Was kicked of the water by wdfw enforcmet for crossing RR tracks. Good luck

What BS. A permanent HWY side access point needs to be established and provided. A paved lot with a foot traffic overpass. Once the paved lot is full, if you park on the shoulder, its a ticket for safety reasons. The solution is not to restrict further access. The solution is to work with the people paying your salaries. That is unless, you don't like your salaries being funded by license fees? Work with us and we'll work with you. It's a pretty simple concept.

WDFW, I know its a lot to ask, but please wake up.

Hes a young guy!

Hes a young guy!

BS.Good luck,

SZ

Way back when there was guy in WDG who personally funded a position that looked at getting donations of money, easements, and property for access for fishing and hunting. It was called the Citizens Wildlife Heritage Program. Active in the late 70s and I don't know how much longer. Access for the license holders used to be a priority.

Does WDFW Enforcement have authority to police privately owned land? And why would tax/ license fees be used to fund private security?

They have full police powers. Trespassing is illegal.

That's right and in some cases even more so. Fed level powers above and beyond most in-state enforcement agencies. Not really to be trifled with...at all.

Wdfw are the same as state patrol, bnsf are federal marshals.

I was about to agree with you but then I did some fact checking and found that WDFW are not "same as state patrol".

http://wdfw.wa.gov/enforcement/about.html

And with a trespass wouldn't there have to be a complaint reported prior to WDFW responding?

Guys - Fish & Wildlife Agents from each state by and large have massive Federal level powers akin to US Marshalls, FBI, DEA, ATF agents or there abouts. They actually are designed to be that way as they work in remote and dangerous areas and regions, across state lines (poaching rings) and often either work on those other agencies behalf OR assist them hand in hand in the field. A WA State Trooper wishes he had a quarter as much power as a WDFW Field Agent.

This is why it cracks me up when I see idiot "sportsmen" flip em' crap in the field. They really don't understand with whom they are messing with.

Negative

You're so vain.

You probably think this thread is about you.

You're so vain.

Buy the railroad or quit trespassing!!!!!!!!!!

Not vain, just letting people know whats up. And no I wont stop trespassing.

Exactly why they should just do away with the prison system.

Rehabilitation of those not willing to be rehabilitated does not work.

Watch out for trains.

Shhhhhhhhhhh....

Limiting access is the new, quiet trend.

"they" don't want you fishing....

you're just a nuisance, a plebe, a necessary speck needed only for your money.

.....be thankful "they" let you fish at all.

Next time "they" grace you with their presence, lay on your belly and grovel to the man. After all, you are not worthy. You are just another stinking sport fishermen. A leech on the system. A drain on the resources of the Royal Commercials and the Nobel Tribes!

It must suck living on the river and not having access into certain spots... lol

That's why it's good to be me!

Access is at a premium in many of the rivers in my area of the State. Rivers like the Humptulips, the Wynoochee, the Satsop, the Wishkah, the Hoquiam, the North River, and many of the river that flow into the Willapa Bay........in the late 60's, 70's, 80's, there was lots of access to all these rivers....changes in ownership, amount of fisher people, trash, just over all attitude of the "younger generation" have cause many land owners to just "post their lands".

"We have met the enemy, IT IS US"!!!!!!!!!!!

and
http://www.dnr.wa.gov/Publications/aqr_aquatic_land_boundaries.pdf

Concepts about navigability are used
to guide a host of legal relationships
covering maritime law, titles, and rights
of use, to name a few. In this discussion
the terms specifically represent navigability-
for-title.
DNR follows the rule that “navigability
or navigable” means that a body of water
is ‘capable or susceptible’ of navigation
— that is, that the water body has
been, is now, or could be used for the
transport of useful commerce.
Federal law governs ownership title
based on navigability; and it is a question
of law ultimately determined by
federal court. But courts at all levels do
consider title (by navigability) disputes
and questions such as: What does ‘capable
or susceptible’ mean — when did
the lake, stream or river demonstrate
that it was, or could be, navigable? What if a river, lake or stream was
not meandered by the General Land Office surveys? The mere ability to
float a log or canoe does not always meet the ‘transport of useful commerce’
test. So, what types of uses for trade or travel support a finding
of navigability? Considering these questions, navigability status and state
ownership of aquatic lands are decided on a site-by-site basis, and ultimately
may need to be determined by the U.S. Supreme Court.

So this part...

DNR follows the rule that “navigability
or navigable” means that a body of water
is ‘capable or susceptible’ of navigation
— that is, that the water body has
been, is now, or could be used for the
transport of useful commerce.

I take it as "used for transport or Commerce" to mean Fishing Guides trips are commerce and therefore any water and river bed under that water would be under DNR control and designated as Public land. so anchoring a Drift boat and getting out and walking or fishing from a sand bar is perfectly legal....

and of course crossing private land to get to that water is trespassing. But as far as who owns the river and if someone floats to a sand bar and hops out to fish and a land owner comes out to kick someone off the sand bar.... pack sand so to speak

So next time you are fishing there and are told to leave, refuse. You wouldn't want to cross the tracks illegally and are perfectly legal standing in the water. Parking, unless it is posted on the street or you are not in the right of way, should also be legal. As long as you have the will power and are willing to wait for him to leave, I don't think that there is anything he could do. Perhaps you took a canoe over, but your buddy went for drinks. Perhaps you levitated. If no one saw you trespass, then keep your mouth shut and tell him to leave you alone.