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#957799 - 05/24/16 09:47 PM Re: First it was the coho, now it's the crabs... [Re: Dan S.]
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Originally Posted By: Dan S.
That's quite an idiot contest Jerry and RvW have going on here.

No clear leader as of yet.


You disagree with my statement or just being your usual ankle biting bitch?
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#957801 - 05/24/16 10:30 PM Re: First it was the coho, now it's the crabs... [Re: eyeFISH]
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Another Times Article

The question is not if crabs can evolve for ultra hostile environments. They can - see Vent / Hoff / Yeti Crabs. The question is if they can do it fast enough and why should they have to? An example in some random evolution hope: within the past 70 years, small Anole lizards in the South East US are developing longer legs to deal with introduced Fire Ants. Nature can and will find a way to survive, but it probably shouldn't have to and definitely not within our human time table. We'll probably all be eating Soylent Green by 2100. Or dead. I'll be long gone, but your great grand children should love their future good times!
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#957802 - 05/25/16 05:19 AM Re: First it was the coho, now it's the crabs... [Re: eyeFISH]
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“It’s not unreasonable to assume, for example, that they might move, that some form of rapid evolution will occur, that they may become somewhat more robust,” said Andre Punt, a University of Washington professor
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#957803 - 05/25/16 06:55 AM Re: First it was the coho, now it's the crabs... [Re: eyeFISH]
Jason Beezuz Offline
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Good read here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chitin

I will say I spoke too soon. I thought marine Arthropoda had exoskeletons made of calcite but it is chitin. Calcite leads to limestone which is very sensative to PH. Chitin apparently is different and is much more complex so perhaps there is room for adaptations there.
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#957804 - 05/25/16 07:51 AM Re: First it was the coho, now it's the crabs... [Re: Swifty27]
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Originally Posted By: Swifty27
Don't worry. I'll bet you'll always be able to catch crabs in Aberdeen.





laugh
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#957806 - 05/25/16 08:00 AM Re: First it was the coho, now it's the crabs... [Re: eyeFISH]
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What WDFW needs are more wool stocking hat wearing biologists.

Such a clown show.

How about they get someone in there that can strike deals with other groups and get things done?

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#957808 - 05/25/16 08:09 AM Re: First it was the coho, now it's the crabs... [Re: RowVsWade]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
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Originally Posted By: RowVsWade
Originally Posted By: Dan S.
That's quite an idiot contest Jerry and RvW have going on here.

No clear leader as of yet.


You disagree with my statement or just being your usual ankle biting bitch?


Shut up, stupid, before you take the lead.
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#957809 - 05/25/16 08:14 AM Re: First it was the coho, now it's the crabs... [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 17149
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
“It’s not unreasonable to assume, for example, that they might move, that some form of rapid evolution will occur, that they may become somewhat more robust,” said Andre Punt, a University of Washington professor





I don't trust liberal college professors
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#957817 - 05/25/16 10:41 AM Re: First it was the coho, now it's the crabs... [Re: Dan S.]
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Registered: 01/17/04
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What? Dan is not a Geoduck fan, lol.

Something in the system certainly is effecting the clams and oysters in the South Sound. The kelp forest at the lower end of Squaxin Island is a remnant of it's former self as well.
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#957820 - 05/25/16 11:05 AM Re: First it was the coho, now it's the crabs... [Re: slabhunter]
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Registered: 09/17/04
Posts: 594
Loc: Seattle
Ocean acidification is a problem that impacts all fisheries. Northwest marine waters are particularly vulnerable because they are more acidic than many areas because of ocean currents. Squid and pteropods are two groups that will likely suffer. Both are important food sources for salmon and steelhead. For those with some time and interest the link below is a paper that explores the effects of OA on fisheries in the Northeast Pacific.

OA in the Northeast Pacific

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#957827 - 05/25/16 12:11 PM Re: First it was the coho, now it's the crabs... [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Most scientist-types say it was the SMOD* that got the Dinos. A BFR* 6 miles across that hit the Yucatan with such force it blotted out the Sun for a couple-three-or-so years and rained iridium pellets all over the globe.

*SMOD - Sweet Meteor Of Death
*BFR - Big F'n Rock


Sweet baby jesus! Check out the brains on Hank. wink

My reply to RvW "might" have been a tinsy bit sarcastic......but thanks for letting everyone else know why there are no Velociraptors running around eating people on the Skok these days.

Actually, one could only wish for such a thing........
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