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#96668 - 09/25/00 10:18 AM your favorite brine for smoking?
thisbudsforu Offline
Fry

Registered: 09/20/00
Posts: 38
Loc: yuppieville usa (Kirkland)
just wonderin what some your favorite brine recipes are. or where i can go to get new recipes. thanks

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#96669 - 09/25/00 11:42 AM Re: your favorite brine for smoking?
Sky-Guy Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 3177
Loc: Woodinmilf
Buds,

I usually use a dry brining technique. Simply smear/rub 2 parts salt and 1 part sugar all over,amount depends on fish size, then rinse and smoke 12 hours later. Turns out Great!

For a wet brine, I use 1 1/2 cups salt and 1 cup sugar for each gallon of water. Soak for 12 hours, no longer.

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#96670 - 09/25/00 12:18 PM Re: your favorite brine for smoking?
scottguides Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 09/19/00
Posts: 236
Loc: elma
i also use a dry brine cosisting of a layer of brown sugar,and then cover with rock salt leave it on for about 4 hours rinse lightly,let it dry and then smoke it up

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#96671 - 09/25/00 02:27 PM Re: your favorite brine for smoking?
thisbudsforu Offline
Fry

Registered: 09/20/00
Posts: 38
Loc: yuppieville usa (Kirkland)
im doin some big time brine testing, i got about 4 different brines goin now, 2 dry and 2 wet. my smokers gonna be workin overtime tonight!

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#96672 - 09/25/00 03:12 PM Re: your favorite brine for smoking?
STRIKE ZONE Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 08/09/00
Posts: 4461
Loc: Hobart,Wa U.S.A
Bud's,Try one pound of dark brown sugar to 1/8 cup of kosher salt,the stuff for margerettas.Blend together layer on fish fillets,put in fridge for twelve hours.Take fish out of brine,Stir left over juice and sugar,salt till disolved.Put fish back in brine for another twelve hours' with skin side up this time.Take out and rinse.Smoke with alder chip's.Good luck, STRIKE ZONE

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#96673 - 09/25/00 04:07 PM Re: your favorite brine for smoking?
GutZ Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 1392
Loc: Ballard, Washington
ThisBuds4U;
There is a really good thread with about 10 recipes in it (including mine!) Search "smoking salmon tips" it is from 6/27/2000.
Smoke It!
Fishguts

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#96674 - 09/25/00 05:47 PM Re: your favorite brine for smoking?
R Ridgeway Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 12/04/99
Posts: 276
Loc: seattle
I've used a brine variation from the Little/Big Chief booklet for the past 15 years. Everyone I give it to says it's "the best ever". It's not very salty. 2 cups soy sauce, 1 cup dry white wine, 1 cup water, 1/3 cup brown sugar (plus a pinch), 1/4 cup pickling salt (a fine non-iodized salt-in all stores), 1/2 teaspoon each of pepper, onion powder, garlic powder & tabasco. Let mixture stand at least 4 hours at room temp. prior to putting salmon/steelhead in brine. I use paper toweling strips to separate fleshy sides from touching anything(the brine will not take-in properly where fish flesh touches sides of container/other salmon pieces, etc) I brine whole sides of 4-6 lb. salmon (brining takes about 20 hours for a whole side in refrig. - less for pieces) and it will just fit in my Big Chief smoker. Vacuum pack with my FoodSaver and they look professional...taste even better with only natural preservatives. The sides/pieces freeze great and retain at least 95% of their quality for at least 6 months. When I tell gift recipients I caught it, smoked it & packed it...their jaws drop. It costs a little more but I feel well worth the results. Good luck.

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#96675 - 09/25/00 05:58 PM Re: your favorite brine for smoking?
Bruce(Coho@TheRefuge) Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 243
Loc: Bothell, WA, USA
My favorite brine:
1/2 gallon water
1/2 cup pickling salt
1 1/2 cup light brown sugar
3 cloves
3 cloves of garlic (crushed)
5 dried red peppers
3 bay leaves
1/2 medium onion, cut in rings
12 pepper corns
You can also add:
Soy sauce (careful, can get too salty quick)
Honey
Fresh ginger
Lemon zest
Orange zest
Brandy or J.D.

Recipe can be doubled.

Bring to a boil then cool.
Cut fish in chunks not more than 1 1/2 inch thick.
Soak for 2 to 3 days.(refridgerated)
Remove from brine and pat dry with paper towels.
Put on preoiled racks.
Let air dry until cuticle(shiny glaze)forms.
Smoke with cherrywood. If "Little Chief" 3 pans then 12 hours just heat. Check and make sure its not drying out to much. If the product is too soft for your liking; finish in a 200 decree oven until desired firmness is reached.

The basic recipe is what I use 90% of the time.(It even works on Chums; not a black one though) And is outstanding with sturgeon. It has served me well for 25+ years.

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#96676 - 09/25/00 06:42 PM Re: your favorite brine for smoking?
Hammer Bob Offline
Fry

Registered: 09/03/00
Posts: 33
Loc: Yolo, Ca. USA
R. Ridgeway, try that same receipe but substitute the soy with 1/2 soy + 1/2 Yoshidas gourmet sauce. Then add 1/2 tsp dry mustard. I think you'll like it! I have found brining the fish 24-48 hrs works great.

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#96677 - 09/25/00 06:58 PM Re: your favorite brine for smoking?
Hairball Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 11/13/99
Posts: 116
Loc: Lynnwood
Thanks for your brine Bruce; I got over 30lbs of king fillet to smoke. I tried four different brines and yours is excellent.

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#96678 - 09/25/00 08:07 PM Re: your favorite brine for smoking?
JohnnyCoho Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 01/22/00
Posts: 158
Loc: Rockport,WA,USA
Hey Bud WaaaaaSuuuup!?!??!??! Lots of good recipes here guys!!! Here's one more for Ya Bud if your not sick of smoked salmon yet. This ones my grandfathers recipe; (One of the old time Skagit river guides)
-2 cups brown sugar
-1/3 cup salt
-2 tbsp. garlic salt
-2 tbsp. onion salt
-2 tbsp. celery salt
-2 tbsp. dry mustard
-3 tbsp. coarse ground black pepper
Mix ingrediants together (Dry Brine) Use salmon thats been frozen and thawed out as this will break down the enzimes in the fish and help the brine take better. Cover fish with brine and refrig. for 12 hours. If you like your salmon salty leave brine on when smoking, just remove crust of brine. If not rinse and pat dry with paper towels. Then smoke until done. J---<")(\(\(\)>{
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#96679 - 09/27/00 08:46 AM Re: your favorite brine for smoking?
Doug Kelly Offline
Spawner

Registered: 02/22/00
Posts: 557
Loc: Bothell WA
i see a lot of brines with brown sugar and soy in them, one of my favorites is yosheta as already pre mixed being as though thats the main ingredients in yosheta mix a little white wine garlic fresh or the stuff that comes in the little jars you can add just about any thing to your likeing soak for at least 1 day and as many as 3or 4 let stand in open air till for a couple hours then smoke i prefer alder, refridgerate till cool then dig in and enjoy

[This message has been edited by DOUG KELLY (edited 09-27-2000).]

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#96680 - 09/27/00 09:30 AM Re: your favorite brine for smoking?
Beezer Offline
Spawner

Registered: 06/09/99
Posts: 642
Loc: Monroe WA
I agree with R Ridgeway about the deluxe salmon brine from the Little Chief recipe book. The only thing I do different is to glaze the pieces with maple syrup just before you put it in the smoker.

Good Luck
Beezer

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#96681 - 09/27/00 09:54 AM Re: your favorite brine for smoking?
B-RUN STEELY Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 3254
Loc: IDAHO
You guys are making me hungry..
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#96682 - 09/27/00 10:11 AM Re: your favorite brine for smoking?
B-RUN STEELY Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 3254
Loc: IDAHO
O.K, I have one that we have been working with for a couple of years that started out as a white fish recipe and we have found that it works great on other fish. It goes like this. In a large tupperware container mix-

1> pint kikioman soy sauce
2> 3/4 cup brown suger
3> 3 oz real lemon juice
4> garlic powder ( some)
5> 1/4 cup salt
6> 1 can frozen apple juice- 3 cans water
the apple juice is the key here.

soak in brine at least over night. Then, allow to dry on the racks for at least a couple of hours before you put it in the
smoker. I use a little chief, and alder wood seems best. Very tasty.. I use two pans of chips right away and another about
half way thru. Enjoy!!
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#96683 - 09/27/00 05:19 PM Re: your favorite brine for smoking?
Beezer Offline
Spawner

Registered: 06/09/99
Posts: 642
Loc: Monroe WA
Let us not forget the most important ingredient. Good quality fish! If you put in some humpy that has been out in the sun all day or freezer burn meat or some post spawn chum (errrg), soooorrry. It comes down to this; you get what you start with. If you want to try to smoke bad stuff you’ll end up with bad stuff. All the pacific salmonids smoke well if they are prepared properly. Immature chinook (blackmouth) is excellent cuz they are high in oil content from feeding on candlefish. Coho are excellent cuz everybody loves red meat. Humpys are good if you ice them after catching. I think chum need some coloring and additives like soy sauce and brown sugar etc however they have more than enough natural fat/oil to make good smoke if not too spawned out. A different species, Black cod (sablefish), is an excellent presentation to the table on any of the above recipes. Black cod has enough oil in it even though it has white meat. Dry brines/wet brines all work. Just don’t kill a fish and say "it’ll smoke" then throw it in the ditch on the way home.

Beezer

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