
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#930564 - 05/22/15 10:44 AM
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escalating a shop lift to a shooting is poor police work and there are better ways to handle it. and escalating a shop lifting to assaulting a police officer is piss poor criminal behavior... and down right dangerous to boot
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#930569 - 05/22/15 11:34 AM
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Hank only a dumfuk would read what I have posted and say I want more police presence . I want less. People should be responsible for their own safety and we should expand self protection rights. I believe we live in a police state. I want fewer police harassing innocent citizens and would like more focus on the 5% of the population that commits 90% of crime.
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#930571 - 05/22/15 12:06 PM
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ExtenZe Field Tester
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Just google skateboard attacks.
A while ago in Old Town/Portland an old guy was hosing off the sidewalk in front of his shop. Some punk transient didn't like the wet sidewalk and beat the old guy with a skateboard. Put him in the hospital. They got the punk. http://www.katu.com/news/local/Man-sentenced-in-Portland-skateboard-assault-Dorson-247062521.htmlIt can be a weapon just like a lot of innocent-looking objects.
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#930573 - 05/22/15 12:17 PM
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I was saddened to hear an incident of this nature had occurred in my home town. The sadness returned when I heard both of the perps had survived. I don't have the social worker mentality; don't believe in rehabbing repeat offenders. When a fleeing thief perishes after wrapping a stolen car around a pole, I don't send flowers.
Criminals, both common and uncommon, put an incredible strain on a civil society. They are "weeds" and should be dealt with accordingly. Time will tell whether the officer in this incident deserves a commendation, or not.
Some sage advice: Mama, don't let your babies grow up to be... petty thieves, thugs, and arrest resisting azzholes.
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#930574 - 05/22/15 12:18 PM
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Hank only a dumfuk would read what I have posted and say I want more police presence . I want less. People should be responsible for their own safety and we should expand self protection rights. I believe we live in a police state. I want fewer police harassing innocent citizens and would like more focus on the 5% of the population that commits 90% of crime. You talk in circles-- people responsible for their own safety and then you berate Dogfish for concealed carry.
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#930575 - 05/22/15 12:29 PM
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#930581 - 05/22/15 01:31 PM
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At 12:48 you see the brother in the black shirt swing his skateboard as a weapon. Interesting. Almost like they were practicing how to deal with an attempted apprehension by someone.
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#930582 - 05/22/15 01:37 PM
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. . . I want fewer police harassing innocent citizens and would like more focus on the 5% of the population that commits 90% of crime. RR, If police and citizens whacked that 5% that commits 90% of the crime, you realize, don't you, that the crime rate would decrease by 90%? How would that not be a good outcome for law-abiding society?
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#930583 - 05/22/15 01:53 PM
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Hank, it's a community board meeting I am not the only attendee. The hand wringers want more police.in their mind there is a peep behind every bush. The police want more police because that's what empire builders do. the criminals want more shat to sell to buy drugs.
jerry, it's only a circle if you feel you need a gun to protect yourself at all times. I have never been in a situation where I feel a gun would have helped so I don't see concealed carry as a benefit. Guns at home are a different story.
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#930584 - 05/22/15 01:55 PM
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you have more people threatening or potentially threatening you at your home than in public?
you should move...
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#930585 - 05/22/15 02:06 PM
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yes absolutely . However I think statistically the real bad guys are a small percentage of the 5% let's concentrate on them. What I Oppose is the police treating everyone like a 5%er until we can prove otherwise. Btw I had a friend in college who thought it was Ok to steal beer , he would just walk in and grab a case and walk out. He now runs a multi billion dollar corp. I bet he is still a thief.
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#930586 - 05/22/15 02:08 PM
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Evo , I have no idea how you could even come close to that deduction.
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#930587 - 05/22/15 02:12 PM
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"I have never been in a situation where I feel a gun would have helped so I don't see concealed carry as a benefit. Guns at home are a different story."
that says in the general public you have never encountered a situation as to where you would need a firearm to protect you...
Guns at home are a different story, says that you have, and want guns in your home to protect you incase you encounter a situation where you need to use a firearm...
if the stupid little fvcks didnt act like stupid little fvcks they wouldnt have got shot, plain simple, to the point....
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#930588 - 05/22/15 02:24 PM
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No I said I have never been in situation where a fire arm would have helped the situation. The situation in oly was escalated because a gun was present. I seriously doubt the officer would have confronted the two with out a weapon. He most likely would have followed them and waited for help.
Where else are you supposed to store your guns if it's not at home?
I have been all over the world and the state of Washington is not even remotely a dangerous place.
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#930589 - 05/22/15 02:34 PM
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"The hand wringers want more police.in their mind there is a peep behind every bush."
About time you stick a new tab under the tongue and crank it up.
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#930590 - 05/22/15 02:34 PM
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#930591 - 05/22/15 02:42 PM
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I will buy you a couple of shots when you drop off the tabs Too Many. whoops
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#930592 - 05/22/15 02:55 PM
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This all could have been avoided if these two kids were at work.
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#930593 - 05/22/15 03:02 PM
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Registered: 05/03/01
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Or away at college.
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#930594 - 05/22/15 03:06 PM
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#930595 - 05/22/15 03:21 PM
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#930665 - 05/24/15 07:51 PM
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You may be right FP but this sums up the thought process. It's like checking off the criteria that allows you to shoot vs looking for a way not to shoot. Most psychopaths have a manifesto that justifies their actions before they take them. Eerily similar.
The brothers escalated the shoplifting to assault when they threw beer bottles at the Safeway employees, and then again when they attacked the officer. They were the ones who made that choice. Not the officer.
Bryson Chaplin has 3 criminal issue that aren't juvenile since 8/18/2014. Andre Damon Thompson has at least 6 since 8/22/2012. A number of their offenses occurred on the same date, so it isn't their first time acting as a criminal team.
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#930760 - 05/27/15 08:13 AM
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So sad.
However it is ridiculous the public chooses to call these two boys and insists on making this about race.
Sister and two brothers all out at 2:00 am in the morning???
I don't know about the rest of you but I would guess most here were home resting up for the next day ahead.
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#930817 - 05/27/15 05:13 PM
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#930819 - 05/27/15 07:03 PM
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#930820 - 05/27/15 07:05 PM
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Sol Duc is a Racist Being Racist.
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#930840 - 05/28/15 06:26 AM
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Registered: 05/28/13
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So sad.
However it is ridiculous the public chooses to call these two boys and insists on making this about race.
Sister and two brothers all out at 2:00 am in the morning???
I don't know about the rest of you but I would guess most here were home resting up for the next day ahead.
Baby's Momma needs a bitch slap.
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#930843 - 05/28/15 08:09 AM
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Registered: 05/03/01
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Loc: McCleary, WA
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Careful Chuck, Rob Roy will label you as a psychopath.
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#930845 - 05/28/15 08:31 AM
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He removed the threat to himself and the victims survived. Mission accomplished.
Folks here possess the same mentality that they despise.
Hypocritical?
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#930846 - 05/28/15 08:56 AM
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Registered: 10/20/10
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Careful Chuck, Rob Roy will label you as a psychopath. If the shoe fits. Cluck is a cop sucker too! Praise the strong arm of the state and pass the ammunition.
Edited by Rob Roy (05/28/15 08:56 AM)
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#930847 - 05/28/15 09:02 AM
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“It’s the law” In a statist society, the laws are a collection of opinions written down by sociopaths who have managed to either win popularity contests or murder their competitors and enforced at gunpoint by thugs in costumes. The implication of the phrase “it’s the law” is that this state of affairs is both necessary and proper, rather than inherently illogical and immoral. Also implied is that the law is somehow sacrosanct and immutable, which is clearly false because the aforementioned sociopaths both frequently alter the laws and routinely disregard the laws they make for everyone else.
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#930850 - 05/28/15 09:17 AM
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Last time I checked we were a nation of laws. It would be interesting to know what you consider an ideal world.
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#930852 - 05/28/15 09:25 AM
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Registered: 05/03/01
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Looks like the Fresh Pince and Rob Roy are sharing a room. Soulmates?
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#930855 - 05/28/15 09:36 AM
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Last time I checked we were a nation of laws. It would be interesting to know what you consider an ideal world. I don't see how rooting for one group of criminals is any better than rooting for another. I personally hope they both lose.
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#930857 - 05/28/15 09:41 AM
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Looks like the Fresh Pince and Rob Roy are sharing a room. Soulmates? Just down the hall from you and cluck most likely. Difference is you are huddled back to back looking for bogeymen with your check list in hand that will allow justify your desire to shoot someone.
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#930858 - 05/28/15 09:44 AM
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Registered: 05/03/01
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Nope. Try again.
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#930859 - 05/28/15 09:45 AM
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Those are biological facts hank, if you want to read the studies that have been done go Google it up. Or just keep your head planted firmly up your ass chanting 'murica. I'm sure you will do the latter but even if you read the studies you wouldn't believe them anyway because this brain damage causes people to reject facts that contradict what the authority told them. There is safety in numbers. The more people you can surround yourself with that have been programmed just like you the safer you feel. It also Removes thinking from the list of requirements you just do what everyone else does. He said the pledge of alegence 2500 times in his first 18 years and stands with his hand over his heart at beginning of sporting events. He is in the club.
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#930861 - 05/28/15 09:51 AM
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Huddling back to back would be a far cry better then cuddling face to face or worse yet ass to pelvis.
Perhaps a quick glimpse above at the mirror on the ceiling would reveal the identity of the real bogeyman.
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#930866 - 05/28/15 10:12 AM
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So there would be a third group of criminals supervising the hiring of these independent contractors?
Sounds like an open door for the same corruption that has just been uncovered in the soccer world.
Also...........Contractors love change orders.
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#930878 - 05/28/15 12:39 PM
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It would be nice to see you actually contribute something useful sometime. Apparently I've become your target of choice as of late. Don't know why. Don't really care. Doesn't matter though because I'd still help you if you really needed it. Nice try at bullying me. It has become a little old, but do what you feel you need to do.
Be a better man.
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#930884 - 05/28/15 01:30 PM
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I know I'm an asshole. One of my better traits.
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#930886 - 05/28/15 01:39 PM
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Only people who were molested as a child attempt to bully others.
Just pointing out the obvious.
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#930890 - 05/28/15 02:13 PM
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Shooting Instructor for hire
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I know I'm an asshole. One of my better traits. That wasn't aimed at you DF. 
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#930891 - 05/28/15 02:19 PM
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I dont think you have to worry Nick... he took it as a compliment 
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#930918 - 05/28/15 06:49 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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#930920 - 05/28/15 07:10 PM
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Keep it coming FP, but I get the feeling you and dogfish would get along better than you think. Peace.
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#930924 - 05/28/15 07:23 PM
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Cluck you are a prime candidate to be a cop because you shoot then aim. Your reading comp is right up there with hanks. Show me where I in any way defended the actions of the shop lifters?
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#930925 - 05/28/15 07:27 PM
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Anyway, getting back on topic. One of the robbery suspects was released to go home from the hospital. Charges will likely be filed after they finish their investigation. Any other robbery suspect would likely be jail now, awaiting their first court apearance.
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#930944 - 05/29/15 07:41 AM
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Now the Olympia Police department is begging for witnesses to come forward and make statements.
That tells me there ain't no video and it's two peoples story against one persons story.
The Olympia Police department has a problem on their hands. Especially since one of the kids ain't talking and has time to collaborate his story with his brothers.
Bring on the folks that will say.......................Should of killed em when they had the chance.
What would inspector Kallihan have done?
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#930945 - 05/29/15 07:45 AM
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Registered: 08/04/99
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One could argue that in the Olympia and Sea-Tac incidents, the police were under trained and the EMTs were over trained.
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#930954 - 05/29/15 10:29 AM
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Anyway, getting back on topic. One of the robbery suspects was released to go home from the hospital. Charges will likely be filed after they finish their investigation. Any other robbery suspect would likely be jail now, awaiting their first court apearance. Yeah, I wondered why the kid is at home recovering when he should be under arrest for shoplifting and recovering in jail. There was another protest downtown last night. Man, there's a lotta' dumfuks around here. If these two black lives mattered, they wouldn't have tried to steal the beer or assault the police officer. From what I saw in the Safeway video, those two black kids don't think their black lives matter. There, I wanted to be sure to accurately include the racial relevance.
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#930955 - 05/29/15 10:30 AM
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One could argue that in the Olympia and Sea-Tac incidents, the police were under trained and the EMTs were over trained. OK, I understand that actually isn't funny, but I did chuckle when I read it.
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#930959 - 05/29/15 10:50 AM
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I'm failing to see how police could have handled either the situation any better without exposing themselves to a significantly higher risk of having either serious harm or possibly death inflicted. Salmo kind of summed up the general idea of how I feel regarding incidents such as these. If you consider Behavioral Analysis for one moment and apply he ABC model (Antecedent, Behavior, Consequence) handling these situations any differently simply would not make sense.
Antecedents are the motivating factors, thoughts, or feelings that drive decisions on choosing behavior. Consequences obviously are outcomes either good or bad that also reinforce decisions on selecting certain behaviors to have. I for one would not like to live in a society where people have the idea to get drunk, choose the behavior to go steal alcohol, and then once caught, choose the behavior to assault other people as a way of avoiding inevitably bad consequences. Should these bad consequences be avoided through assaulting police officers or resisting authority, what kind of a message does that send?
It seems like a lot of people must be okay with this because shifting the burden of responsibility away from the individual to make better choices and onto police to find other ways of handling these situations is how most people seem to feel. It does nothing but further reinforce negative behaviors and shift the risk of harm from the perpetrator onto other innocent bystanders or police who must adapt. Doesn't sound like a fair cross to carry as far as I'm concerned.
The ability of the average person to objectively analyze incidents of violence between citizens and law-enforcement is very concerning to me and where we are failing isn't necessarily with law enforcement every time because it isn't at the root of the problem. Where we are truly failing is with how criminal behavior is shaped to begin with. Poor guidance and parenting towards youngsters, or lack of available community/family supports play a large role in the development of juvenile delinquent behavior. Perhaps more funding for services centered on prevention could help? I simply just don't see how the small Band-Aid of police response can fix a gushing wound.
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#930960 - 05/29/15 10:53 AM
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
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When they are charged, it will likely be under a robbery charge. Shoplifting and a few assault charges may be piled on as well. Why robbery? Force. Once the guy stealing the beer used force, throwing the case of beer at the loss prevention person, he earned his first felony of the night.
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#930981 - 05/29/15 01:00 PM
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"The ability of the average person to objectively analyze incidents of violence between citizens and law-enforcement is very concerning to me and where we are failing isn't necessarily with law enforcement every time because it isn't at the root of the problem. Where we are truly failing is with how criminal behavior is shaped to begin with. Poor guidance and parenting towards youngsters, or lack of available community/family supports play a large role in the development of juvenile delinquent behavior."
Gotta go to my son's little league game. Have a nice weekend.
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#930997 - 05/29/15 02:02 PM
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Registered: 11/10/09
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Judging such incidents from afar is prone to errors. But here goes.
In this case, I think the cop did what was necessary. He apparently was defending himself against two violent a-holes who were attacking him.
But I have had a change of heart about the Pasco incident from a few months ago. I don't think those Pasco cops should've shot the dirt clod thrower afterall. Yeah, that didn't look like a good shoot to me from square one. As soon as he turned to face his pursuers, they dropped him. Sure seemed like they could have done that differently. On the otherhand, we just had a goofball, 2 weeks out of jail for domestic abuse, rob the IQ Credit Union near the mall. A bystander tried to stop him and got stabbed. The bystander is in intensive care. Too bad that one didn't get properly ventilated by a 9mm or maybe a .40 S&W right there on the spot. Pine box and unmarked grave for him. It's definitely a case-by-case deal but when you're the guy on the ground having to make the decision, I imagine it is tough.
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#931003 - 05/29/15 02:43 PM
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Registered: 10/20/10
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Judging such incidents from afar is prone to errors. But here goes.
In this case, I think the cop did what was necessary. He apparently was defending himself against two violent a-holes who were attacking him.
But I have had a change of heart about the Pasco incident from a few months ago. I don't think those Pasco cops should've shot the dirt clod thrower afterall.
But regardless of the case, there is one way to avoid such situations completely: Don't resist arrest! Take your dispute to court!
I even knew that when I was a kid for chrissakes. What if you grew up in Ferguson Ms where it looks like there was a scheme in place to arrest, ticket and fine mostly poor black residents to fund the police and courts. Cops, judges everyone were in on the program. So from the time you were a child you were harassed by the cops at every turn . Just living where you lived made you a suspect. Could your world view be different? Would you be more likely to defend yourself with more vigor? Do you think growing up white in a relatively crime free and safe environment. Where mommy and daddy drove you to your baseball practice and the only time you ever incountered the police , if at all, was the occasional ticket and when they showed up and an accident , in any case they typically had the same world view and therefore more than likely to help you out. Do you think that may shape your world view? Can you Imagine if the patriots had the same view of the Brittish? Freedom is a right you have an obligation to defend and pass down to the next generation. Abdicating that right even slightly is just as appalling to some as resisting the government is to you. You certainly have the right to surrender yourself to the system and take your chances. We know they always get it right. Go take out more than 10k from your bank To buy a car and end up on a govt. list. Show a gun to a friend on a city street and get treated like an active shooter until you are able to convince the police that you are harmlessly exercising a cnsititional right. Some say We are living in a police state now more so than almost anytime in history. They would say This message is in a govt database, just hope that you did not take the money out and show a freind a gun on a city street while typing this because they collect all that info for what reason?
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#931004 - 05/29/15 05:11 PM
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Registered: 01/06/07
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Don't get bummed out. Pres. Hillary will bring the change you're looking for, just be patient. Good times ahead.
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#931005 - 05/29/15 05:29 PM
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
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Loc: McCleary, WA
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Sorry. The people of Ferguson or elsewhere are not special and do not deserve a separate set of rules. There are rules and laws when you live in a community. Conform, somewhat, and you'll be fine. Act like a wild animal, attacking others, authorities, and have no regard for the rule of law, you'll likely win pretty stupid prizes, like a gunshot wound to the chest.
BTW, Olympia is a long fuckin way away from Missouri.
I made mistakes as a kid and cleaned up my act. I hope these young guys learn from their errors in judgement, but if they choose not to, screw 'em. This is their wake up call. Mom should treat it as such as well.
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#931026 - 05/30/15 09:43 AM
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Lord of the Chums
Registered: 03/29/14
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my friends brother, i want to say something to her, not mean, but ive got something telling me not to... so im not.... if it played out the way stated, he was warned more than once... http://www.dailynews.com/general-news/20...ng-beach-police
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#931027 - 05/30/15 11:07 AM
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Registered: 01/31/02
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Sorry. The people of Ferguson or elsewhere are not special and do not deserve a separate set of rules. There are rules and laws when you live in a community. Conform, somewhat, and you'll be fine. If agree that most of think this is the way it should work. Unfortunately, the official report seems to indicate that the residents of Ferguson WERE living under rules and practices that are far different than other communities. They were being systematically targeted for city revenue. If the citizens were somehow able to pull the same thing on the city, I suspect they'd be labeled as "Economic Terrorists". It's hard to believe that any of the Johnny Badasses around here would put up with that BS without verbal or violent pushback. In many of these cases, there is a lot of potential chicken and egg arguments but there is a very clear pattern in societies that says you best keep ENOUGH of the population content and hopeful otherwise violent uprisings are the natural outcome. There are obviously pockets around the world, including the U.S., where the balance is too close to the line.
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#931053 - 05/30/15 09:17 PM
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If agree that most of think this is the way it should work. Unfortunately, the official report seems to indicate that the residents of Ferguson WERE living under rules and practices that are far different than other communities. They were being systematically targeted for city revenue. If the citizens were somehow able to pull the same thing on the city, I suspect they'd be labeled as "Economic Terrorists". It's hard to believe that any of the Johnny Badasses around here would put up with that BS without verbal or violent pushback.
In Ferguson they collect fines... in the rest of america they collect taxes... Different practice... same result
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#931061 - 05/30/15 11:25 PM
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Registered: 05/03/01
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This discussion really is about Olympia, not Fergusson. Again, actions have consequences. Who teaches their kid that it is okay to steal cigars using force, again another robbery which is a felony, then attack the police? Sorry, these are just norms of society that everyone must live by. The young man in Fergusson learned that the hard way.
If someone white commits a robbery, fights with the police, and gets shot, " He deserved it." Someone of color does the same and everybody bends over backwards trying to excuse their actions. Sorry, don't care. Buck up and conform with society. If you set a sequence of events in motion through your own choices and actions, then you own the consequences dealt out to you.
Nobody made those young men steal the first case of beer and that watermelon. Notice, the one on the video was the second case of beer they attempted to steal that night. They should have called it good, but they got greedy and tried to steal another one, the one they threw at the loss prevention officer. Then they fought with the officer. Did you notice the practice swing with the skateboard in the video?
Wake up young men, don't do that. Bad sh!t will happen.
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#931069 - 05/31/15 08:47 AM
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MO has a state income tax on top of the sales tax.
What states and municipalities lack in taxes they make up for in fines. They're continually increasing the fines and searching for new ways to get revenue. Got any red light cameras up there? Is welfare considered income just like unemployment? I go thru 3 red light camera intersections twice every day... I realized that if you dont run a red light you wont get a ticket...
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#931091 - 05/31/15 02:55 PM
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Registered: 05/28/13
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It's super simple as stated earlier. If you're going to commit crimes with no regard, there can be a hefty price to pay. How lucky do you feel?
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#931093 - 05/31/15 03:48 PM
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in the 385 shootings in 2015 by police so far, 80 percent of the "victims" were armed with some sort of weapon... half were white, half were "minorities".. 49 people were unarmed, and 13 were armed with toy guns they pointed at the police... half of the time the police were responding, were due to DV situations, a person threatening to commit suicide, ect... 92 of the victims were diagnosed with mental disorders.. the other half of them, were caught during nondomestic issues, IE burglaries, shoplifting, vandalism, and just the police doing what they are paid to do, drive around on the street patroling....
think of the cops as the Mafia, if you wouldnt fvck with the Mob, why fvck with the cops?
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#931103 - 05/31/15 08:10 PM
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
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Any time an assault occurs and an officer is involved there is a weapon involved. An officer cannot lose, understand that, because if they do their assumption is that you aim to use that weapon against them. If the tide in a physical confrontation reaches a point where they feel they are losing, they will very likely draw their weapon and shoot the aggressor.
Michael Brown had a distinct size advantage, and he used that minutes before when her robbed the store (robbery = theft + force), and again in his altercation with the officer that shot him.
The officer isn't acting as executioner. The officer is defending his or her own life. It is that simple.
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#931104 - 05/31/15 08:19 PM
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Poodle Smolt
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Also, positional asphyxia does happen. Sometimes an overweight person passes away after a prolonged physical confrontation, most of the time when restrained with both hand and ankle cuffs and laying on their stomach. It is a part of training to recognize this possibility. Again, if you fight with the police, you'll likely lose, and if you are fat, positional asphyxia may happen to you.
Therefore, don't resist arrest. Especially if you are fat.
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#931114 - 05/31/15 10:55 PM
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
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You are an imbecile.
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#931129 - 06/01/15 10:41 AM
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#931139 - 06/01/15 01:58 PM
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Registered: 10/20/10
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I saw a warning sign on a dumpster this weekend. Apparently tossing trash in someone else's dumpster in wa. Is punishable by 10 Years in the pokey and a 10k fine. Sounds like a opportunity to set up a trail cam and a treestand and whack some real "dirtbags".
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#931143 - 06/01/15 02:14 PM
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I saw a warning sign on a dumpster this weekend. Apparently tossing trash in someone else's dumpster in wa. Is punishable by 10 Years in the pokey and a 10k fine. Sounds like a opportunity to set up a trail cam and a treestand and whack some real "dirtbags". the only thing these dirtbags need to be wacked with is a book on how to read a warning sign... perhaps cops should wear a warning sign just for dirtbags... "assault me and you may get shot"
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#931146 - 06/01/15 04:46 PM
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what the F'ck does that have to do with cops and dirtbags that can't obey the law?
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#931147 - 06/01/15 05:15 PM
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 10/20/10
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Think it through you seem reasonably intelligent at times.
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#931154 - 06/01/15 08:44 PM
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I could be wrong, but what I think what Mr Groin is getting at, is that the punishment doesn't fit the crime... should a girl be dead because she f'cked up twice?
what he doesn't see in this situation is an unfortunate set of circumstances where a father didn't really know his daughter, what he was doing to her mentally, what was happening with her in her school, or the friends she was hanging out with.
most of the time this $hit all comes down to parenting... a solid set of parents working together to raise their kids right should instill a good sense of right from wrong, and actions and consequences...
this one hits close to home, i grew up 4 blocks from where she jumped, and I went to grade school in that same location before they tore it down and put up the middle school.
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#931210 - 06/02/15 12:54 PM
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Don't attempt to assault anyone, they might have a gun and shoot you... here is a case of another assault that ends in death of the assailant A Boston police officer has shot and killed a Massachusetts man who had been under surveillance by the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force, ABC News has learned. The FBI had been tracking 26-year-old Usaama Rahim for several weeks, and authorities are looking into whether he may have been radicalized by ISIS propaganda online, law enforcement sources said. An officer and an FBI agent approached Rahim a little after 7 a.m. today in the parking lot of a CVS in Roslindale, Massachusetts, police said. The suspect then "came at the officers" with a "military-style knife," police said.
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#931227 - 06/02/15 02:49 PM
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Pretty simple stuff.
Until you get the cuffs on them and have them under control you don't know if they have a weapon or not.
Get on the ground now with your hands behind your back is a command.
Even Bruce Jenner knows that.
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#931231 - 06/02/15 04:04 PM
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Registered: 11/21/07
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Worked pretty well for that guy who stole the horse in CA. Even complying doesn't guarantee that you won't get abused.
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#931234 - 06/02/15 04:41 PM
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I must not be old enough to watch the knife fight video.
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#931240 - 06/02/15 05:07 PM
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Registered: 11/10/09
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Got one of these en route....full size 9mm  I need something cheap and plastic like a Glock, in case I have to dispatch any beer drinkers. Can't have my schweeet CZ confiscated.
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#931371 - 06/04/15 09:22 AM
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FDR predicted the west would go to hell and all the business owners in the 60's predicted the Evergreen State College would be the ruination of the Olympia area.
It has just about come full circle.
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#931433 - 06/04/15 08:06 PM
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Registered: 08/04/99
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So this morning's Olympian says one of the two brothers is paralyzed from the waist down and still has a bullet lodged in his spine. Just checked my sympathy meter. Must be broken 'cuz the needle hasn't moved since Day One. The only thing known for sure about the events surrounding this shooting is... neither of those fellows were faster than a speeding bullet. Seems for certain that taxpayers are going to be supporting these two thugs as long as they live, either in the "big house", the big hospital, on welfare or a settlement. I suppose if the hospitalized one has to sh!t thru his naval and roll his wheelchair to the skate park, you could call it karma. Still to come is justice as determined by the court. You know that's going to be costly!
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#931446 - 06/04/15 11:20 PM
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What do beer stealing skateboarders and a table have in common? They both have legs and can't run.
my step brother was completely paralyzed from the neck down in a skateboard accident. he's not pointing any fingers, though. They've invented a device that allows paraplegic skateboarders to enjoy a full range of movement again. It's a crossed stick and four bits of string.
It's time to make a stand against paraplegics.
One thing wheelchair users can not accuse skate parks of, is being 'Inaccessible.'
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#931448 - 06/05/15 10:36 AM
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#931452 - 06/05/15 10:59 AM
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Picking on a known lesser opponent seems odd but if you must please carry on.
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#931454 - 06/05/15 11:40 AM
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Turns out only the left side of his body is paralyzed. So he's going to be all right. I guess he'll have to change his name to Eileen
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#931462 - 06/05/15 12:19 PM
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Freedom of speech is a great thing.
you can thank your military for it.
Have a nice weekend.
And
You can thank your military for that as well.
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#931463 - 06/05/15 12:38 PM
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Registered: 10/14/99
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This guy is a warning to all skateboarders, skateboards are dangerous and one accident can land you in a wheelchair.
After stealing this beer and assaulting an officer, people will be looking down on him forever. Not because of his terrible reputation but because he'll be sitting in the wheelchair.
Being in a wheelchair isn't all bad, once he steals some rims for that wheelchair I bet it will look pretty pimped out. You see pimps with a cane and a limp all the time. So two gimp legs should get all the fly honeys. No matter how cheap of a place he takes them on a date, it will always be a sit down meal and he never will stand them up.
The store is remodeling their entrance so this can't happen in the future. They are adding two steps.
This guy will never be able to buy beer again. No one will sell it to him because he can't even stand up straight.
On the bright side he will always have a clever answer for that awkward job interview question "What is your greatest weakness?" It's not the wheelchair it's 13 year old jailbait ass. Oh wait that last joke was potentially defamatory, oh well I don't think it will stand up in court.
I'm sometimes critical of our lienent legal system. It seems they let a lot of guilty men walk. Speaking of lienency, don't you think being in a wheelchair is punishment enough? I heard he can't stand it.
His greatest dream was to be on dancing with the Stars, so I sat him down for a frank discussion about why he could never become a ballroom dancer. He just isn't a homosexual.
Now that he got his gangster status he will soon feel the hot breath of a female panting on the back of his neck. That's of course when his mom pushes his wheelchair up the hill to the courthouse.
Good thing the courthouse is wheelchair friendly. They pamper the wheelchairs with a cup of cocoa and a blanket while the useless paralyzed crippled thief looks in from outside.
This guy never has to wonder what to go as for Halloween ever again. Superman.
Now that he is in a wheelchair he is finally getting that marijuana grow room he always wanted. It's going in where his walk in closet used to be.
I'm sure it gets annoying sometimes to be in a wheelchair. Dude goes over to his homies house to skin up a J and everytime someone says "roll it up" he gets taken upstairs.
This guy challenged me to a game of wheelchair basketball but I didn't think it was very fair. I threw his wheelchair up there like five times and there was no way it would go in.
This guy could do a comedy roast to raise money for his defense. He's going to need it. Of course it wouldn't be stand up comedy but it still could be wheelie funny.
Seeing this guy in a wheelchair makes me thank my lucky stars that I'm not in his horrible condition. I'm white.
Judging from reports he is going to have to put on quite the act to beat this in court. Is it tasteless to toast "break a leg" to a man in a wheelchair? What about "blow out a tire"?
I can't believe they are trying to make a martyr out of this wheelchair guy. He is a spineless douche who won't stand up for anything and lets other people push him around.
Maybe I shouldn't be making all these jokes about this wheelchair guy because after all he isn't going to be doing much but sitting around for the rest of his life. He probably will be spending most of his time on the computer, he might even read this thread. After all he still has feelings, well not in his legs he doesn't. More importantly all that rolling around probably gave him good upper body strength and the wheelchair puts his fist right at testicle level. I hope if he does read this post he takes it all in stride. Don't worry fellow, it's all downhill from here. Which normally is a good thing unless you happen to be in a wheelchair. FP should be writing for Daniel Tosh
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#931480 - 06/05/15 04:25 PM
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Someone hack your account? Doesn't sound like FP.
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#931481 - 06/05/15 04:43 PM
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Still like to read how you spent two months off in the woods. You meet up with that bare footed guy living on the Hoh? As far as police violence goes, I think the cop cameras might help. Dash cameras are limited, but they have been used to break a case.
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#931502 - 06/05/15 11:56 PM
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This guy is a warning to all skateboarders, skateboards are dangerous and one accident can land you in a wheelchair.
After stealing this beer and assaulting an officer, people will be looking down on him forever. Not because of his terrible reputation but because he'll be sitting in the wheelchair.
Being in a wheelchair isn't all bad, once he steals some rims for that wheelchair I bet it will look pretty pimped out. You see pimps with a cane and a limp all the time. So two gimp legs should get all the fly honeys. No matter how cheap of a place he takes them on a date, it will always be a sit down meal and he never will stand them up.
The store is remodeling their entrance so this can't happen in the future. They are adding two steps.
This guy will never be able to buy beer again. No one will sell it to him because he can't even stand up straight.
On the bright side he will always have a clever answer for that awkward job interview question "What is your greatest weakness?" It's not the wheelchair it's 13 year old jailbait ass. Oh wait that last joke was potentially defamatory, oh well I don't think it will stand up in court.
I'm sometimes critical of our lienent legal system. It seems they let a lot of guilty men walk. Speaking of lienency, don't you think being in a wheelchair is punishment enough? I heard he can't stand it.
His greatest dream was to be on dancing with the Stars, so I sat him down for a frank discussion about why he could never become a ballroom dancer. He just isn't a homosexual.
Now that he got his gangster status he will soon feel the hot breath of a female panting on the back of his neck. That's of course when his mom pushes his wheelchair up the hill to the courthouse.
Good thing the courthouse is wheelchair friendly. They pamper the wheelchairs with a cup of cocoa and a blanket while the useless paralyzed crippled thief looks in from outside.
This guy never has to wonder what to go as for Halloween ever again. Superman.
Now that he is in a wheelchair he is finally getting that marijuana grow room he always wanted. It's going in where his walk in closet used to be.
I'm sure it gets annoying sometimes to be in a wheelchair. Dude goes over to his homies house to skin up a J and everytime someone says "roll it up" he gets taken upstairs.
This guy challenged me to a game of wheelchair basketball but I didn't think it was very fair. I threw his wheelchair up there like five times and there was no way it would go in.
This guy could do a comedy roast to raise money for his defense. He's going to need it. Of course it wouldn't be stand up comedy but it still could be wheelie funny.
Seeing this guy in a wheelchair makes me thank my lucky stars that I'm not in his horrible condition. I'm white.
Judging from reports he is going to have to put on quite the act to beat this in court. Is it tasteless to toast "break a leg" to a man in a wheelchair? What about "blow out a tire"?
I can't believe they are trying to make a martyr out of this wheelchair guy. He is a spineless douche who won't stand up for anything and lets other people push him around.
Maybe I shouldn't be making all these jokes about this wheelchair guy because after all he isn't going to be doing much but sitting around for the rest of his life. He probably will be spending most of his time on the computer, he might even read this thread. After all he still has feelings, well not in his legs he doesn't. More importantly all that rolling around probably gave him good upper body strength and the wheelchair puts his fist right at testicle level. I hope if he does read this post he takes it all in stride. Don't worry fellow, it's all downhill from here. Which normally is a good thing unless you happen to be in a wheelchair. Post of the year! LMAO!
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#931558 - 06/08/15 11:34 AM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 07/11/04
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Cops are great if you're white. So someone please tell me what the black teens in this video did wrong other then trying to attend a pool party in a white neighborhood! And what scares me most is the asshat cop putting all 230+ lbs on a 14 year old girl in a bikini screaming at her to stop fighting. She's trying to breath and is obviously scared to death. Someone very soon is going to shoot a cop dead and be acquitted for self defense. This is bs. Another case in NJ at Met Life. Cops screaming riot does not make it a riot. But WTF we're all white hear so go cops Asshat cops! p.s. Notice how the white kids can walk freely around filming and not a cop says a word to them. In my mind they should all be thrown in prison for disturbing the piece not the other way around!!!
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#931559 - 06/08/15 11:40 AM
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River Nutrients
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p.s.s Obama has been has set back black relations 100 years. By giving all the jobs to illegals all he has done is ensure that blacks continue to have very difficult time getting out of poverty. But hey libs need their poverty class to stay in power while doing whatever big biz tells them to do. Like flood the labor market with cheap labor educated on some other countries dime!
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#931564 - 06/08/15 12:08 PM
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River Nutrients
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My bad. Poor blacks have never had a better future with more opportunity than right now  .
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#931567 - 06/08/15 12:25 PM
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River Nutrients
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What law was broken in the video? Or is being black in a rich neighborhood now a crime?
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#931569 - 06/08/15 01:13 PM
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I'd be really interested to see your facts that support Obama giving "all the jobs to illegals".
If you were really interested you could look up the unemployment numbers for blacks before and after Obama was elected. Do you intentionally change the subject? The subject of my post was the bogus idea of giving "all the jobs to illegals". Evo can't work because those damn illegals took all the jobs.
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#931584 - 06/08/15 02:49 PM
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Piper
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Somebody smarter than you would be able to figure out why black unemployment has increased and Hispanic unemployment has decreased.
If I had to guess... the price of pot is up, and the price of lawn mowers is down...
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#931586 - 06/08/15 03:23 PM
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Piper
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The price of pot is up because you Washingtonians tax the sh!t out of it. Are you guys buying it in the state stores for $25/gm, or are you still getting it on the street? hmmm, they must be buying in the store... otherwise, unemployment among the blacks wouldn't be so high
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#931606 - 06/08/15 06:47 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
Registered: 03/07/99
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Loc: SE Olympia, WA
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It's no big secret that you're being a dumbass. As if one single factor (black unemployment rate) determines the "Hispanic unemployment" rate.
And since you asked, you can buy legal weed here at "street price" now. But it's obvious you don't need any more of that chit right now.
So you think the number of jobs is infinite and one group of people having a lower unemployment rate wouldn't reflect on the other group of people with a higher unemployment rate? Jaybus. Last time I looked the store price for pot up there was $25/gm. Is that the street price now? The last time I looked, you were still a dumbfuck who doesn't know sh!t about the price of weed or the rate of unemployment.
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#931611 - 06/08/15 07:17 PM
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Lord of the Chums
Registered: 03/29/14
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most places capped it at 16, theres a few stragglers out there...
no its not the street price...
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#931613 - 06/08/15 07:32 PM
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Piper
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most places capped it at 16, theres a few stragglers out there...
no its not the street price... I wonder if you were paid in pot... would that be incentive enough to get a job pulling weeds on a pot farm?
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#931615 - 06/08/15 07:38 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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The last time I looked you were Tinker Bell Troll.
Nothing has changed. drip, drip, drip...............
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She was standin' alone over by the juke box, like she'd something to sell. I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.
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#931625 - 06/08/15 08:52 PM
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Carcass
Registered: 01/09/14
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Loc: Sky River(WA) Clearwater(Id)
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drip, drip, drip...............
Nothing worse than a leaky faucet.....
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#931629 - 06/08/15 09:24 PM
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Carcass
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Frank..... Its not so much the constant .....drip.....drip.....drip....that annoys folks..
Its the rust ring that it leaves behind
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#931637 - 06/08/15 09:50 PM
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Piper
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Bent Over, do you have a special mirror for seeing your rust ring, or do you take a selfie? bent over doesn't leave a rust ring... he leaves skid marks
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