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#969436 - 12/06/16 06:14 PM Ferry boat and recreational boat collide
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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I thought this was already posted here, but can't find it if it was...this was on the Pt. Defiance to Vashon run yesterday.



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#969439 - 12/06/16 07:11 PM Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide [Re: Todd]
bushbear Offline
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Registered: 08/26/02
Posts: 4709
Loc: Sequim
Lucky it wasn't worse. Hope some paper can be hung on the skipper.

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#969442 - 12/06/16 07:33 PM Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide [Re: bushbear]
DrifterWA Offline
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I saw this on the news last night....didn't have the vocabulary, vocabulary added to the video....

Originally Posted By: bushbear
Lucky it wasn't worse. Hope some paper can be hung on the skipper.


I'll bet that person needed "more than roll of paper", to clean themselves up....wow................

I know the paper you were talking about.......
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#969445 - 12/06/16 08:26 PM Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide [Re: Todd]
Speyguy Offline
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Registered: 07/09/01
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Loc: Bellingham
You could'nt manufacture a better name of boat for a news story....Pretty sure he had an old cassette tape of "Asleep at the wheel" playin route 66...ha

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#969447 - 12/06/16 09:18 PM Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide [Re: Todd]
fishbadger Offline
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Loc: Gig Harbor, WA
I know that guy, can't wait to ask WTF he was doing, or maybe he was getting done!

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#969486 - 12/07/16 04:04 PM Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide [Re: Todd]
GodLovesUgly Offline
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Rumors I've seen flying are he was down below in the head taking a sh!t.
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#969492 - 12/07/16 04:31 PM Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide [Re: Todd]
Todd Offline
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That would be a good time to take the boat out of gear if there is no one above decks to drive, I think.

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#969503 - 12/07/16 06:30 PM Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide [Re: Todd]
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The yacht clearly had the right of way. I suspect this will not end well for the ferry captain.
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#969505 - 12/07/16 07:47 PM Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide [Re: Todd]
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^^^There is the law of tonnage^^^
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#969506 - 12/07/16 08:11 PM Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide [Re: Todd]
Todd Offline
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I think there are about six applicable rules, and they are quite in conflict.

Plus, at the end if the day, it's just stupid to put your boat on auto pilot and go below deck and drop a deuce with no one else onboard.

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#969507 - 12/07/16 09:42 PM Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide [Re: Todd]
Larry B Offline
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Registered: 10/22/09
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Loc: University Place and Whidbey I...
The Flying Deuceman? Sounds vaguely familiar....

Truly stupid and avoidable.
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#969508 - 12/07/16 10:06 PM Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide [Re: Todd]
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I believe the coast guard calls that "failure to maintain a proper lookout." It's a good catch-all for general dumbfuckery.
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#969509 - 12/07/16 10:09 PM Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide [Re: ColeyG]
Todd Offline
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Originally Posted By: ColeyG
I believe the coast guard calls that "failure to maintain a proper lookout." It's a good catch-all for general dumbfuckery.


Yes. This.

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#969514 - 12/08/16 12:08 AM Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide [Re: Todd]
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Loc: Snohomish, WA
Damn - what an idiot. Glad he's ok to carry on with his life as an idiot.

So what are the laws on both sides here? I can't possibly imagine that the Ferry Captain would be in trouble if the guy really had it on auto pilot whilst shatting?

Lastly, just how manueverable COULD a ferry actually be? Serious question. What is the protocol for the Ferry Captain in this case? Just run a sport boat over OR a hard wheel crank and slam it in reverse? What about the people and cars onboard?

If it were me, I'd just run em' over. It thins the herd and doesn't spill my passengers drinks.
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#969632 - 12/10/16 01:46 PM Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide [Re: Todd]
Old Kelpie Offline
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Registered: 06/25/15
Posts: 28
Loc: Lower Columbia
Incredible! Maybe it was all that fog or ruff seas? Glad no one was injured or loss of a vessel.

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#969660 - 12/11/16 03:46 PM Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide [Re: Todd]
GoldDigger Offline
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Registered: 02/02/15
Posts: 320
Not a boater..what is the law in this case?

Seems reasonable the little guy needs to get out of the way of the larger,
less maneuverable boat. But then, common sense is not always evident in laws.

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#969661 - 12/11/16 03:51 PM Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide [Re: Todd]
ned Offline
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Registered: 06/09/07
Posts: 666
Loc: MA 5, 9, 10
May well be the yachts mistake....but you'd think the ferry would have seen this guy 2 miles out from the wheelhouse, and with dual radar, and 3 in the wheelhouse. We all yield at some time, regardless of who's legally correct.
That, plus I'm just pissed at the WSF arrogance and ripping off my tax money in OT, and the 28% raise they get this year (if legislation approves it.)

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#969673 - 12/11/16 11:55 PM Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide [Re: GoldDigger]
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Rule 15 - Crossing Situation

(a) When two power-driven vessels are crossing so as to involve risk of collision, the vessel which has the other on her own starboard side shall keep out of the way and shall, if the circumstances of the case admit, avoid crossing ahead of the other vessel.


Every vessel which is directed to keep out of the way of another vessel shall, so far as possible, take early and substantial action to keep well clear.

Rule 17- Action by Stand-on Vessel

(a) (i) Where one of two vessels is to keep out of the way, the other shall keep her course and speed.
(ii) The latter vessel may, however, take action to avoid collision by her maneuver alone, as soon as it becomes apparent to her that the vessel required to keep out of the way is not taking appropriate action in compliance with these Rules.

(b) When, from any cause, the vessel required to keep her course and speed finds herself so close that collision cannot be avoided by the action of the give-way vessel alone, she shall take such action as will best aid to avoid collision.

(c) A power-driven vessel which takes action in a crossing situation in accordance with Rule 17(a)(ii) to avoid collision with another power-driven vessel shall, if the circumstances of the case admit, not alter course to port for a vessel on her own port side.

(d) This Rule does not relieve the give-way vessel of her obligation to keep out of the way

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#969689 - 12/12/16 11:53 AM Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide [Re: Todd]
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Posts: 1132
Loc: Kirkland
To Todd's point about violations, believe the yacht broke two. Failure to maintain lookout and violation of 33 cfr 165.1317 (violation of security zones established for passenger ferries). The ferry skipper will likely be held accountable as well for not taking proper actions to avoid collision. The ferries can fall under the "restricted in their ability to maneuver" category if they are in a narrow channel giving them the right of way. This does not appear to be the case in this incident. Be interesting to know how it plays out. Glad no one was hurt.

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#969708 - 12/12/16 02:18 PM Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide [Re: Todd]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
That full reverse looked like it was either right at or right after the moment of impact...a few degrees course change to the starboard and that yacht would have cruised right off the bow and no collision.

Plenty of fault to go around here, I think...but really, no matter how it works out legally, the yacht skipper really screwed the pooch on this one, and is lucky his boat didn't sink and he didn't drown.

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