This is about the state of the US both socially and economically and the rest of the world. Not about the other weird shat I talk about, which I totally understand is way out there as far as mainstream thinking.

But my point is you have about 30% that see the country and the world are nearing complete social and economic colapse, and those of us that see it have a very clear picture. Yet 60% or more have no idea this is happening, they disregard everything and just act like everything is normal, ready to keep voting themselves all the gifts they desire.

It's obvious that it is completely FUBAR, its not like we are just going through normal generational changes which people generally have a difficult enough time adapting to, or our econemy is evolving and going through the pains of changing.

In my opinion we are dealing with failed social and economic policies. As soon as we started printing fiat money to fund the civil war "credit", and then used more credit to fund every war thereafter, and then eventually ran the entire government, business and every household on credit we became enslaved, no more freedom.

You may be surprised to find that the other 90% (not 60% or 70%) also have a very clear picture, it's just based on reality rather than conspiracy theories and fear.

The problem with the fruitcakes is that they are truly mystified that the great majority of people don't see the absolutely batshit crazy stuff they believe in as "facts"...like hearing the Y'AllQueda clowns trying to figure out why the tens of millions of likeminded whackos didn't show up to help them in Burns.

They concluded it was fear, cowardice, and a concerted effort by the New World Order to keep them all down...failing to realize the far simpler and accurate truth, which is that there are a relatively tiny amount of people who believe what they believe.

It's not because others "can't see" the real picture...it's because they can.

Fish on...

Todd

Please explain how things are just "normal"? Why should we ignore all the facts this time, we have been through lesser collapse's before and recovered but this is different. The world is 250 trillion in debt The protected class's agenda is being poked down the majorities throats wit a stick, if they speak out against it they risk losing everything. We are watching a controlled collapse occurring right now.

Dan says that regardless of everything, he can still go to the store whenever he wants and spend fiat dollars and its always been that way. Will it always be tat way? My bet is that one day soon you will not even have access to your money let alone spend it.

The good thing about being an Apocalyptic Fundamentalist or an Armageddonist is that you can never be proven wrong when you keep saying "it's coming"...even the ones who keep predicting date certains just keep moving the date back when it doesn't happen.

That's what makes those positions easy to hold for the whackos...prove it won't happen! Prove to me Bigfoot/Gnomes/Loch Ness Monster doesn't exist!

It can never ever be done to their satisfaction, so they never have to give up their crazy views.

Also, here's a great indicator that you are a whacko...when your opinions are held by less than 1% of the people, you think that it is actually a vast network of people "in the know" who hold your opinion, that there is another "vast network" of bad guys who also are "in the know", only they are evil, and you use words like "fear" and "sheeple!" to describe the other 99.999% of the people in the world.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. There is absolutely no excuse for being an Actual Flat Earther or an Actual Hollow Earther...those are so easily debunked and fundamentally impossible views for anyone older than four years old to hold that you have to be triple batshit fruit loop crazy to even consider either of those for more than one second.

You forgot the preppers and birthers.

Civilization as we know it is circling the toilet bowl, only a pussy hair from total collapse. However, if you look to history at any point in time, civilizations have always been a pussy hair from collapse. It's just human nature to sh!t where they eat and wreck everything. It's always been like this and it always will. Human civilization is nothing but a bunch of psychotic hairless apes who believe in the most outlandish, ridiculous and unreal things yet as improbable an event as human civilization is, it has gone on for thousands of years. Get used to it.

Should have put mine under a mattress, have lost about 12% on the 401K in the last couple of months.

Invest it in Rib-Eyes and vintage vino. Then call me over for the party.

This is why we invent Sky Fairies to blame it on or save us from it...so we don't have to either fix it or take the blame for it.

Fish on...

Todd

Fixed

Could be but what is the average shmuck gonna do?

I have been watching X-file reruns. Rich reminds a bit of Mulder. He knows the Truth is out there and he is going to keep looking if it kills him.

The only problem with that is it isn't real.

When you have a transgender freak like Bruce Jenner receive woman of the year you know that the decline of the empire is upon you. It's an insult to real women that have accomplished something that benefits others. Instead woman of the year is nothing more than an absolutely disgusting display of self importance and that being a fu.cked up head case is something to celebrate rather than remedy. We give Iran nuclear clearance while trying to demonize lawful 2A supporters. And the weak anti religious fuc.ktards that hate Christianity but support Islam is further proof that a not so vocal contingent is trying to destroy this country from inside. A socialist has a real chance at becoming POTUS and 32 ounce sodas are illegal...

Rich G----You aren't crazy it's just that the paradigm has shifted so far into fantasy land that nothing is as it should be.

Rioting and looting and arson are acceptable if you're black. As is overt racism and discrimination and general thuggery. Pointing out that fact though IS racist.

Sky fairies have been around as long as man has walked the earf It's a fact not often mentioned by the folks who spend so much time talking about something they claim doesn't exist.

Damn. Some pretty good baits in the water now.

That was a serious diss on those whackos, I'm sure they thought there would be thousands joining them. That was pure Gold. If they were smart they should have not set up in Oregon......DUH!

Put it in a high grade safe with good fire protection.

Dibs on the Porterhouse's.

How come this thread is not 4 stars already?

If you want to be an Eeyore, go right ahead - some day you'll be right.

The economy will crash, a comet will smoke our asses, the volcano under Yellowstone will erupt and block the sun and we'll die of starvation, we'll warm up the globe and some voodoo hemorrhagic fever will sweep across the planet, or maybe an ice age will set in...........some serious sh!t is bound to happen some day.

But just shut the fu.ck up about it already. You don't have the smarts or the knowledge to predict anything, and neither do any of us. But some of us don't spend all f'n day wallowing around in doom and gloom. If sh!t goes sideways and my fiat currency is no longer considered legal tender, then I'll find another way to feed myself and find shelter. If a comet strikes, I'll die. But I'll be damned if I'm going to spend my lifer acting like it's going to happen tomorrow.

You go right ahead if that's what you want to do, Eeyore. I'm just sick of hearing about it, and then finding the world is pretty much the same year after year after year.

I talked to a cop I know who is an Oathkeeper regarding the Burns goings on. He told me that the Idaho 3%ers, Pacific Patriot Network and oath keepers who showed up said it was not what they thought so they left. It appeared to them that the incident had real actors as well as federal agents imbeded within the Melica. They felt that the incident was fabricated in order to "flush out" patriots, and other liberty movement individuals so they could be identified as domestic terrorists.

This was the impression of the groups and individuals who showed up and then quickly left. These groups have been telling others not to go to Burns but that there is an education movement being headed in Benton County which the constitutional sheriff in that county is helping facilitate under his protection.

I understand what these groups are trying to do but the truth is its way too late. Better for them to wait for the collapse, try to survive and then regroup wity their message after things start to stabilize. At that point things will be exposed for what they truely are, the protected class will be gone, and the people left will be ready to get on with their lives in a normal republic.

Maybe we can't really change the course or big picture, but truely why would you want to. We have gone insane as a nation, it needs to be scrapped and the reboot button hit. Look at where we are today, I am ashamed to turn this over to our kids and embarrassed to call myself an American. We live in a nation which stands up for the evil/immoral/dishonest and surpress's the good/kind and strong.

I don't know about all of that, but I think the Burns refuge occupation certainly did attract some of the lower IQ type of so-called patriots who were not actors. They didn't think of the consequences at all which is kind of a basic bitch thing to do.

Chuck, what livin are you talking about? Do you have a woodstove and a good dry wood supply? Do you have and extra couple months medications saved up in case the supply is disrupted? Do you have the means to protect yourself and the mental preparedness to do so? Do you have a few bags of beans and rice saved up so you won't starve if its unsafe to leave your house for a month or more? Do you have any means of communication if the grid goes down? Have you done anything to make yourself independent? Are you just going to keep "living your life" until that life is no longer sustainable and then just throw in the towel? Not me I want to survive and thrive.

You could have stopped right there and saved your time from typing...it was all going to be total bullschit from there on out.

Fish on...

Todd

OK Todd, what authority do you speak from? We're you a cop, do you truely know and understand the workings of the criminal justice system? I know you are an attorney and have pledged your allegiance to Britian and are under control of the Queen "British Accreditation Regency, (BAR ASSOCIATION)". Do you know that the 13th amendment to the constitution made it illegal for attorneys to be elected or to hold public office? The 13th amendment no longer exists. What do you think the intention of not allowing attorneys to serve in public office was?

The current13th amendment which abolishes slavery was actually the 14th. The original 13th was removed during the civil war.

Considering that's the closest to heterosexual sex you've ever gotten we can overlook the fact the your Aunt Betty and Uncle Mary are still self conscious around you.

Way too much bait in the water.....

That would not surprise me, nor should it surprise anyone that is familiar with the case of Iva Toguri D'Aquino, Tokyo Rose.

I looked up the "Tokyo Rose", makes you wonder why they had such a hardonfor her? What did she do or who did she piss off...

It ain't crazy to be prepared, confident and unafraid Chuck, its comman sense. You never know what could happen and why would you want to rely on someone else, in my opinion it's much better to live and die by your own hand. Take responsibility for your own life, your own freedom, your own health, your own actions. Don't put that weight and responsibility on someone else's shoulders because they won't care about you and your family as much as you do....

Chicken Little?